YOU BE THE JUDGE ON SOON!

Yoh, Yoh, Yoh Girls! The truth shall set you free.
After watching the latest YBTJ show twice, pen in hand,and reading all these posts, we girls can be sure of our observation that when God made SAF Racing Men, She was watching the Goon show.
Mr Bruss confirmed in clearest terms that there are lies, damn lies and statistics. Has India staged thoroughbred racing for more than 100 years? What horses did South Africa breed in the 1700's? Mr Bruss also highlighted the pathetic earnings per runner plight of South African owners. He blamed the bookmakers for this but said nothing when Mr Faull asked why bookmakers don't pay the same share of their turnover to the fiscus as the tote does.

At one point Mr Bruss told us about the good work of certain commissions and committees. What good work, Mr Bruss? Why are we being kept alive by a big favor from the Receiver in the form of the world's lowest tax, and of course, betting on soccer?

Mr Bruss, no-one ever built a monument to a committee. Surely we need ONE professional market survey (not Mr Faull's silly impromptu efforts), and ONE brilliant marketing strategist, a proper guru.
Mr Bruss should know that a camel is a horse designed by a committee. The business world acknowledges that "70% of advertising spent is ineffectual and ineffective." and that successful marketing IS rocket science.
Sorry, Mr de Kock, your cheap shot at Mr Faull when he felt that the debate should be about long term prosperity of SOHR and not short term personal interest, reduced the value of what you had to say thereafter. And why did you not explain how Australia had developed a "culture of horseracing".?

Gambit!damnbit! Can you imagine our rugby commentators being ignorant about their greats of yesteryear? Sies Mr Bruss and Mr Andrews! A serious indictment of your professionalism.

Mr Faull is adamant that the salvation of our archaic, failed methodology demands a big investment in marketing. He sees "knowledge of the sport and passion by excellence" as the only way.
He objects to the wholesale exodus of the country's best horses.
Very idealistic, but very naive, Mr Faull!
Do you honestly believe that the white, male colonialists will ever place the long term interest of South Africa before short term personal gain?
They have been "asset stripping" for 3 centuries! Jong,wake up and smell the polluted coffee!
So girls, it is time to chop!
Well done Mr Harrison. Your hard facts about the value of equine excellence on Champions Cup day win you a reprieve for life.
We'll save Mr Faull from "asset stripping" because he keeps trying to drag us out of the 19th century.
For the rest, your assets must be stripped. Chop chop - Mr Bruss, Mr de Kock and Mr Andrews.
And of course Mr Goodman - this show must have been pre recorded because Kevin Petersen stuck his boot right in your big mouth, just as Dunford did a few years back. Please, Mr Lipps, stick to tipping winners - you can't compare proven Galileo to unproven Archipenko! Don't you know that the Japs spent R360 million on unbeaten Lammtarra? Worthless 6 years later!
This wasn't a debate. It was an argument between 2 colonialists protecting their own pockets and 2 purists living in a lekker dream that the SORH has a right to prosper to the benefits of the thousands who contribute to its limp survival - all of grooms, farm hands, owners, trainers, breeders, jockeys, vets, journalists, etc,etc.
Of course we need proper horses to get our adrenalin pumping. You feeble SAF men couldn't make any pumps thump if you tried,
Love and kisses to Don and Garrick. You can run my family business any day.
Mumtaz Mahal

Agg, this sexist thing is old and smelly and women in racing are either self serving or useless or someone's assistant. It's moss lekker to take shots after 2 viewings, not so easy in the hot seat. Remember we still juvenile when it comes to public debate in racing in SA. The only running Don and Garrick will be doing is AWAY!

well well Mumtaz Mahal i see your gelding clippers are out again...if i can assume your family business is racing, be prepared to see heads roll under my reign, I take no prisoners!! prominent figure heads at that too! time to chop chop chop, off with their heads¬!

Hacker, not so fast there - public debate is juvenile in SAF racing you are quite right but the least of the industry's worries. What is your take on the matter at hand.

Surely you agree at least MMahal, sexist or not puts your perception of women being 'either self serving, useless or someone's assistant'to bed - MM has more balls than any of the men out there putting her point across as clear as a silver bullet to the heart! Puts them under the microscope she does!!

MM - respect from me,you are fearless! If the men are too dim to say it like it is, bring it on - can racing afford to waste any more time on diversions and about the bush beating!!

Well MM, dare I say, lots of crit, but hardly a suggestion on how to improve things, should we be singing 'Just like a woman'?

Mumtaz Mahal, you didn't mention that Lammtarra stood at an initial fee of 30,000 pounds. That would have priced him out of a South African market, even if he eventually became a failure. Likewise Archipenko has won a Grade I, and is by Kingmambo out of a Nijinsky mare who won a Breeder's Cup race. He's going to be sort after overseas so why should the owners lose out twice, first by standing him here for a lesser amount and getting inferior mares. I can hear the doomsday merchants regarding putting money before SA's long-term racing health, but how much good blood will potentially come into SA thanks to the money earned by Archipenko's stud career? I'd bet plenty if he is a success and it would in fact be better for SA's long-term racing health to stand him outside the country.

Regarding how Aus gained a racing culture, it's obviously because they were purely a British colony and by far the majority of people that live there are British.

Regarding Gambit, if you are suggesting Bruss had never heard of him you are laughably wrong, he was just unaware of his timeform rating.