Turffontien on Sunday 7th May

cliffordius wrote:

Muhtiman wrote:

.....really like the ped pic of the well named Fushimi Inari (Japanese shrine) ....and it stood out at the sales over a year ago....does not look ready yet ....so places, and throw into swingers with Brettski and the top 2 in the betting....

Certain connected trainers making mockery of the game. Crazy what's going on. And poor jockey gets 6 months suspension for doing some cocaine !!!

Sylvester wrote:

Nebraas and Shangani ran 40 to 50 points below their official ratings. Does NHRA investigate????

durbs wrote:

1 Shangani 1.43 1.25 1.11 1.00 0.91 0.87 0.83 0.87
Heavily backed and runs poorly

2 Nebraas 1.82 2.00 2.27 2.50 3.03 3.33 3.57 4.00 4.55 5.00 5.56
Massive drift,bookies knew this horse wasn't in a condition to race today,runs a shocker and the stable companion wins.

I'm so glad I only waste my money once or twice a week on our bullshit racing now..Soon,I hope,it will be once a month only.

Beyond The Pale wrote:

durbs wrote:

1 Shangani 1.43 1.25 1.11 1.00 0.91 0.87 0.83 0.87
Heavily backed and runs poorly

2 Nebraas 1.82 2.00 2.27 2.50 3.03 3.33 3.57 4.00 4.55 5.00 5.56
Massive drift,bookies knew this horse wasn't in a condition to race today,runs a shocker and the stable companion wins.

I'm so glad I only waste my money once or twice a week on our bullshit racing now..Soon,I hope,it will be once a month only.

Oh I pray to the Lord that quote may come true as I would love to no longer read your continuous wailing and whining about a subject you have no idea about .

I will just give a moment to try and explain that there is no " illuminati " of bookmakers sitting in the background with the day's card in front of them , working out ways to puncture the punters.

Let's take your example in case , you admit the horse Nebraas only ran last week , 18/10 was a daft price and accordingly went on the drift , personally I would have offered at least 4/1 as an opening price , I expected Shangani the horse to beat and money to come for one or two light weight horses .

Nebraas has had a fair amount of racing and his win over Shangani was hard fought.

The market in general is is swayed by supply and demand , if there is no support for a horse or confidence it will drift , that is not to say it can't win but it means the bookies can't give it away and are now laying a horse at 6/1 in most cases and possibly better, not great for their book especially if they've laid Shangani at a top price .. However most would not have laid it.

I have said in the past that I have operated on exchanges for years and it's one of the hardest industries to make money , I also know of many shrewd , much shrewder than I , professional punters who have given up trying to lay horses as it's just too difficult and they've gone back to punting , mainly sports.

There may be the odd bookmaker who receives advice from trainers and jockeys but in my experience they have been stuck out more than they have made a fortune for.

Stop being such a miserable doomsayer , get out of the business if it's such a poison and turn to casinos or something but please stop with your utter tripe and consistent guess work .