CTS April Yearling Sale 2018

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Re: CTS April Yearling Sale 2018

7 years 1 month ago
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The cost of racing has increased disproportionally to stakes increases solely because Jooste put all his mates in charge and mismanaged almost every area of racing. He was able to absorb the added costs while everyone else suffered. I don't know how equilibrium will be reached again because stakes money can't go up and trainers, breeders, workers and everyone else in racing can't afford to take cuts to their income.

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Re: CTS April Yearling Sale 2018

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The missing link wrote: The cost of racing has increased disproportionally to stakes increases solely because Jooste put all his mates in charge and mismanaged almost every area of racing. He was able to absorb the added costs while everyone else suffered. I don't know how equilibrium will be reached again because stakes money can't go up and trainers, breeders, workers and everyone else in racing can't afford to take cuts to their income.

......exactly....and while they were all pandering to the man....they forgot about the all other..... :oops: .....those goons are now entrenched in the game and the all other will continue to suffer.... :S

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Re: CTS April Yearling Sale 2018

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JOOSTE FACTOR AFFECTS YEARLING SALE
PUBLISHED: 16 APRIL 2018

The Markus Jooste factor – or rather lack of it – had a devastating effect on last week’s CTS April yearling sale and vendors are now bracing themselves for a difficult time at next week’s 526-lot National Yearling Sale.

The Durbanville sale was billed as a combination of last year’s Emperor’s Palace Select and the Cape Town March which together resulted in 332 sold for an average of R173 328 and a R57.5 million total. Last Thursday and Friday only 208 out of 289 horses on offer were sold and the average slumped by 43% to R97 764 while the aggregate was only just over R20 million.

At last year’s Emperor’s Palace nine yearlings went for R1 million or more (by no means all of them for Jooste partnerships) whereas last week the highest price was R700 000.

Sales company CEO Wehann Smith said: “We are all aware of the effect that Steinhoff and Mayfair Speculators have had but even so the results were a little bit down on what we expected. On the positive side one has to believe that this is an abnormal year and hopefully it is just a blip on the radar. But it is certainly very tough on the breeders.”

Seemingly not all of them were as stunned as the bare results would suggest and Cape Breeders chairman Vaughan Koster said yesterday that he was not all that surprised.

He explained: “For starters we were on a hiding to nothing having two sales within little more than ten days of each.

“Secondly the liquidation of Mayfair Speculators is having a huge effect on the industry. What Markus used to put into it each year is no longer coming in and on top of that all his horses have been up for sale. I don’t want to sound all doom and gloom but we have to be realistic – there just isn’t the same money around.

“I think we have to expect a reduction at Nationals although I believe the sale will still be relatively strong. It’s the regional sales that are going to be difficult. Everybody in the industry is going to have to tighten their belts and cut costs for a couple of years when I believe the market will turn around again.”

Koster expects the anticipated re-opening of the export protocols to act as the catalyst and believes that breeders have a part to play in expediting this, saying: “We need to push hard to ensure that this goes ahead because it will make a big difference.”

By Michael Clower

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Re: CTS April Yearling Sale 2018

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Warren Laird wrote: JOOSTE FACTOR AFFECTS YEARLING SALE
PUBLISHED: 16 APRIL 2018


At last year’s Emperor’s Palace nine yearlings went for R1 million or more (by no means all of them for Jooste partnerships) whereas last week the highest price was R700 000.


“For starters we were on a hiding to nothing having two sales within little more than ten days of each.

