Mr Brugman is guilty of bringing horse racing into disrepute?.

My take on this entire fiasco is that was it because "Brugman " said it (considering whom he represents)

Eg

Or if the Clan was to have a winner (ok I am dreaming) and Laff says to Bad Company "what's next for the horse, Kimberley"?
and BC replies " no way we would run a horse in that shit hole"

Would we receive an official press release and be in front of an enquiry board

Wish we were famous or feared or respected???

Lol

Craig Eudey Wrote:

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> Did either of them break down? I think the average
> pen reading in winter is lower at Clairwood than
> Scottsville. I am sure this is due to the higher
> clay content at Clairwood. As I said, Enos has
> done a great job there. Jack Dash/Pirates, how
> many times have you been to Scottsville in the
> last year or two?

Probably the same amount of times as what there have been horses winning on the outside up the straight <

What about the many times trainers criticize the Handicappers or the program? Are they then bringing Racing into disrepute too, or a poor ride from a Jockey? That rule is protectionist and archaic

As far as GC I am sure(my opinion only as have not spoken to anyone) is concerened,they have accepted Derek's apology and that is that. If any other comments like that are made I am sure then they will take it further. By apologising He either realises he was wrong or was made to by his employers who must have thought his comment was wrong. I am sure we will see plenty of Mr Jooste's horses running there over the season and winning races.

I can't see what the fuss is about and imo GC over-reacted; Mr Brugmann voiced an opinion (I watched the replays this morning and I'm pretty sure he said something like 'I THINK it is a goat track.....' ; last time I looked it was still a free country and one is allowed to express an opinion?

So IN MY OPINION, I think GC used the opportunity to deflect attention from the debacle on Sunday

Frodo, cannot remember hearing "think" but could have been there. If it was only an opinion, why did he apologize?

2cents Wrote:

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> Craig Eudey Wrote:
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> > Did either of them break down? I think the
> average
> > pen reading in winter is lower at Clairwood
> than
> > Scottsville. I am sure this is due to the
> higher
> > clay content at Clairwood. As I said, Enos has
> > done a great job there. Jack Dash/Pirates, how
> > many times have you been to Scottsville in the
> > last year or two?
>
> Probably the same amount of times as what there
> have been horses winning on the outside up the
> straight <

Been a long time. I prefer punting races at Scotsville to Clairwood, but then I hardly ever back favourites. My point was only that Dean running champions at Scotsville and Durbanville doesn't necessarily make it the gospel on how to plan a season and Jooste's man have every right to choose something else.

He should be allowed to voice that opinion, and make funny or stupid remarks too. Instead of apologizing, he should have told them to buy new nappies. For #$%^& sake, a press release???

Dont worry Craig, there's a tiny chance that they've been pee'd off and will leave your centre completely free of any competition whatsoever.

Craig Eudey Wrote:

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> Frodo, cannot remember hearing "think" but could
> have been there. If it was only an opinion, why
> did he apologize?


I don't really want to get into something that does not concern me (what GC and it's board do or not do have no effect on me personally) board), but for the sake of argument, I was not aware of an apology - and even if there was an apology, did he specifically state that he apologizes for calling S a goat track and retracted that remark, or did he just apologize for his remark causing some embarassment?

For calling it a goat track as far as I am aware. Retracted the remark. GC were not embarassed by the remark. Annoyed I would think but not embarassed. Only people who have not been to Scottsville lately and seen the on going improvement under Enos would think of calling it a goat ttrack and believe that rubbish themselves!:X

Greyville must be really shyte cos Rabiya broke down there : ... How many horses run at Scottsville a year ? And how many suffer irrepairable damage ? Some scientific fact to support this k@k emotional SUBJECTIVE statements ..... :X

more horses broke down at Greyville than Scottsville ....Big City Life and Rabiya in the biggest racing events of the year, the JULY, must spring to mind and nobody dare to call Greyville a goattrack or graveyard:S
Uncalled for to say Scottsville that bad track, must be the most improved track in recent years ,compliments to the trackmanager

I remember Justin Snaith a few years ago saying he doesnt race his horse's at
Durbanville
Wow things do change!