Weights Hollywoodbets Durban July

bayern wrote:

Conversely i am hoping he runs and wins.

Two things, we all aware of how ante post betting rules operate, no explanation needed. More importantly, The rumour that 8 on 18 may not run in the July, did the stable actually make that statement? First time i heard about it, was on ABC. I am of the opinion that Johnno's comments along the lines, no 3 year old has won the Met, Derby, Daily News 2000 and the Champions Cup may have started this conspiracy, but at no point did the stable declare 8 on 18 a doubtful starter. 

We also need to be fair.

May your fancy win.

Frodo wrote:

bayern wrote:

Conversely i am hoping he runs and wins.

Two things, we all aware of how ante post betting rules operate, no explanation needed. More importantly, The rumour that 8 on 18 may not run in the July, did the stable actually make that statement? First time i heard about it, was on ABC. I am of the opinion that Johnno's comments along the lines, no 3 year old has won the Met, Derby, Daily News 2000 and the Champions Cup may have started this conspiracy, but at no point did the stable declare 8 on 18 a doubtful starter. 

We also need to be fair.

May your fancy win.

Snaith said on TV (I believe after the DN) that 8 on 18 MAY NOT RUN in the JULY - so make of that what you will ...

My apologies then.

Frodo wrote:

bayern wrote:

Conversely i am hoping he runs and wins.

Two things, we all aware of how ante post betting rules operate, no explanation needed. More importantly, The rumour that 8 on 18 may not run in the July, did the stable actually make that statement? First time i heard about it, was on ABC. I am of the opinion that Johnno's comments along the lines, no 3 year old has won the Met, Derby, Daily News 2000 and the Champions Cup may have started this conspiracy, but at no point did the stable declare 8 on 18 a doubtful starter. 

We also need to be fair.

May your fancy win.

Snaith said on TV (I believe after the DN) that 8 on 18 MAY NOT RUN in the JULY - so make of that what you will ...

The concern was the size of field and the race is rough and jocks ride very hard so did they want to risk injuring him...That was direct from Snaith after one of his wins

 

mr hawaii wrote:

Frodo wrote:

bayern wrote:

Conversely i am hoping he runs and wins.

Two things, we all aware of how ante post betting rules operate, no explanation needed. More importantly, The rumour that 8 on 18 may not run in the July, did the stable actually make that statement? First time i heard about it, was on ABC. I am of the opinion that Johnno's comments along the lines, no 3 year old has won the Met, Derby, Daily News 2000 and the Champions Cup may have started this conspiracy, but at no point did the stable declare 8 on 18 a doubtful starter. 

We also need to be fair.

May your fancy win.

Snaith said on TV (I believe after the DN) that 8 on 18 MAY NOT RUN in the JULY - so make of that what you will ...

The concern was the size of field and the race is rough and jocks ride very hard so did they want to risk injuring him...That was direct from Snaith after one of his wins

On the lighter side, that must be dippy logic considering he's dad won from draw 20 with a 3 year old, don't believe the jockeys back then were more forgiving. Didn't Pomodoro win fro a wide draw as well as a 3 year old? 


 

mr hawaii wrote:

You can't compare Legislate with this horse.... He is worth more as a stallion than any of these local races.... I can't recall a stallion like Lancaster Bomber before with so many Gr 1 winners in such a short time so I fully understand why they would not like to risk the horse... so which is more important winning this race or rather the Champions Cup WFA where there are less horses and its not a Handicap

Mr H, was referring to Flaming Rock who won from draw 20/20.

If he wins the July and comes out of that race "unscathed", why not have a go at the Champions Cup? If he wins the July, that would be a record, if he goes on to win the Champions Cup, that may never be repeated in our lifetime - imagine the stud value then!

bayern wrote:

mr hawaii wrote:

You can't compare Legislate with this horse.... He is worth more as a stallion than any of these local races.... I can't recall a stallion like Lancaster Bomber before with so many Gr 1 winners in such a short time so I fully understand why they would not like to risk the horse... so which is more important winning this race or rather the Champions Cup WFA where there are less horses and its not a Handicap

Mr H, was referring to Flaming Rock who won from draw 20/20.

If he wins the July and comes out of that race "unscathed", why not have a go at the Champions Cup? If he wins the July, that would be a record, if he goes on to win the Champions Cup, that may never be repeated in our lifetime - imagine the stud value then!

People seem to forget that a part owner is the husband of the owner of Drakenstein Stud so risking breeding horses for stakes money is not their game - I think taking this horse for an overseas campaign might suite them better