By Michael Clower

......does this jurno know something about the 9 ZARBAR horses that many dont.....he could have said none of the 9 were purchased by Mayfair/Jooste.....unless the CvN 2 were going to be shared or The Phantom of Magnier 3 were going to be raced in partnership....or Fiona Carmicheal sharing her Captain Al....how many of these 9 were legitimately sold....to date none of these have raced yet....and will be interesting to see in whose silks they race.... :huh:

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Re: CTS April Yearling Sale 2018

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....correction one has raced and won .....Cue The Music ZAR 1.6BAR.....bid by Bosch for Mario Ferreira..... :blush:

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Re: CTS April Yearling Sale 2018

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.....and did Jooste/Mayfair actually pay for many of the lots purchased at CTS sales..... :huh:
....just seen in the latest NHRA publication a horse that was bid on by Mayfair at the April 2017 Emperors CTS and recorded as a ZAR400K sale.....get transferred directly from the breeder(not Klawervlei) to another party.....shame CTS and other big breeders involved with this sham.... :whistle:

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Re: CTS April Yearling Sale 2018

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Told by a Cape Town trainer that a breeder gave away 6 horses at the end of the sale
I estimate there were as many buybacks and unsold as the were legitimate sales
Not sure how the race levy works for no bid and unsold horses
but doubt if CTS will collect enough for the stakes of the R500k races

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Certainly looked like hassan adams bought all his back

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Re: CTS April Yearling Sale 2018

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.....besides all the not solds.....and many withdrawals....I count up to 40 known and very obvious buy backs.....and as Garrick posted the levy for sales entry is optional and paid on top of the purchase price....wonder if those lesser valued horses in the R20K-R80K range of which there were a big % had these optional levies paid for the sales incentive races.....the CTS CEO has made no mention of the collections towards these high stake races.....can only see that they have to huddle the CTS shareholders together and pass around the hat to get a top up.... :whistle:

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Re: CTS April Yearling Sale 2018

7 years 1 month ago
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The joke to me is that if this was a normal year - and CTS had a good strong sale with numbers up , we would not hear the end of it.

Besides one or two articles - It seems to be hush hush and move on. Tell that to the breeder that was getting good prices the last 5 years - bought a bout and a huge house and now could not get a bid.

It is the same story with the cows - We have all seen the slide on tv - Dave Scott opend a thread on it - Up to this day now two weeks later - not one slide about the prizes shown on social media, yet for a few weeks everyday we were remindered how great they were giving out free water.

Here is a different perspection by David Allen from yeaterdays Turf Talk - If Day 1 - Lots 1 to 170 are going to have a reserve or minimum of R 100K well then they to will be done .


