Bookies with sense and those insensible.

Yes well done to the bookmakers that have just Given away hundreds of thousands of rands. Remember they have already paid out on the winner with no deductions. They have taken a big knock for all there punters.

russelldavie Wrote:

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> Why MUST a bookmaker payout on the winner and a
> refund on the favourite. Why MUST a bookmaker give
> his money away? Im not saying there is anything
> wrong with the decision that some bookmakers made
> its very good advertising and a good gesture. I
> got a refund from paddy power on a horse that
> missed the last hurdle. I thought it was a good
> gesture. But I was not expecting it and I wouldn't
> try hold the bookmakers ransom for the money, like
> you have just done.Remember once YOU take a bet
> its not YOUR money.

russelld and others.....u r right..why must a bookmaker give his money away...and u r also right in suggesting...that the bookies had no bearing on what transpired in the race....but i think its also right to know and support the bookies that took the unprecedented step of refunding money at a time when many a punter was brooding....if possible these bookies should be supported over others that didnt...afterall it was a marketing tool that they used and i feel they should be rewarded...so targetting the bookmaker that did not pay is not a vendetta but rather an opportunity of letting them know...that hey there are plenty of outlets out there that we can go to ,if we are not treated well

Fact is, HWD have already recouped 25% of my refund courtesy of Hayley's poor ride on Actonetaketwo in Lingfield. Prior to this, I was with the antagonists who were mooting abstention for a week.

Winning_Post Wrote:

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> Well done to WSB. I'm gonna compile a list once
> all comments have been made. Please guys let's get
> the names of those not refunding and those
> deserving praise.

I had dbls running into MS & hollywood paid me out as a straight bet on the 1 leg and the other leg (MS) showned as scratched

what did interbet do about the race....any body know?

If a bookmaker laid
Horse A 100/50
Horse B 50/50
Horse C 0

horse A wins he is -50
horse B wins he is 0
Horse C wins he is +100

If horse A wins after the payout and the refund this bookmaker is now down 100. I just wanted to Show you basically how much you bookmaker has done for you today, and maybe why some bookmakers didn't give away FREE money today.

russelldavie Wrote:

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> If a bookmaker laid
> Horse A 100/50
> Horse B 50/50
> Horse C 0
>
> horse A wins he is -50
> horse B wins he is 0
> Horse C wins he is +100
>
> If horse A wins after the payout and the refund
> this bookmaker is now down 100. I just wanted to
> Show you basically how much you bookmaker has done
> for you today, and maybe why some bookmakers
> didn't give away FREE money today.

we all understand that he would losE more in giving refunds....nobody said...GOODWILL is FREE

russelldavie Wrote:

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> If a bookmaker laid
> Horse A 100/50
> Horse B 50/50
> Horse C 0
>
> horse A wins he is -50
> horse B wins he is 0
> Horse C wins he is +100
>
> After the payout and the refund this bookmaker is
> now down 100. I just wanted to Show you basically
> how much you bookmaker has done for you today, and
> maybe why some bookmakers didn't give away FREE
> money today.

Look we are not illeterate and we all understand how mathamatics and statistics work in regards to "laying bets", I've designed some systems and formula's that have been used by sport betting operators in the past but that's not the point here. Bookies lay many bets for many centres on many horses and other sports. We are referring to ONE incident... there are many incidents where bookmakers benefit time and time again and I need not go into the mathamatics. In so far as FREE money, what free money? in simple mathamatical terms if the bookmaker actually took the loss on ONE incident he would surely have secured and sustained a much bigger investment.

Fella's to recap.

Bookmakers that have decided to refund it's patrons

1. Marshall’s World of Sport
2. Hollywood
3. WSB if not linked to number 1.

I'm busy signing up with Hollywood gents...

Winning Post

If I was a bookmaker in my office and had just done 50 and had you banging on my door demanding another 50 I don't think ill be jumping up and down to pay you.

Just back from and was reading.......Russeldavies! We all are aware that the bookmakers do not have to pay us out. So what are you on about. It is their goodwill gesture. We are determining from this forum what our business means to them. Everyone( seems like except you) knows that what happened today was wrong. Even the bookies know that, that is why some are offering this goodwill gesture. If it was not for this forum nothing would have happened. Nobody was forcing the bookies to do anything. As you could read Winning Post just wanted to compile a list of who was coming to the party! We have every right to do so. Are you a punter by any chance Russeldavies?

@russelldavie

what dont you understand about what ppl are saying here????????

we know and understand that the bookies didnt have to pay.....do you get this

we saying hats off to those that did refund bets...do you understand that

what is wrong in what we saying?????