BUSH RACING
- Titch
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Re: Re: BUSH RACING
11 years 11 months ago
Steph Miller Wrote:
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> Maidens race against 4 and 5 time winners and very
> often they beat them, because these work riders
> ride their hearts out. We have been racing in the
> Kalahari for about 15 years and never have we
> encountered a horse that races there on a Saturday
> and then race on the Monday in Kimberley. I have
> never seen a horse broke down during a race,
> because these tracks are beautiful Kalahari sand
> tracks and they are well maintained by the farmers
> in that region. The Kalahari owners love their
> local racing and therefore they are prepared to
> keep horses in training during the year where they
> normally race at Flamingo Park. It is also not
> cheap to transport your horses to these meetings,
> pay for accommodation and food and wages for your
> staff.
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> I just wish that every owner can experience this
> unique feeling of "bush racing" just once in their
> lifetime.
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> Maidens race against 4 and 5 time winners and very
> often they beat them, because these work riders
> ride their hearts out. We have been racing in the
> Kalahari for about 15 years and never have we
> encountered a horse that races there on a Saturday
> and then race on the Monday in Kimberley. I have
> never seen a horse broke down during a race,
> because these tracks are beautiful Kalahari sand
> tracks and they are well maintained by the farmers
> in that region. The Kalahari owners love their
> local racing and therefore they are prepared to
> keep horses in training during the year where they
> normally race at Flamingo Park. It is also not
> cheap to transport your horses to these meetings,
> pay for accommodation and food and wages for your
> staff.
>
> I just wish that every owner can experience this
> unique feeling of "bush racing" just once in their
> lifetime.
Give everything but up!
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- Bob Brogan
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Re: Re: BUSH RACING
11 years 11 months ago
bloodshot Wrote:
> Sounds great ! But why has this never been
> exposed? I have to agree with Keniza are
> Kimberly horses taking part in these races and
> then arriving in Kimberly on a Monday to run
> again? Just asking is this a once off meeting or
> what ? Who cares we are only punters who gamble
> to make the pools for the stakes ! Sorry but it
> stinks the punters always come second ! We are
> clueles
I thought steph just answered all these questions or most of them
> Sounds great ! But why has this never been
> exposed? I have to agree with Keniza are
> Kimberly horses taking part in these races and
> then arriving in Kimberly on a Monday to run
> again? Just asking is this a once off meeting or
> what ? Who cares we are only punters who gamble
> to make the pools for the stakes ! Sorry but it
> stinks the punters always come second ! We are
> clueles
I thought steph just answered all these questions or most of them
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- mr hawaii
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Re: Re: BUSH RACING
11 years 11 months ago
The question must be asked though ... Are horses currently in training with trainers allowed to run at these meetings? If that is true then that would be against NHRA rules as it is akin to horses working together from different stables if two professional trainers enter horses there (there is no form book for these races that I have ever seen) -
I have no idea if horses that run in Kim do compete in these meets and then return to race under nhra rules afterwards?
If you get two horses from Gauteng and then enter a "bush race" you will have a line on them without many punters knowing
I have no idea if horses that run in Kim do compete in these meets and then return to race under nhra rules afterwards?
If you get two horses from Gauteng and then enter a "bush race" you will have a line on them without many punters knowing
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Re: Re: BUSH RACING
11 years 11 months ago
Titch Wrote:
> keniza999 Wrote:
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> > i think the public deserves to know if the
> horse
> > they are backing was running in the bush.....
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> Most the horses i back run in the bush...
lol...
> keniza999 Wrote:
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> > i think the public deserves to know if the
> horse
> > they are backing was running in the bush.....
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> Most the horses i back run in the bush...
lol...

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Re: Re: BUSH RACING
11 years 11 months ago
Mr Hawai I don't think you want to know formline from the bush racing. I will give you two examples. We had a horse, Unrelated, that ran on Monday. Her first run in Kbly was poor, in the Kalahari she won 2 races, on Monday she ran 11th again. Her starting price was 12/1. If you had her formline for the bush racing you would've included her in all your exotics, but running against decent horses in Kbly she just proved her ability.
