USA next President Donald or Joe?

Must single out our colleague TNaicker here, who I KNOW believes what Twitter and other platforms have done to Trump and his supporters is not right or strangling freedom of speech. Well if Trump and his regime, including the Trump supporters on ABC, can invoke the First Amendment and FORCE these platform to re-instate Trump and his supporters, that is not Democracy, it would be Socialism, the thing they afraid Joe Biden will turn the country into.

These are private companies, NO Government can tell them what to do or who they allow to use their platforms.

By the way, you see many big businesses have withdrawn their funding to a few of those Republicans who objected to the electoral count.

CnC 306 wrote: Moves to have Giuliani disbarred. All falling apart at the seams for the white supremacists and their fans. 8 days to go before the world becomes a better place.

Who barring Trump would use this inept excuse for a Jurist - He won't need a license to practice as I'm certain any reasonable person would not hire this loser even if he worked pro-Bono - He should be taken to a facility where he and Sydney Powell can get professional help - It's terrible that people with such obvious mental problems do not get the help they need and just wonder around venting disillusion to anyone who will listen - Years ago people like this would get the psychiatric help they need- I do hope the new regime helps them

Giuliani needs to be disbarred, he is delusional. They should put him and Melissa Carone on the same remote island and see who drives who up the palm tree :-

bayern wrote: Must single out our colleague TNaicker here, who I KNOW believes what Twitter and other platforms have done to Trump and his supporters is not right or strangling freedom of speech. Well if Trump and his regime, including the Trump supporters on ABC, can invoke the First Amendment and FORCE these platform to re-instate Trump and his supporters, that is not Democracy, it would be Socialism, the thing they afraid Joe Biden will turn the country into.

These are private companies, NO Government can tell them what to do or who they allow to use their platforms.

By the way, you see many big businesses have withdrawn their funding to a few of those Republicans who objected to the electoral count.

@bayern...never presume to know some-one...

I do believe that any private company can align their practices in accordance with the law prevailing at the time...so if they choose not to have DJT or others on their platforms, and it accords with the prevailing law, who am I to rail against them...it will have implications though and those that are maligned by such decisions (and not yet kicked off / banned) will leave taking a slice of income with them...I guess these companies have done the numbers and are fine with the decision they have made...

The bigger concern is the arbitrary manner in which the decisions were made...some "luminaries", who have said (and done) much worse, are still on those platforms...who knows who comes next for not being in alignment with the prevailing narrative...and whenever you wish something negative upon some-one else, always consider if you would want to be the receiving end...

I'm only responding on this thread because @bayern singled me out...I have no more interest in this thread as I have long since stated all that I wanted to and if the "other side" still believe as they do, I can do no more...

The Democrats, MSM, Hollywood and the rest of the alphabet soup "won" (got DJT out) and the consequences will flow...the current smug arrogance will only last so long until the "broad church" (ANC term) Democrats of competing causes strive to achieve most worthy cause status to access the material benefits that flow from that...in the end, this it what it is about for many people...money...

I have far more important things to attend to...mother in law (diabetic and in ther late 60's) diagnosed with the Chinese coronavirus yesterday so our thoughts and prayers and focus (in terms of medical care) is on her...we can have our disagreements here as we try to convince each other of the righteousness of what we believe but those opinions are worth nothing if we don't have our health...

So stay safe and healthy...wishing all fellow Clanners a good day...we don't know if it will be our last so stay in the now and treat all life with the respect it deserves...

TN, sorry to hear of your mother-in-law, may she have the strength to overcome this terrible virus.

The reason Trump has been banned, he touts a perpetual lie without a scintilla of regret, which has divided and damaged the country.

bayern wrote: TN, sorry to hear of your mother-in-law, may she have the strength to overcome this terrible virus.

The reason Trump has been banned, he touts a perpetual lie without a scintilla of regret, which has divided and damaged the country.

Many thanks...pre-existing conditions and age so we a bit concerned...

Your "scintilla" is a lot like BHO's (in)famous "smidgen" and we know that that is proving to be untrue with the passage of time but that is a discussion for another day...

Country was always divided...two sides so convinced in the righteousness of their beliefs...and will get more divided as, now, one side tries to put the boot in because they are in the ascendancy...just setting the standard for what is to come when the other side regains the ascendancy...and it will happen because there are too many irreconcilable factions in the "broad church"...tit for tit and eye for an eye will eventually make anyone blind...

As for damage...that is to come...as we have arrived at this point:

Nikita Khrushchev predicted about the Soviet Union, “We will take America without firing a shot. We do not have to invade the U.S. We will destroy you from within.” Guess he was wrong because the Soviet Union didn't accomplish it but the Chinese did...

Stay safe and healthy...hopefully make a few cents at Scottsville...

@TN, all the best to your mum-in-law.

@TN. All the best with your mother in law and to any other clan mbers in similar difficult circumstances.

Bring out the Kleenex, time to shed the tears...........................

Guys, the reason the USA is divided, is because Trump and his supporters won't admit the election was never stolen, he just lost. To the Trump supporters on ABC, do you believe the election was stolen/rigged/fraudulent?

Despite many Court cases (later) where Trump appointed Judges have thrown these cases out, in most cases, due to a lack of evidence, Trump Blames the Courts/Judges for not having "courage". He accused his VP, Pence, of also not having "courage" to dismiss the electoral count. We tend to laugh at what goes on in Africa, Pakistan, etc, unfortunately, some don't want to see it for what it is - a failed coup.

What the Dems are saying, and believe it or not, those Republicans with a spine, if there are no consequences to be faced, this Nut might still try another coup before Biden's inauguration, he is so unhinged.

More importantly, if Impeached for a second time, he cannot run for President again. The more long term view, anyone who doesn't like the outcome of an Election will attempt the same thing, because Trump faced no consequences for his actions. This is not about putting the boot in, because one side has the ascendency, it is not tit for tat. The lead Republican, Mitch MacConnel, will vote to have Trump impeached.

The person who planted the seed of doubt, was Trump himself - "if i lose to Biden, the election is rigged" - remember that? His own statisticians fueled the lame argument further by asking how is it that Trump got more votes than in 2016, and still lost - well he did, Biden got 7 million more.

Until such time the Right acknowledge the election was lost fair and square, the will never be a united country.

@Bayern, your post implies that there was unity in the USA prior 3rd November.

Furthermore, are you suggesting that the conservatives should accept the election results, like how the dems accepted Trumps?

Lionel wrote: @Bayern, your post implies that there was unity in the USA prior 3rd November.

Furthermore, are you suggesting that the conservatives should accept the election results, like how the dems accepted Trumps?

Lionel, there is a lot of ambiguity in what you are saying.

Hillary Clinton, conceded the very next day - if you confused by conceding, you accepting that you lost, or am i misunderstanding? The Democrats and their supporters never publicly said they would NEVER ACCEPT Trump as their President, and stormed the Capitol - if their supporters did, point me to the day that happened.

The message from the Left to their supporters was, we can't have Trump in power for another 4 years, so go out and vote. Did they dislike him, yes, even more so as time went on - that's just how politics works. There was never bloodshed and attempted coups.