What have we done to South African Racing?

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Re: What have we done to South African Racing?

1 year 6 months ago

Muthi there are some incredibly knowledgeable and gifted racing people out there. Most would love to work and help the industry. But unless they are prepared to be 'corporate climbers' there is no way in hell they will even be asked for advice! Look at the firing of Andew Bon, a passionate and hard working videographer who speaks his mind.This is to the demise of racing. No one will make the hard decisions. Those in power are too frightened or inexperienced to call new shots. I also have knowledge of many decisions made over the last 30 years have greatly harmed racing. And I know who made those disastrous decisions.

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Re: What have we done to South African Racing?

1 year 6 months ago

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. ...and then again we see these so called corporate climbers that were involved directly and/or indirectly with Phum openly brown nosing Bortz & Co as the writing is on the wall at 4Q....Kantors man in particular.... and the NHRA may soon get a bit of a face-lift too.....wonder who will be stupid enough to walk into thaT sh1t show....as I believe that it was severely compromised when a Jooste backed candidate got in without the nessisary background checks.....:oops:

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Re: What have we done to South African Racing?

1 year 6 months ago

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....not to belabor the point but again today there is no betting coverage on the local Turffies meeting at Zeturf...which means that there is no demand for our product there. Yesterday they covered selected races from Kenilworth and understandably so...not the 1st race(work riders) nor the 3rd 4th and 5th but did for races 6 through 9... as there is an interest and demand....not that I am a Zeturf acc holder but certain info there is important to me....but the alarm bells should be ringing for those that believe that all is OK .. as if it were not for what is happening on the Cape...our racing is in a death spiral...

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5 months 3 weeks ago

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......it is no wonder I as never considered for any position in local racing.....I would have worn out my whistle...the rot will not stop....oh my

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Re: What have we done to South African Racing?

5 months 3 weeks ago

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Premier Gateway International (PGI) is a licensed totalisator operating from the Isle of Man since 2006. PGI is currently owned by Tabcorp Holdings Ltd, having previously been jointly owned by Phumelela Gaming & Leisure Ltd in South Africa and Tabcorp Holdings Ltd in Australia under a joint venture arrangement between 2012 and 2020.

.....looks like we have outsourced the tote to this familiar mob.....They claim to provide:

Resilient hub connectivity, integrations and other business to business (B2B) services
Access to international totalisator pools for premium & high volume customers
Hosting and commingling of totalisator pools
Retail & on-course terminals
Innovation and development of pari-mutuel products
Consultation and partnerships on commercial solutions

.....seems like they had a few teething problems today.....or maybe just bit off more than most knew....

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5 months 2 weeks ago

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We have some really good racing people on this group so a question, are dividends being manipulated afterthe start of a race?

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Re: What have we done to South African Racing?

5 months 2 weeks ago

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the good wrote:

We have some really good racing people on this group so a question, are dividends being manipulated afterthe start of a race?

Put the evidence up

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Re: What have we done to South African Racing?

5 months 2 weeks ago

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Bob Brogan wrote:

the good wrote:

We have some really good racing people on this group so a question, are dividends being manipulated afterthe start of a race?

Put the evidence up

....not so easy to do when the tote info cannot be displayed in real time....or even displayed at all....

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5 months 2 weeks ago

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Imo .... the PERCPTION is that dividends are being manipulated - so a lot of racing / betting folks either find an alternative form of gambling, or just keep their money in their pockets; I think that its up to the 'powers-that-be' (whoever they are) to change the PERCEPTION, otherwise pools will dwindle even more ...
The other topic is the debacles (more than one) that happened at the Vaal on Tuesday; the fact is the ambulance was late - and I assume an investigation will be held in more detail (and if the Service Provider was at fault, a decision needs to be taken if they need to replaced); the other fact is that 3 jocks fell - 2 in the pull-up area (I assume this will be investigated as well as to the the cause); the other was apparently caused by the filly either slipping, or some other mishap - who knows - Smoke and Mirrors ....

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Re: What have we done to South African Racing?

5 months 2 weeks ago

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It would be great if there was clarity on how the Tote determines the favorite for races in terms of scratched horses. Too often we see joint favs at the close and then only 1 used regarding scratchings.

It muddles things even more when HB (Punters challenge) has a different fav to the tote, especially when both horses closed as joint favs.

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Re: What have we done to South African Racing?

5 months 2 weeks ago

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Frodo wrote:

Imo .... the PERCPTION is that dividends are being manipulated - so a lot of racing / betting folks either find an alternative form of gambling, or just keep their money in their pockets; I think that its up to the 'powers-that-be' (whoever they are) to change the PERCEPTION, otherwise pools will dwindle even more ...
The other topic is the debacles (more than one) that happened at the Vaal on Tuesday; the fact is the ambulance was late - and I assume an investigation will be held in more detail (and if the Service Provider was at fault, a decision needs to be taken if they need to replaced); the other fact is that 3 jocks fell - 2 in the pull-up area (I assume this will be investigated as well as to the the cause); the other was apparently caused by the filly either slipping, or some other mishap - who knows - Smoke and Mirrors ....
Thank you Sir,think Mr Muthiman also cited the Isle of Man ,now how exactly are they involved as this commingling partnership is resulting in a lot of confusion around dividends,perfect example not so long ago 100/1 wins in Cape town in a big field and quartet paid around R400 .

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Re: What have we done to South African Racing?

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Imo .... the PERCPTION is that dividends are being manipulated - so a lot of racing / betting folks either find an alternative form of gambling, or just keep their money in their pockets; I think that its up to the 'powers-that-be' (whoever they are) to change the PERCEPTION, otherwise pools will dwindle even more ...
The other topic is the debacles (more than one) that happened at the Vaal on Tuesday; the fact is the ambulance was late - and I assume an investigation will be held in more detail (and if the Service Provider was at fault, a decision needs to be taken if they need to replaced); the other fact is that 3 jocks fell - 2 in the pull-up area (I assume this will be investigated as well as to the the cause); the other was apparently caused by the filly either slipping, or some other mishap - who knows - Smoke and Mirrors ....
Thank you Sir,think Mr Muthiman also cited the Isle of Man ,now how exactly are they involved as this commingling partnership is resulting in a lot of confusion around dividends,perfect example not so long ago 100/1 wins in Cape town in a big field and quartet paid around R400 .

.....ah yes that high flying mystery phantom punter that cannot resist playing in our piss poor pools.....