It shouldn’t have been in April…
but what next?
VENDORS had a tough time at the CTS April Sale. Buyers had a ball.
DON’T blame the current CTS executive and management who played no part in deciding the
date of last week’s sale. They arrived after it was determined and inherited a situation that
was the only element of failure in our long mediation process last year conducted of course
well before the Mayfair situation arose.
Just as the logistical management of Cape Premier
was extremely good in spite of the Mayfair impact,
so did CTS make as good a fist of CTS April as
possible under the predicted circumstances.
In the end game of our mediation in August last
year, CTS had by then cancelled three sales for one
reason or another, vacating Johannesburg
completely in the process. BSA’s Ready to Run had
gone before we started and the remaining target
was to “sort out” a single sale in the Cape placed
between CPYS and NYS.
It wasn’t sorted out. Mistico was not withdrawn
although withdrawal was debated. CTS’s sale would
replace Emperors as an enhanced version of CTS
March. Diplomacy aimed at keeping it in March, not
door-stepping the Nationals on dates, was
ultimately unsuccessful (with Mistico remaining).
Our blueprint for a joint sale, to achieve one single
sale only, was perhaps ahead of its time and
remains on the table.
Aside from the programme, cooperative protocols
were tabled and both sides acted materially up to a
point with regard to the high costs of selling in
South Africa.
Having never embraced sales races compulsorily
funded by vendors and buyers, it was with pleasure that we noted the R160,000 sale of a
horse in “Session 3” at CTS April last week which
had a median of R25,000 and qualified for nothing.
Other session medians were R42,500 and
R105,000.
Much of the breeding industry cannot continue for
long producing racehorses for sale at current
levels. Breeders are already dropping out.
An expert buyer told me that he was steamed up
about Bloodstock South Africa’s R100,000 minimum
bid for their Session 1 at NYS. “Don’t they know
that it is the market that will determine how much
a horse is worth?” he asked.
In pure economic terms, he is absolutely right,
interpreting the situation as potentially preventing
him from buying a nice horse out of Session 1 for
less than R100,000.
But one would hope that Session 1
entries were not made for yearlings
unlikely to make R100,000? And that the
sales company has not approved
anything that might make less? So do we
think that all 231 Session 1 lots will
make at least R100,000? Or is my buyer
friend right that R100,000 is too high
(because there won’t be enough bids to
go round)?
Of course sales companies need to act strategically
to improve their figures, and to dress up a “select”
part of a sale as something different.
BSA’s elimination of Not Solds and Vendor
Buybacks from their stats is right and proper. It
follows that if the minimum bid is increased, either
everything will actually make more than the
minimum or those that fail to do so will not count
negatively in the calculation of averages and
medians.
The median for the whole NYS last year was
R175,000, and for CPYS this year R300,000. Will
BSA’s first sector achieve that? Here’s hoping…
Buyers can get used to buying nice horses for small
money but ultimately it is a self-defeating exercise.
Most breeders have a ball-park figure of R130-
160,000 for the production of a yearling on the
basis of non-farm owning breeders paying keep
etc. Farms will vary as to their figures but will be in
the same general area. This excludes stallion fees,
as well as any amortisation of the original cost of
the mare and may exclude optional insurance.
Therefore selling a yearling by a 6-figure sire for
(say) R300,000 might be a case of getting a chunk
of money back, not of turning a useful profit.
Regionally, BSA Mistico’s median of R50,000 was
less distressed by levies than CTS April Session 2’s
R42,500 therefore worth even more to the vendor.
But half the lots at each sale will have fallen below
the median. Unless bailed out by the
occasional “big one” – and it would have to be big -
the equation is impossible.
Last week around 80 out of 288 offered were “Not
Sold” which mostly meant No Bid. About another 30
were declared vendor buybacks which may have
meant No Bid or being bid up to a level. As
anywhere, there would also have been undeclared
buybacks.
The list of sires of yearlings receiving no bid or
otherwise having a poor time of it is very long.
All bad sires? Of course not. All bad individuals?
Absolutely not – some weren’t great but they had
been inspected. Mostly fillies? Not a major factor.
It was a matter of the fundamental demand for
racehorses and the number and power of the buyers
who actually attended or were represented.
An experienced friend said to me the other day “I
can syndicate a R400,000 horse in minutes, but I
can’t get people into a R50,000 horse”. This would
apply mostly to racing regulars: people of means
who are comfortable having several minority shares,
spreading their involvement in that way and
believing that a somewhat higher price is more
likely to define a somewhat better horse. (Not
necessarily true but it’s how many people think).
In contrast, in any economy it is the smaller
spenders who tighten their belts first thus making
lower cost syndications difficult.
Perhaps the drive – such as it is – to make racing
affordable is actually self-defeating. It is an elite
activity. It is a no jeans or shorts in the parade ring
occasion. Betting for some, yes of course, but for
many it is the social day out or the thrill of watching
from afar with or without a flutter.
A marketing guru would surely
say “Target people who can
afford it. There are fewer of
them – thus more easily a
identifiable - but still thousands
if only they knew how much
they would enjoy racing”.
In the absence of a raft of bloodstock agents
combing for clients, and of any socially driven
outreach by the industry to those “who can afford
it” – also with limited governing body intervention -
it is only the sales companies that are equipped to
bring more buyers in numbers. Their relative
positioning will be clearer next year when perhaps
we can see improved sustainability.—

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Re: CTS April Yearling Sale 2018

7 years 1 month ago
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Warren are you saying they won't open bidding for lots 1 through 231 under R100k...wonder how thats gonna work out for them..?

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Re: CTS April Yearling Sale 2018

7 years 1 month ago
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From what I undertand Day 1 are lots 1 to 170 - Nothing will be sold under 100k . In other words an automatic reserve of R100k

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