Did Muzi cause Fouries fall ?

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Re: Re: Did Muzi cause Fouries fall ?

11 years 1 day ago
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JC I have been a race watcher for 30 years, I don't need a jockey or trainer to tell me when a jocks ridden like a appie

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Re: Re: Did Muzi cause Fouries fall ?

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I never said you did Hibs and respect your 30 years of experience as a "race watcher", but what do you know more about riding than a jockey or trainer does?

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Re: Re: Did Muzi cause Fouries fall ?

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Craig would it not be better to put the poor animal out of his misery if he's in pain....:(

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Re: Re: Did Muzi cause Fouries fall ?

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JC Wrote:
> I never said you did Hibs and respect your 30
> years of experience as a "race watcher", but what
> do you know more about riding than a jockey or
> trainer does?


More than most trainers

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Re: Re: Did Muzi cause Fouries fall ?

11 years 1 day ago
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Watched the race again

The only jock moving in is Muzi

A jock told me earlier


" Rule amongst jocks is always move out for room due to centrifugal Force on turns, horses will always run out, natural

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Re: Re: Did Muzi cause Fouries fall ?

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in my opinion (from average quality stream)

For me Muzi tries to take a gap that wasn't there causing jet explorer to first make contact with ice machine and then cuts in front of an unsettled horse who clips his heels.


@keniza
what you said doen't make sense to me

you compare a 50kg jock to 500kg horse, what are you tring to say? the jockey has no control of a horse? looked like muzi was in full control

You ask why Muzi would want to get in front of richard like there's no possible reason? being 3 wide in a race with no cover makes a big difference from being one off the rail.

you ask why would he deliberately shift in order to make richard's horse fall? those two points don't go together, he wanted to get in but i doubt he wanted to make Richard's horse fall

then you say anything else is unfounded. A lot of people here with a lot of experience seems to think otherwise.

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Re: Re: Did Muzi cause Fouries fall ?

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Centrifugal force is a force that pulls an object away from a curved path. A horse race is generally in a circle.

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Re: Re: Did Muzi cause Fouries fall ?

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Shocking riding full stop ! His intention was at all times to move in where there was absolutely no room. Kak dangerous riding.
After the race all I could think of JC was Conrad Wilkinson's fall and how did that end ?
Still shaking my head at the stipes report. Where do they get these moegoes ?

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Re: Re: Did Muzi cause Fouries fall ?

11 years 1 day ago
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GB he is on high powered pain killers at the moment so is comfortable. Don't want to put him down unless absolutely have to.

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Re: Re: Did Muzi cause Fouries fall ?

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Poor horse

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Re: Re: Did Muzi cause Fouries fall ?

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One last thought I can see now why posters like Titch no longer post there opinions on the forum as this topic wasn't a discussion it was a witch hunt with personal grudges being aired now I understand the meaning of "Let's Be Negative "

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Re: Re: Did Muzi cause Fouries fall ?

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Craig1974, where or why is it a witch hunt? A top horse is extremely badly injured and do you want it just washed under the carpet? Both horse and jockey could have been killed( Jet Explorer is not out of the woods yet). Ask yourself 1 question. If Muzi had stayed out and not looked and kept coming in, would the incident have happened? As said earlier, Muzi would have to ride the horse in otherwise the natural centrifugal force on the bend would take the horse out. Why would other jockeys in the race say they heard Richard shouting if it were not true?

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