Fairview Poly Feedback
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Fairview Poly Feedback
11 years 7 months ago
I'm a fan of this track - would love to know feedback from trainers, jocks, owners etc- Did any horses pull up unsound or break down after the races? Did they pull up distressed etc - I do hope this type of track is the answer to the weather situation in SA but lightning will always halt Gauteng meetings unfortunately
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Re: Re: Fairview Poly Feedback
11 years 7 months ago
According to Robbie Fradd...the track is world class..thats was what Nadine mentioned
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Re: Re: Fairview Poly Feedback
11 years 7 months ago
All our horses pulled up well ,no obvious injuries .
Some horses worked very good on it and did not enjoy racing on .
It's a learning curve for all trainers
Topclass to all involved in putting the Polytrack in PE
Some horses worked very good on it and did not enjoy racing on .
It's a learning curve for all trainers
Topclass to all involved in putting the Polytrack in PE
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Re: Re: Fairview Poly Feedback
11 years 7 months ago
Sham Racing Wrote:
> All our horses pulled up well ,no obvious injuries
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> Some horses worked very good on it and did not
> enjoy racing on .
> It's a learning curve for all trainers
> Topclass to all involved in putting the Polytrack
> in PE
thanks - I think the jocks also will need to learn how to ride on that surface
> All our horses pulled up well ,no obvious injuries
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> Some horses worked very good on it and did not
> enjoy racing on .
> It's a learning curve for all trainers
> Topclass to all involved in putting the Polytrack
> in PE
thanks - I think the jocks also will need to learn how to ride on that surface
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Re: Re: Fairview Poly Feedback
11 years 7 months ago
In the US when stakes races are switched from the turf to the dirt they are down-graded. Will this Algoa Cup now be classified as a Listed race?
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Re: Re: Fairview Poly Feedback
11 years 7 months ago
Thirsty Wrote:
> In the US when stakes races are switched from the
> turf to the dirt they are down-graded. Will this
> Algoa Cup now be classified as a Listed race?
I think that's unfair as the quality of the field was not affected by the change of surface
> In the US when stakes races are switched from the
> turf to the dirt they are down-graded. Will this
> Algoa Cup now be classified as a Listed race?
I think that's unfair as the quality of the field was not affected by the change of surface
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Re: Re: Fairview Poly Feedback
11 years 7 months ago
mr hawaii Wrote:
> Thirsty Wrote:
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> > In the US when stakes races are switched from
> the
> > turf to the dirt they are down-graded. Will
> this
> > Algoa Cup now be classified as a Listed race?
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> I think that's unfair as the quality of the field
> was not affected by the change of surface
But some horses were affected by the surface?
> Thirsty Wrote:
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> > In the US when stakes races are switched from
> the
> > turf to the dirt they are down-graded. Will
> this
> > Algoa Cup now be classified as a Listed race?
>
>
> I think that's unfair as the quality of the field
> was not affected by the change of surface
But some horses were affected by the surface?
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Re: Re: Fairview Poly Feedback
11 years 7 months ago
PeeKay Wrote:
> mr hawaii Wrote:
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> > Thirsty Wrote:
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> > > In the US when stakes races are switched from
> > the
> > > turf to the dirt they are down-graded. Will
> > this
> > > Algoa Cup now be classified as a Listed race?
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> >
> > I think that's unfair as the quality of the
> field
> > was not affected by the change of surface
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>
> But some horses were affected by the surface?
and if they had raced on the turf and some were affected by the soft going?
> mr hawaii Wrote:
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> > Thirsty Wrote:
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> > > In the US when stakes races are switched from
> > the
> > > turf to the dirt they are down-graded. Will
> > this
> > > Algoa Cup now be classified as a Listed race?
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> >
> > I think that's unfair as the quality of the
> field
> > was not affected by the change of surface
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>
> But some horses were affected by the surface?
and if they had raced on the turf and some were affected by the soft going?
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Re: Re: Fairview Poly Feedback
11 years 7 months ago
mr hawaii Wrote:
> PeeKay Wrote:
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> > mr hawaii Wrote:
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> > > Thirsty Wrote:
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> > > > In the US when stakes races are switched
> from
> > > the
> > > > turf to the dirt they are down-graded. Will
> > > this
> > > > Algoa Cup now be classified as a Listed
> race?
