Dubai betting.

Some early indications and forecast against some of the SA interests.

Rocks Off 20/1

Dianas Choice 10/1
Hunting Tower 12/1

Honour Devil and Lucky Find 9/2
Stubbs Art 16/1

Mourilyan 7/1
Front House 10/1

Asiatic Boy 5/2

Third Set, Stategic News, Jay Peg, Russian Sage all 10/1 and better.

Hope you find a few value bets?

Divide by to get SA prices Scotia

Rocks Off 20/1 - 10/1 Hollywood
Dianas Choice 10/1 - 5/1 Hollywood
Hunting Tower 12/1 - 7/1 Hollywood

Honour Devil and Lucky Find 9/2 - 3/1 and 28/10 Hollywood
Stubbs Art 16/1

Mourilyan 7/1 - 5/1 Hollywood
Front House 10/1 - 5/1 Hollywood

Asiatic Boy 5/2 - 14/10 Hollywood

Third Set, Stategic News, Jay Peg, Russian Sage all 10/1 and better. - best price Jaypeg at 7/1 the rest are less

Crying shame

Identical on world of Sport. My first comment was tounge and cheek as I had not seen local betting. It was a great call at least we now know what factor the local bookies use to devide prices by when pricing up SA horses abroad (2)

Alcaponee agree fully, absolute disgrace. Every South African trained horse opens up here well shorter than any other betting institution overseas.

To further your example comparing Ladbrokes to SA Bookmakers in Race 8 where 5 South African horses are running (Ladbrokes prices first):

3) Jay Pey 8/1 - 7/1
4) Imbongi 14/1 - 8/1
5) Strategic News 10/1 - 6/1
10) Russian Sage 7/1 - 5/1
14) Biarritz 25/1 - 16/1

To make matters worse there is only one horse in the race who is offered by SA Bookmakers at better odds than Ladbrokes, being 13) Vertigineux 7/1 - 8/1.

If the SA horses have to be priced up so short at least give us better odds on the non SA horses to balance the prices out.

Would love to see Betfair introduced here and watch the bookies squirm when we can bet or lay at 101% to 99%.

If you can get 10/1 or close to that on RUSSIAN SAGE i'd take it now, really fancy this 1 to win tonight.

This is probably more in line with actual, excludes exchanges.

Nad Al Sheba Betting Odds

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15:40 1m 1f Class 1 Al Bastakiya - Jazil (listed) (dirt) (3yo plus) - Win Market
Best Odds: Jose Adan (11/ , Paso De Gloria (9/2) , Medici (11/2) , Muy Ponderado (9) , I Am The Best (16) , Soy Libriano (16) - Others 8 or more
%: 108%
Non Runners: So Shiny (6 Run)


16:10 7f 101yrds Class 1 Meydan Classic - Mustanfar (turf) (3yo plus) - Win Market
Best Odds: City Style (6/4) , Liberation (4) , Naval Officer (11/2) , Balcarce Nov (14) , Rocks Off (16) , Classic Blade (20) - Others 20 or more
%: 115%
Non Runners: Esta Bailando (12 Run)


16:45 6f Class 1 Mahab Al Shimaal - Dayjur (group 3) (dirt) (3yo plus) - Win Market
Best Odds: Diabolical (7/4) , Big City Man (3) , Dianas Choice (9) , Gayego (10) , Hunting Tower (10) , Barbecue Eddie (16) - Others 40 or more
%: 111%
Non Runners: Redding Colliery (13 Run)


17:15 1m 0f Class 1 Burj Nahaar - Intidab (group 3) (dirt) (4yo plus) - Win Market
Best Odds: Honour Devil (7/2) , Lucky Find (7/2) , Green Coast (9) , Snaafy (10) , Don Renato (16) , Racecar Rhapsody (16) - Others 16 or more
%: 113%
Non Runners: Esquire, Estihdaaf (16 Run)


17:45 1m 4f Class 1 Dubai City Of Gold - Swain (group 2) (turf) (4yo plus) - Win Market
Best Odds: Purple Moon (9/2) , Mourilyan (13/2) , Macarthur (7) , King Of Rome ( , Front House (10) , Fiery Lad (14) - Others 14 or more
%: 120%
Non Runners: Drill Sergeant, Pearly King, Crime Scene, Love Galore (16 Run)


18:15 1m 2f Al Maktoum Challenge R3 - Invasor (group 2) (dirt) (4yo plus) - Win Market
Best Odds: Asiatic Boy (9/4) , Kirklees (5/2) , Happy Boy ( , Merchant Marine (10) , Tiz Now Tiz Then (12) , Art Of War (16) - Others 16 or more
%: 115%
Non Runners: Hearthstead Maison, Monte Alto, Bruges, Trust N Dustan (16 Run)


18:45 1m 1f Class 1 Jebel Hatta - Daaher (group 2) (turf) (4yo plus) - Win Market
Best Odds: Vodka (9/2) , Balius ( , Russian Sage ( , Third Set ( , Vertigineux ( , Jay Peg (10) - Others 10 or more
%: 134%
Non Runners: Furnace, Swop, Kachgai, Hello Morning (16 Run)

Until such time as bookmakers are eliminated, your racing will suffer.

Until such time as the horse owners and trainers band together to force changes, racing association (Phumelela, Gold Circle) and bookmakers wil keep the sport in hobbles.

Not only will they not promote and allow the sport to breathe, they will if allowed introduce and promote such competition as dog racing.

Bookies have only two things going for them: they can offer credit and they can do multiple bets (parlays, etc.).

If the Tote could figure out how to offer these same things, they can more than compete with bookmakers.

Agreed Barry, lovely win on Golden Idol, Congrats.

Good afternoon Barry, see you just had a winner at the Vaal, well done!
Wish I had had a bet with my bookie!

Actually, not to be obnoxious, but we won with both of our starters today, Trojan and Golden Idol. The latter still has a chance to make a name for himself. All credit to Geoff and Andre, as they have done a marvelous job with a true nut job of a gelding!

Would be nice to see Russian Sage complete the hat trick.