In Bray a retired maiden won the main race. She beat 4 and 5 time winners. Does that mean they are bringing her back to racing, definetely not.
In Bray a retired maiden won the main race. She beat 4 and 5 time winners. Does that mean they are bringing her back to racing, definetely not.
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Re: Re: BUSH RACING
11 years 11 months ago
Steph Miller Wrote:
> Mr Hawai I don't think you want to know formline
> from the bush racing. I will give you two
> examples. We had a horse, Unrelated, that ran on
> Monday. Her first run in Kbly was poor, in the
> Kalahari she won 2 races, on Monday she ran 11th
> again. Her starting price was 12/1. If you had
> her formline for the bush racing you would've
> included her in all your exotics, but running
> against decent horses in Kbly she just proved her
> ability.
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> In Bray a retired maiden won the main race. She
> beat 4 and 5 time winners. Does that mean they are
> bringing her back to racing, definetely not.
But still horses may not "work" (these are races) together from different yards except in a race - What's to stop a few gauteng trainers stripping a piece of ground and "racing" untested horses against each other in the name of "bush racing" and then pulling off a coup? - I have nothing against bush racing but I think the horses that compete there should not be racing in conventional races. Also we as the public should be told how long ago a horse ran in such a race - We all know that traveling a horse can take a lot out of it.
> Mr Hawai I don't think you want to know formline
> from the bush racing. I will give you two
> examples. We had a horse, Unrelated, that ran on
> Monday. Her first run in Kbly was poor, in the
> Kalahari she won 2 races, on Monday she ran 11th
> again. Her starting price was 12/1. If you had
> her formline for the bush racing you would've
> included her in all your exotics, but running
> against decent horses in Kbly she just proved her
> ability.
>
> In Bray a retired maiden won the main race. She
> beat 4 and 5 time winners. Does that mean they are
> bringing her back to racing, definetely not.
But still horses may not "work" (these are races) together from different yards except in a race - What's to stop a few gauteng trainers stripping a piece of ground and "racing" untested horses against each other in the name of "bush racing" and then pulling off a coup? - I have nothing against bush racing but I think the horses that compete there should not be racing in conventional races. Also we as the public should be told how long ago a horse ran in such a race - We all know that traveling a horse can take a lot out of it.
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Re: Re: BUSH RACING
11 years 11 months ago
Most valid points ...........................Mr.H. Rules should apply internationally as we are betting all over the world it could throw a negative light on how Racing is being governed, not only locally but also abroad.(tu)
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Re: Re: BUSH RACING
11 years 11 months ago
I watch a documentary on Special Assignment a couple years ago on Bush Racing in South Africa. A horse got injured and a handheld gun was produced to kill it. It was not a pretty sight.
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Re: Re: BUSH RACING
11 years 11 months ago
naresh Wrote:
> I watch a documentary on Special Assignment a
> couple years ago on Bush Racing in South Africa. A
> horse got injured and a handheld gun was produced
> to kill it. It was not a pretty sight.
Is there a Jockey Club vet present? And a Dr ?
> I watch a documentary on Special Assignment a
> couple years ago on Bush Racing in South Africa. A
> horse got injured and a handheld gun was produced
> to kill it. It was not a pretty sight.
Is there a Jockey Club vet present? And a Dr ?
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Re: Re: BUSH RACING
11 years 11 months ago
@Mr Hawaii please read the post from Steph.....she tells you that Vet etc are always present...
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Re: Re: BUSH RACING
11 years 11 months ago
Why are some jockeys not wearing protective gear??
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Re: Re: BUSH RACING
11 years 11 months ago
Sham Racing Wrote:
> @Mr Hawaii please read the post from Steph.....she
> tells you that Vet etc are always present...
A Jockey Club vet?
> @Mr Hawaii please read the post from Steph.....she
> tells you that Vet etc are always present...
A Jockey Club vet?
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