Weinsteens attitude towards RA Members>:D

So Louis "what do you think the reason for the new decoder is....."

I guess you didn't know ?

Interesting of course that the overseas operators realised the negotiating power of the broadcast product.........................what is our lot waiting for?...........the local broadcast is many more times more negotiable.

Time to liase intelligently.................lol

RA

Vision & Mission

Published: 13 November 2012

To protect and support the interests of the sport of horseracing;


To protect and support the interests of the sport of horseracing in general and, in particular, the interests of the owners by working through the racing association board of directors and management to ensure that every aspect of the racing industry realises its greatest potential.

''ensure that every aspect of the racing industry realises its greatest potential includes form for all''

''it is in South African horse racings interest to develop Formgrids''


6. To liaise closely with the Racing Trust in respect of:

a) Ensuring that the objectives of the Deed of Trust are met - primarily the training, education, development and transformation of the industry with a view to ensuring the long-term viability and success of the sport of horseracing.
b) Ensuring the main business, and thus focus, of Phumelela remains horseracing.
c) Its funding requirements for specified projects.


''FORMGRIDS and horseracing are about data, that is racing information, after every race runs it becomes a result or a record of the race and it is with results that form study is achieved and that is what makes racing the game of skill it is,, Formgrids as Vee says takes handicapping one step futher, and he sings Formgrids praises for !0 mins and ive got it on disc if you wanna see it ,, so how on earth is it not the responsibility of the racing operators in charge at this time to help develop it ,, there is money put aside for these type of projects,,, why should so called racing men sit and watch as i suffer to help develop some aspect of racing to its fullest,,,

Charge subscription fees !

i will louisg, eventually, i only have one programmer and he has months of work to do before he can get the stuff written to do the subscription section working right, we try keep a good service for the industry going and all it would take is one small meeting by a few ''PAID'' people to agree to allocate some funds which dont come from threir own pockets it comes from punters and belongs to the game,, yet they sidestep the real issue and feed me bullshit and thats why i have no time or respect for them

Mr a i will gladly pay subs formgrids is a must have

There is another option....donations and published names of donators.....then when subs start donators get for free and others kak and betaal.....


i would donate

thank you Rockspider, all the guys will pay and so would i for such a helpful tool, i have to plug on until im in a position to charge,,,it will still take time ,,, but the fact of the matter is there is a resposibility upon those who recieve money as pay for working in the industry to fufill their duties ,,,, they cant say they dont like FORMGRIDS they offered to buy my product ,,,

RA

Vision & Mission

Published: 13 November 2012

To protect and support the interests of the sport of horseracing;


To protect and support the interests of the sport of horseracing in general and, in particular, the interests of the owners by working through the racing association board of directors and management to ensure that every aspect of the racing industry realises its greatest potential.

I use fiormgrids, great site but as for anything racing I shaln't subscribe. Woulld like to use a basic service tho.

MR A as soon as you charge you know yourself subscriptions will be nothing like the visitors you get ATM , it will be a crying Shame that your site will be lost to the public .

It's like when I do a FREE compo I can get 100+ entrants , charge r100 and were lucky to get 20

> louisg wrote

> Mister a, I love your site, it is an essential
> tool in my job.

i hear this all the time from racing people

louie i believe we are discussing racing matters with a like minded attitude in the hope of advancing aspects of the game, i think you would agree that one does not have to be in the employ of the HRA or Phumelela the RA or other offical bodies to do good for the game, in fact most of the creative ideas come from the outer circle,,,

my recent evident commitment to racing has been the slogging away, for no reward, in favor of supporting the growth of the game, by not accepting deals with bookmakers and there were many offers, to promote the tote,,, the Formgrids team have keep an essential tool going for the sport/industry without much significant industry help, there have been people who have helped but in a very limited way, 98% of the costs have come from my pocket,,


Graeme and Gc have of late have done a deal with FORMGRIDS and its been a BIG help but besides this there are people who have positions with duties to the game who should have been there to assist

we have persevered because as you and other proffisionals know, the value FORMGRIDS brings to the racing game,,, in light of the RA's own mission statement there is an obligation bestowed on the racing association's board of directors and management to ENSURE that every aspect of the racing industry realises its greatest potential so how can they not assist me with small funding in light of the fact that they also see the value Formgrids add coz they made me a cash offer to buy Formgrids



louie please correct me if my thinking is wrong

Mister a, I do not think that your thinking is wrong at all. And Hibs has an excellent point in terms of the decline in hits that you will receive once you go to subscriptions.
But, imho, one has to take the hand of cards and play them as best you can. Lets be objective -
1)Some people forgive and forget and others dont. Thats life. There was a time years back when there were long stories, guns and things. Some people remember this. 2) The fundamental principle is that your job is to sell your site to the powers that be, in Racing. Now surely, you cant sell by badmouthing your potential client, just as you cannot force such client to buy your product, by telling same client what their mission statement is and what said client should be doing and how bad said client is etc. I know many a great Salesperson and have done quite well at Sales myself. But I do not know any successful Sales person who has sold to the very people he criticises etc.

So, if the shoe fits, wear it, on this one. Maybe its time for a new look and fresh approach to what you are doing. And I say this with great respect, if for nothing else, then for your total dedication to the best product in racing. I have also been there, so I write with empathy. It took my mate Paulo to wake me up.

The road ahead, especially when one considers the post by Hibs, lies in a combination of the two - you need a free section for the public and a specialised section for subscribers. The secret will be in the definitions of the two sections, in terms of the info supplied.

The next step would be to grow it, thus creating value, such value which would make the site a "must have", even for the powers that be. Your subscribers, as they grow, will grow your database and again, imho, you will be surprised at who actually subscribes. And therein will lie great leverage.... which is the only language that is universally understood nowadays.....

Just my humble opinions.

louisg im glad you agree with my thinking,,,, and i note hibs's point but its not a worring aspect coz the big players who have spending power power will subscripe and thats who we want on the site

i dont have a problen with people who dont forget yet i laugh at the people who believe fables like the long stories of guns and things,, i would like to hear it one day,,, there are so many other untrue stories that i have heard and had a good laugh because i have long since stoped getting upset about these fabrications,,, The fundamental principle not hat i have to sell my site to the so called powers that be coz Formgrids already exsists and is being used extensivly, rather the fundamental principle is the so called powers that be wake up and do the right thing for racing in this regard as i have and give it DEVELOPEMENT assistance, coz it BENIFITS the game and i can badmouth them for standing in the shadows as i carry the can in this regard forward coz someone has to have the balls to do it,,,

if i understand your reference to Paulo then my point exactly FORMGRIDS needs a second programmer and this is what i refer to as DEVELOPEMENT assistance

We are leaving a basic Formgrids free and going to charge for FORMGRIDS PRO and SUPERPRO

the site already is a "must have", even for the powers that be,,,, ''there is none so blind as those who will not see''