gold circle continue to reward and prom mediocrity

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gold circle continue to reward and prom mediocrity

10 years 4 months ago

now I have seen and heard it all..how low can you go...race 8 pmb tom and gangham style is made 3rd reserve and the reason being his trainer has accepted with more than one runner and because its a full field the trainer has to decide which of his runners must run....his merit rating which should be the only factor they should be looking at IS THE 7TH HIGHEST IN THE FIELD but he is made 3rd reserve...surely you cannot punish the owners of this horse because the trainer has more than one horse which qualifies for this race....fcuking disgrace

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10 years 4 months ago

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then you look at race 5 another mr 70 and the 17 and 18 should be getting a run before one of the 2 couplings in the race...

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10 years 4 months ago

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Same happened to Don't Mention

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10 years 4 months ago

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in race 4 a maiden plate one trainer has 4 automatic runners while another has one acceptance and is 3rd reserve..this race the mr was used to eliminate correctly so as its the only way to do it

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10 years 4 months ago

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Just a question and certainly not an accusation as I don't know the connections involved but at one stage I had a problem getting a horse into races and after a few calls was told the trainer was in bad standing and others would receive preferential treatment?

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10 years 4 months ago

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Pirates, I will check on race 5 as to why a trainer has 2 in the race before 2 other trainers have 1. That is confusing. With regards maidens, MR is not the criteria in choosing the field. It is a points system where you start with 0 and then after 2 runs you start getting minus points for runs that are not in the first 5. Once you run in the first 5 again you go back to 0. Horses that have run places in their last runs get in first then 1st timers. Merit rating is not taken into account in maidens at all.

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10 years 4 months ago

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Pirates this crusade you have against Gold Circle is getting boring. Also get your facts straight before going on a tirade against these guys. I get it you have a beef with the boys after they sold Clairwood but keep it tidy, or rather just ignore it and tip us a few winners. It will be much better for your sanity.

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10 years 4 months ago - 10 years 4 months ago

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Interesting principle eminating from Gold Circle .......they don't recognize the MR's for the July and now regard placing as more important than the MR of a maiden....
Are they about to declare a unilateral Declaration of Independence ????(....or maybe align themselves with the Mauritian Turf Club instead of Phumelela.......

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10 years 4 months ago

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Jokes aside,should there not be a universal method of measuring ability - the game needs more consistency to avoid controversy .....that doesn't do the games image any good!

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10 years 4 months ago

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It is difficult for the Handicappers. Are all the merit ratings absolutely right? No! What is happening here is each Trainer is being given the option in these lower hcp races to have a runner before 1 trainer can have 2/3/4.It does not happen in the higher mr races. Think of the owner of the slightly lower merit rated horse if he was eliminated every time. Here the trainer can choose and make sure every horse gets a run sometime. It also puts the better horses into the race from each stable when the trainer takes into account the merit ratings. In my yard, Night Lock has a mr or 65 and Discourse 60. They have raced together off these mr's and Discourse is the stronger runner. He runs today and Night Lock on the 6th if I have to choose, but for todays race at the weights and where they were drawn, Discourse the better runner. He must run. What is wrong with that?

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10 years 4 months ago

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Over the Air wrote: Pirates this crusade you have against Gold Circle is getting boring. Also get your facts straight before going on a tirade against these guys. I get it you have a beef with the boys after they sold Clairwood but keep it tidy, or rather just ignore it and tip us a few winners. It will be much better for your sanity.

ota rather stay out of a thread if you haven't got anything worthwhile to contribute..

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10 years 4 months ago - 10 years 4 months ago

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Craig Eudey wrote: It is difficult for the Handicappers. Are all the merit ratings absolutely right? No! What is happening here is each Trainer is being given the option in these lower hcp races to have a runner before 1 trainer can have 2/3/4.It does not happen in the higher mr races. Think of the owner of the slightly lower merit rated horse if he was eliminated every time. Here the trainer can choose and make sure every horse gets a run sometime. It also puts the better horses into the race from each stable when the trainer takes into account the merit ratings. In my yard, Night Lock has a mr or 65 and Discourse 60. They have raced together off these mr's and Discourse is the stronger runner. He runs today and Night Lock on the 6th if I have to choose, but for todays race at the weights and where they were drawn, Discourse the better runner. He must run. What is wrong with that?

In isolation ,nothing wrong with that.......... but if many races, on every day,are going to
be handled on a discretionary exception basis,nobody will know where they stand ...........sort of like now !! :sick:

Racing seems to have an aversion to having ,and sticking to, rules and regulations........doesn't instil much confidence!

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