Sham yard positive???

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8 years 11 months ago
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and lets NEVER forget in SA you can get away with drink driving or speeding for circa R200 are you really telling me access to a horse cannot be gained?

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Re: Sham yard positive???

8 years 11 months ago - 8 years 11 months ago
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Some of the examples of emails , Mark says they should grow a pair.

They have nothing to hide



Sorry! Hot topic. Can't continue to bite my tongue. :-)

Numerous people in my circle find Mark Shams public post (your Sporting Post comment) insincere, particularly since an assistant has admitted to many people that he "f...d up". It is a huge pity that the necessary security footage referred to, is not available. It would bring peace of mind.

The Shams should have taken the punishment regardless, and continued quietly. I can understand Mark Sham being defensive (apparently it's in his nature), but now he is drawing attention their yard! I hope his efforts do not backfire.

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Re: Sham yard positive???

8 years 11 months ago
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Bob jealousy in P/e racing especially if you do well brings out the worst in people ..this email says his circle of [ people ] find the response insincere [ tough when he or they hide behind dummy emails... and they did take the punishment but why was it supposed to be quietly.

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8 years 11 months ago
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Security has three "D's"

Deter

Detect

Defence

Without a deterrent, any operator in any business will be powerless to prevent harm to their business without taking strong measures to counter such.

Without detection, the business can not prove who the culprits are and successfully prosecute them

Without any form of defence, a business is open to harm and can not prove in a court of law who the guilty party is and how they committed the offence.

High resolution WORKING cameras are the solution and they need to have a large server to store information going back several months if required.

In Africa, this doesn't always work. Corruption can get you past any barrier of defence. I have seen major security threatened all the time through this. It isn't always conspiracy theory.

If someone wants to harm a trainer's reputation and pocket, they are easily got at without the necessary security implemented
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Re: Sham yard positive???

8 years 7 months ago
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The National Horseracing Authority confirms that an Inquiry was held at its offices in Port Elizabeth on 10 November 2016.
Trainer Mrs D A Sham was charged with a contravention of Rule 10.5.14, in that she was the person responsible for the horse, MR HANSEN, when an ‘out of competition’ blood specimen taken from this horse at her Racing Stable at Fairview on 29 July 2016, disclosed upon analysis the presence of Flunixin, the treatment and administration of which was not accurately recorded in her veterinary treatment register.

Flunixin is a prohibited substance in terms of the Rules of The National Horseracing Authority.

Mrs Sham pleaded guilty to the charge.

The Inquiry Board found Mrs Sham guilty as charged and imposed a penalty of R30 000 of which R15 000 is wholly suspended for a period of 36 months provided she is not found guilty of a contravention of the rules relating to prohibited substances during that period.

In addition, The Board directed Mrs Sham to pay R5 000, being a portion of the actual costs and expenses incurred by The National Horseracing Authority in connection with the Inquiry proceedings in terms of rule 84.6.

Further, the suspended penalty of R20 000 imposed by an Inquiry Board on Mrs Sham at an Inquiry held in Port Elizabeth on 15 June 2016 for a contravention of Rule 73.2.4, is brought into effect.

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Re: Sham yard positive???

8 years 7 months ago - 8 years 7 months ago
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In my opinion the sentence is inappropriately lenient. Here is a trainer under the cloud of a confirmed breach of the medications rule, being caught with another positive a month later.

It is time that the NHRA act in the interests of the image of horse racing and begin to withdraw licences of trainers who are repeat offenders and/or obvious dopers. The impression that I get is that the NHRA do not have the will and/or legal ability to do this. There is also the matter of well-needed funding being secured through the fining of transgressors, in other words, what is more important - integrity or financial survival?

Recently Paul Peter received a ridiculous fine I think it was R600K. I have been told by very well informed people that this fine has not been paid and that the legality of the amount fined by the NHRA has been challenged. If this rumour is true, it is not unfair to assume that the NHRA are impotent in getting rid of the criminal element within their ranks.
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8 years 7 months ago
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Over the Air wrote: In my opinion the sentence is inappropriately lenient. Here is a trainer under the cloud of a confirmed breach of the medications rule, being caught with another positive a month later.

It is time that the NHRA act in the interests of the image of horse racing and begin to withdraw licences of trainers who are repeat offenders and/or obvious dopers. The impression that I get is that the NHRA do not have the will and/or legal ability to do this. There is also the matter of well-needed funding being secured through the fining of transgressors, in other words, what is more important - integrity or financial survival?

Recently Paul Peter received a ridiculous fine I think it was R600K. I have been told by very well informed people that this fine has not been paid and that the legality of the amount fined by the NHRA has been challenged. If this rumour is true, it is not unfair to assume that the NHRA are impotent in getting rid of the criminal element within their ranks.

Lenient ? You know what she was found guilty off?

She never wrote in the vet book every day she used a paste

The paste was written up by the Vet
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Re: Sham yard positive???

8 years 7 months ago
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Again soft targets, big whohaa we are doing our job, but the "pig juice and cobalt bigwigs" are still laughing at us. :angry: :angry:
Grow a pair.......... :angry: :angry:

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Re: Sham yard positive???

8 years 7 months ago
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So bob tell me we have several repeat offenders how many strikes and you are out?the majority of trainers race drug free while the rest get caught pay a fine and carry on ....Some of these cases if they were sent to a first world racing land some of these guys would have had civil charges nevermind had their license taken away...Here they become heroes get more horses and put on a pedestal

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Re: Sham yard positive???

8 years 7 months ago
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Morning ...Its so easy to sit on your high hill OTA under a pseudonym and run down people who actually are there working all day...have you ever actually worked physically with any horse never mind in a racing yard.

This fine is a technicality that was only told to trainers the week before by the road show.
This horse was very unsound and is now retired btw. There was a medication prescribed for him within the veterinary parameters but on the day his out of competition test was taken it had not been written into the treatment register. Trainers were only told at the roadshow that every treatment (even after prescription) had to be written into treatment book daily. Our own vet is flabbergasted by the fine as well as a top trainer.
If any other trainers books were checked that week they would have been found guilty of the same thing.
The NHA vet who did the specimen was told of and signed off where the paste was prescribed.

Thank you Neigh.....you are correct

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Re: Sham yard positive???

8 years 7 months ago
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I think the majority know how the Shams take care of their stock.
The horse is always put first and I've said before,they stand out on their looks and wellbeing.
They look after the retired ones post racing,which is as important as when they are racing.

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Re: Sham yard positive???

8 years 7 months ago - 8 years 7 months ago
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I make no apology for my thoughts. The system is broken. This is not an attack on Sham Racing, it is merely an observation on the situation they find themselves in. It is true for a MdK or a Dorrie Sham. One thing that is vital to this sport is the full functioning of an impartial, fair and functioning NHRA.
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