Weights Hollywoodbets Durban July

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Re: Weights Hollywoodbets Durban July

2 days 20 hours ago
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Durban -Twenty-nine horses have stood their ground for the running of the R5 million Gr1 Hollywoodbets Durban July and the big question on everyone’s lips is will star three-year-old Eight On Eighteen be among the select 18 to face the starter at Hollywoodbets Greyville Racecourse on Saturday, July 5.

As things stand, Justin Snaith’s colt will shoulder 57kg, the highest weight ever carried by a three-year-old in the race. Given that the weights are allocated according to merit ratings with conditions, even though Eight On Eighteen will shoulder a record weight, he is still well in according to official merit ratings. He is the highest merit rated horse in the race but will be in receipt of 3kg from top weights, See It Again, Gladatorian and last year’s winner, Oriental Charm. Word from the early morning Summerveld touts is that Eight On Eighteen is working great guns so we wait with bated breath as to whether Snaith and owners Johan Rupert and Nick Jonsson are willing to take on the challenge.

The highest weighted three-year-old winner of the big race was the Snaith-trained Legislate back in 2014 who carried 56kg to victory. More recently, Oriental Charm and Kommetdieding both carried 53kg. The minimum weight for a three-year-old male is set at 53kg and one of the more interesting entries is the Mike and Mathew de Kock-trained Immediate Edge. The Gr3 Jubilee Stakes run at Turffontein is traditionally the last chance saloon for Highveld-based runners and Immediate Edge romped home, although he only had 52kg on his back. Immediate Edge has won four of his six races. On a merit rating of just 108, he is way out at the weights with the majority of the field, including Eight On Eighteen who in a normal handicap would be giving him 10,5kg, but just the fact that the De Kock’s have let him stand his ground is enough to have the sponsors Hollywoodbets taking no chances, and Immediate Edge is currently third favourite on offer at 7-1.

Eight On Eighteen is the ruling favourite on offer at 18-10 with last year’s winner Oriental Charm at 11-2. Joint top weight See It Again will be having his third bite at the cherry and could emulate the Pat Antelme-trained Gondolier, who won the race at his third attempt. See It Again races in the same silks as Eight On Eighteen but is trained by Michael Roberts.

The final field will be announced on Tuesday 24 June live on Gallop TV from 11am, with the Gallops broadcast from Hollywoodbets Greyville on Thursday 26 June from 7am.

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Re: Weights Hollywoodbets Durban July

2 days 19 hours ago
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In 3 weeks in July after the race, 8/18 is effectively a 4 yr old. 3 weeks for a theoretical anniversary doesn't mean tremendous improvement.

This is why 3yr olds have a great July record, unlike the Met whereby a 3yr old is 3yrs and 4 months in the July the 3yr old is almost 4 yrs. Hece the wfa allowance is a real boost.

Next year 8/18 will have to give weight to Oriental Charm, See it Again etc, and be in some cases 7 and 8kgs out with the fillies and new 3yr old colts. If this race was run 3 weeks latter this horse carries 60, Oriental Charm carries 59kgs, all in all this is a 4kg swing from getting 3kgs to giving 1kg.
This year, he is the best weighted horse given his rating to the field.

In theory, Immediate Edge should of carried 47kgs in relation to 8/18, but the rules state a 3yr old colts minimum weight can only be 53kg. And a max weight is 57kgs.

I'm still bamboozled why the concern to run the horse, if he misses this race there is nothing left in SA. Stud value doesn't change no matter the outcome as well. It could turn out to be the easiest July winner we have seen in many a year

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Re: Weights Hollywoodbets Durban July

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10 of the 18 Jockeys we know so far

See it Again Raymond Danielson
Madison Valley - Gavin Lerena 
Purple Pitcher - Kabelo Matsunyane
Selukwe - Serino Moodley
Immediate Edge - Callan Murray
Okavango - Andrew Fortune
Atticus Finch - Calvin Habib
Royal Victory - Muzi Yeni
Confederate - Warren Kennedy
The Real Prince - Craig Zackey
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Re: Weights Hollywoodbets Durban July

1 day 5 hours ago
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Legend of Arthur scratched. Thank you Mr Tarry for not pulling this to the eleventh hour before making a decision. 
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Re: Weights Hollywoodbets Durban July

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so the BIIG race is just 15 days away  & right now we're not sure if the HOT POT FAVOURITE will take his place in the line up.

I for one have NOT taken any MULTIPLES with the FAV....   for fear of doing my money in COLD BLOOD........   basically   "  THIS IS NOT CRICKET   I KNOW IT'S HORSE RACING   -    BUT  so be it...  it is what it is,   - doesn't seem fair & puts a damper on the whole BUILD UP TO THE RACE.

Just announce.......   HE'S A RUNNER OR NOT !
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Re: Weights Hollywoodbets Durban July

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so the BIIG race is just 15 days away  & right now we're not sure if the HOT POT FAVOURITE will take his place in the line up.

I for one have NOT taken any MULTIPLES with the FAV....   for fear of doing my money in COLD BLOOD........   basically   "  THIS IS NOT CRICKET   I KNOW IT'S HORSE RACING   -    BUT  so be it...  it is what it is,   - doesn't seem fair & puts a damper on the whole BUILD UP TO THE RACE.

Just announce.......   HE'S A RUNNER OR NOT !

Spot on, its just a statement to say "Yes, we intend to run him. Or NO, we do not". Surely by now Fourie also knows what his mount is in the big race. From what I am hearing, he will take his place. Not for a penny of my money though, this entire build up is sour for such a special horse in SA racing. Trainer and connections should be ashamed. 
 

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Re: Weights Hollywoodbets Durban July

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Can   HOLLYWOOD  BETS  &   W.S.B. - please put up odds.

8 on 18   is a runner
8 on 18 is NOT a runner

put some odds up please !

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Re: Weights Hollywoodbets Durban July

1 day 3 hours ago
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8 on 18      ACCEPTED   !!!!!!!!

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Re: Weights Hollywoodbets Durban July

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11 of the 18 Jockeys we know so far

Litigation Grant Van Niekerk
See it Again Raymond Danielson
Madison Valley - Gavin Lerena 
Purple Pitcher - Kabelo Matsunyane
Selukwe - Serino Moodley
Immediate Edge - Callan Murray
Okavango - Andrew Fortune
Atticus Finch - Calvin Habib
Royal Victory - Muzi Yeni
Confederate - Warren Kennedy
The Real Prince - Craig Zackey

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Re: Weights Hollywoodbets Durban July

1 day 3 hours ago
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8 on 18      ACCEPTED   !!!!!!!!


Is this "official", see Hollywood have trimmed the odds to 16/10 now.
Guessing has never been widely acclaimed as a good gambling strategy.

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Re: Weights Hollywoodbets Durban July

1 day 2 hours ago - 1 day 2 hours ago
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on   SA HORSERACING......    noms

STILL    2 / 1     W.S.B.
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Re: Weights Hollywoodbets Durban July

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8 on 18      ACCEPTED   !!!!!!!!


Is this "official", see Hollywood have trimmed the odds to 16/10 now.

Dont think this is official yet, still no official confirmation. Odds shortening on HW more as a result of Legend of Arthur bring scratched. Still the same everywhere else. 
 

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