Weinsteens attitude towards RA Members>:D

at long as you don't look like a hobbo then don't see why you cannie wear shorts...

Greg, where do you stop? One persons smart shorts are anothers with holes and they think they are smart.

Remember RA income from membership is r900k. RA income from a portion of nomination and entry fee collected by Phumelela is over R11 million. So all you Clanners that are fed up with RA and cancelling your memberships, it does not really matter to RA because they are still taking your money every time you nominate and accept your horses. Somehow I don't think Larry will be offering to refund that money!

Pixie Wrote:

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> Remember RA income from membership is r900k. RA
> income from a portion of nomination and entry fee
> collected by Phumelela is over R11 million. So all
> you Clanners that are fed up with RA and
> cancelling your memberships, it does not really
> matter to RA because they are still taking your
> money every time you nominate and accept your
> horses. Somehow I don't think Larry will be
> offering to refund that money!

you cant seriously believe that the RA should refund nom fees to RA members??

remember in the old days seeing the rich farmers coming to the course with the short safari suites..and oh dont forget the comb tucked away in the socks
lol

Titch Wrote:

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> Pixie Wrote:
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> > Remember RA income from membership is r900k. RA
> > income from a portion of nomination and entry
> fee
> > collected by Phumelela is over R11 million. So
> all
> > you Clanners that are fed up with RA and
> > cancelling your memberships, it does not really
> > matter to RA because they are still taking your
> > money every time you nominate and accept your
> > horses. Somehow I don't think Larry will be
> > offering to refund that money!
>
> you cant seriously believe that the RA should
> refund nom fees to RA members??


The question should rather be 'why does the RA get ANY money from the noms and acceptances?'

RA sold out to the operators for the noms money. Instead of looking after owners interests such as track conditions and stake money, they bark at some poor owner who rocked up at the parade ring without coat and tails

just a question . if you are not an R A memeber or do not have another method of identifying you as a owner / part owner or syndicate member how do u get to go in to the parade ring when your horse is running on racedays

monty Wrote:

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> just a question . if you are not an R A memeber
> or do not have another method of identifying you
> as a owner / part owner or syndicate member how
> do u get to go in to the parade ring when your
> horse is running on racedays

RA membership does not have anything to do with entry to the parade ring - it's a misconception that they have done nothing to correct.

NHA is introducing NHA badges that will get you into the parade ring - in the past anyone could just walk in :

Logistically though a bit of a 'process' - if you have guests on the day, you would need to 'arrange for access' for your guests prior to race day or at a 'day-kiosk' at the track - not sure if they then issue 'guest badges' or a slip of paper or how it will work :S

monty Wrote:

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> just a question . if you are not an R A memeber
> or do not have another method of identifying you
> as a owner / part owner or syndicate member how
> do u get to go in to the parade ring when your
> horse is running on racedays

Monty it has been covered in some or other thread here.....basically all registered owners are automatic members of the NHA and because the RA is not compulsory the NHA is to provide the necessary "day" badges for members with runners.....this will be fine tuned after the NHA AGM today.....basically your trainer should provide the NHA with the owners details so that one can pick up the badges on course in an info kiosk.....pretty similar to days of old when trainers and officials left day badges and meal tickets for those owners not carrying racing club badges....(tu)

Frodo And Muthi thanks for the feedback

Well, Dave, this thread just about says it all, which is why you are probably not on the "Racing Friendly" list......
1)Flash, my good mate Flash !!!!
1.1 Seasons Tickets do not include finals. Nor do they include Springbok games. Fact.
1.2 ONLY 3 Race meetings per year are excluded from free entry. (Just like your Rugby Season Ticket will explain on the back, in the fine print.)
1.3 On those 3 days, all Owners with runners will get free entry.
1.4 Just a tip - Gold Circle are very well organised and give 4 comps to every Trainer with Runners on July Day. If you know a Trainer well who has July Day runners, call him.....
1.4 Larry was appointed by the Board, as per the RA constitution.

2) Muhti,
2.1 I understand your frustration at not getting that job, nor any others that you may have looked at before in Racing.
2.2 The fact of the matter is that nobody is guaranteed any job, simply because of their qualifications or because they arrived for interview.
2.3 I also picked up my comps envelope for last years July Day, where I had runners. RA had block booked and advertised to RA Members. Tickets were available, first to members with runners , then to the rest of the Members if not taken. We had to have paid for them before collection, within a few hours of Final Fields.

3) Rob Faux, Frodo
3.1 The concerned Owners seem to have disappeared. Except for 2 or 3 guys, the rest who are still "concerned" don't appear to even own horses. This is simple fact. The point that I am making is that Racing and RA has moved on.
3.2 Right now there are long waiting lists for stables, countrywide, so its not as if Racing or Ownership has dwindled, in spite of there being less registered Owners.

4) Elvis
4.1 RA do secure seats at the 3 big meetings, as explained. But, imagine the thread here, if they turned away a member with a runner in favour of one who has no runner ....?
4.2 So, let me get this straight - you could not get a ticket to the Met, years before the RA had anything to do with Gold Circle and WC Racing, so you terminated your RA Membership ? okayyyy....:S

5) Press
So you want your own dress code.... you want to wear shorts in the second box or the parade ring? In spite of there being a specific dress code, for ALL Racecourses Countrywide....?
6) Frodo
I think that Sham Racing answered this one. RA have NOTHING to do with Parade Ring entry and Parade Ring Control. Parade Ring entry is controlled by Operators and events inside the Parade Ring are controlled by NHRA.

The point here, Dave, is that so much absolute bullshit is written and besides three or four forumites, yourself and the administrators are not correcting it. Under a thread about Larry Wainstein, a number of erroneous statements are made. His appointment to his position. Parade ring entry controls. Dress Codes. Entry to Racecourses. Larry is now a crook, according to Savasp. Very capable, efficient staff members may not work at RA or are "suspect" because their husbands work for the Operators. etc etc

The point is that you guys know more inside info than the insiders themselves. You even know that Kimberely is gone in 2015. But you don't know or don't respond when absolute bull is written, against a man and an Association who/which have made great progress in Racing.

No wonder that you are not on the "Racing Friendly" list.....methinks.