> > >
> > >
> > > I think that's unfair as the quality of the
> > field
> > > was not affected by the change of surface
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> > But some horses were affected by the surface?
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> and if they had raced on the turf and some were
> affected by the soft going?
the owners had a choice to withdraw from the race.
i agree with Mr. H that the quality of the horses remained the same
> PeeKay Wrote:
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> > mr hawaii Wrote:
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> > > Thirsty Wrote:
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> > > > In the US when stakes races are switched
> from
> > > the
> > > > turf to the dirt they are down-graded. Will
> > > this
> > > > Algoa Cup now be classified as a Listed
> race?
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> > > I think that's unfair as the quality of the
> > field
> > > was not affected by the change of surface
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> > But some horses were affected by the surface?
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> and if they had raced on the turf and some were
> affected by the soft going?
the owners had a choice to withdraw from the race.
i agree with Mr. H that the quality of the horses remained the same
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Re: Re: Fairview Poly Feedback
11 years 7 months ago
It served its purpose and the meeting wasn't lost or rescheduled. (tu)
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Re: Re: Fairview Poly Feedback
11 years 7 months ago
mr hawaii Wrote:
> PeeKay Wrote:
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> > mr hawaii Wrote:
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> > > Thirsty Wrote:
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> > > > In the US when stakes races are switched
> from
> > > the
> > > > turf to the dirt they are down-graded. Will
> > > this
> > > > Algoa Cup now be classified as a Listed
> race?
> > >
> > >
> > > I think that's unfair as the quality of the
> > field
> > > was not affected by the change of surface
> >
> >
> > But some horses were affected by the surface?
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> and if they had raced on the turf and some were
> affected by the soft going?
I dont think its fair to compare grass (with whatever going it might be) to the polytrack. Just my opinion...
Also, the guys that brought their horses down to raid......they are surely not going to just scratch their horses and would have obviously taken the chance as it was a big race.....
OK, racing went ahead and all......great and commendable
It would be nice to know if any owners/trainers from that main race was a bit annoyed that the surface changed?
> PeeKay Wrote:
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> > mr hawaii Wrote:
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> > > Thirsty Wrote:
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> > >
> > > > In the US when stakes races are switched
> from
> > > the
> > > > turf to the dirt they are down-graded. Will
> > > this
> > > > Algoa Cup now be classified as a Listed
> race?
> > >
> > >
> > > I think that's unfair as the quality of the
> > field
> > > was not affected by the change of surface
> >
> >
> > But some horses were affected by the surface?
>
> and if they had raced on the turf and some were
> affected by the soft going?
I dont think its fair to compare grass (with whatever going it might be) to the polytrack. Just my opinion...
Also, the guys that brought their horses down to raid......they are surely not going to just scratch their horses and would have obviously taken the chance as it was a big race.....
OK, racing went ahead and all......great and commendable
It would be nice to know if any owners/trainers from that main race was a bit annoyed that the surface changed?
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Re: Re: Fairview Poly Feedback
11 years 7 months ago
I am receiving very good reports. I think that the Shams have hit the nail on the head, as usual. Its a learning curve, but a great one. Well done to Phumelela, RA and all the PE racing people !
The only negative was that some visiting horses had never set foot on the surface before. As Shams say, some will love it and some wont, same as wet vs firm, Turf outer vs Turf inner. That's racing. Also, the track is very fast and horses need to get used to it, through training on it. In the end, in the first weekend of its existence, the Poly surface proved its worth to us when mother nature throws us lots of rain.
Now to put Turf on Vaal Sand and Poly on Turf Inner....
-D ..... just me dreaming again ! :S
The only negative was that some visiting horses had never set foot on the surface before. As Shams say, some will love it and some wont, same as wet vs firm, Turf outer vs Turf inner. That's racing. Also, the track is very fast and horses need to get used to it, through training on it. In the end, in the first weekend of its existence, the Poly surface proved its worth to us when mother nature throws us lots of rain.
Now to put Turf on Vaal Sand and Poly on Turf Inner....

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