Bookies with sense and those insensible.

YCentaur Wrote:

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> Just back from and was reading.......Russeldavies!
> We all are aware that the bookmakers do not have
> to pay us out. So what are you on about. It is
> their goodwill gesture. We are determining from
> this forum what our business means to them.
> Everyone( seems like except you) knows that what
> happened today was wrong. Even the bookies know
> that, that is why some are offering this goodwill
> gesture. If it was not for this forum nothing
> would have happened. Nobody was forcing the
> bookies to do anything. As you could read Winning
> Post just wanted to compile a list of who was
> coming to the party! We have every right to do
> so. Are you a punter by any chance Russeldavies?


(tu)(tu)

Where is Keith Ho(betxchange) on the list? Anybody know if they refunded?

YCentaur Wrote:

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> Just back from and was reading.......Russeldavies!
> We all are aware that the bookmakers do not have
> to pay us out. So what are you on about. It is
> their goodwill gesture. We are determining from
> this forum what our business means to them.
> Everyone( seems like except you) knows that what
> happened today was wrong. Even the bookies know
> that, that is why some are offering this goodwill
> gesture. If it was not for this forum nothing
> would have happened. Nobody was forcing the
> bookies to do anything. As you could read Winning
> Post just wanted to compile a list of who was
> coming to the party! We have every right to do
> so. Are you a punter by any chance Russeldavies?

Thanks Ycentaur. I do understand Russeldavies's point of view and it's fantastic to see that certain bookies are making a gallant effort to put some pride back into the sport. I have utmost respect for those who offered their good will and now know where my entertainment allowance will be best spent. Those who aren't prepared to take the loss... well simply just don't deserve to see another penny from me.

My problem is the way Winning Post seems to think that its his god given right to get his money and have a go at well established bookmakers.

russelldavie Wrote:

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> Winning Post
>
> If I was a bookmaker in my office and had just
> done 50 and had you banging on my door demanding
> another 50 I don't think ill be jumping up and
> down to pay you.

You probably wouldn't but you might be when I've done another 100, do you think casino's kick out their biggest punters?

russelldavie Wrote:

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> My problem is the way Winning Post seems to think
> that its his god given right to get his money and
> have a go at well established bookmakers.

Look russelldavie, you make out like it's only me. Well it's not. It's not my God given right my friend, the so called well established bookmaker may keep my money and all my mates who did their cash, I have no problem with that and may they be blessed. All i'm saying is this, it will be the last cent they see from me and many many others that have supported them for years, that's my God given right.

Winning_Post Wrote:

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> russelldavie Wrote:
>

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>

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> > My problem is the way Winning Post seems to
> think
> > that its his god given right to get his money
> and
> > have a go at well established bookmakers.
>
> Look russelldavie, you make out like it's only me.
> Well it's not. It's not my God given right my
> friend, the so called well established bookmaker
> may keep my money and all my mates who did their
> cash, I have no problem with that and may they be
> blessed. All i'm saying is this, it will be the
> last cent they see from me and many many others
> that have supported them for years, that's my God
> given right.
After watching the replay I think if these so called Well Established Bookies had any sense and decorum they would refund all
bets on the favourite.
This would never happen in UK or The States.
Russell the race was a mockery of fair play and any bookie who doesn't refund is a crook in my eyes.
I didnt have a bet myself,but if I did I would expect a refund

I posed a question to Russeldavies earlier. Are you a punter? You didn't answer but seem to have a little thing in for Winning Post. It seems with your comments that you are not or am I wrong? If you are not a punter, all I ask is that you watch the race and tell me what you think should have been done? Now from a punters point of view, we deal with the bookies so who must we go to when we are unhappy?..... The booker maker! We saying we are your customer, you know we been done in, are you prepared to offer us a gesture of goodwill. If you are a punter I am dumbstruck, if you a bookmaker, thank goodness I don't punt by you!

I think it's a great idea by WP to name the bookies that keep the stakes,embarrass them and punt with the ones that made the right call.

Yes I am a punter, and I'll give you some advise. Stay away from odds on favourites in juvenile races.

russelldavie Wrote:

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> Yes I am a punter, and I'll give you some advise.
> Stay away from odds on favourites in juvenile
> races.


Thanks for the advise but why are you "so against"(dont know how to word it) what Winning Post was trying to achieve by his posts. It was all in fairness from the punters point of view. You obviously never backed MS? You gave me some advise as to stay away from odds on horse in juveniles? Lets say you would say I am doing my money in cold blood by doing so? More in cold blood as what happen today? I don't think so! Look I am not having a dig at you, but as a fellow punter I just wish you would want the best for all of us. Your dig at WP was just weird especially from a fellow punter.

Like I've said before, make a list of all the bookies that gave refunds well done to them.But don't have a go at the guys that couldn't. We don't know what is going on in there books. They might have taken the horse back on interbet and stand to loose a fortune for nothing that they did. They might of really wanted to pay a refund to there smaller clients but didn't want to do the same for there bigger clients.

Like I've said before, I don't think it's fair to have a go at the bookmakers who didn't refund.