Lucky Dude's Pick Six Experiment...

MR 61 handicap with an average age of the field of 6yo- run it 10 times you will get 10 different results

Your jackpot legs cost R400 and would have returned R8k. When you do this for real, you should consider also taking the JPot

Thanks PeterD, I really enjoy your input.

PeterD wrote: Your jackpot legs cost R400 and would have returned R8k. When you do this for real, you should consider also taking the JPot

Please can someone explain this thing called dutching.....I do apologies in advance for my ignorance, but new to this game......and thank you to all, in advance who do explain "dutching"

Dutching is backing more than one horse in a race to make an equal amount of profit if any of your selections win. You still can lose though as if you back six horses in a ten horse field the other four you omitted can win. Also note betting percentages and the odds of your selections are very important.

rhodieace wrote: Please can someone explain this thing called dutching.....I do apologies in advance for my ignorance, but new to this game......and thank you to all, in advance who do explain "dutching"

One takes several bets on several respective runners in the same race but with the difference that the profit is the same no matter what the result is.

This is only assuming that there cannot be any other result which is not in your selection. In reality this is impossible as the bookies round the total of their books to a probability over 100% so there is always at least one or several runners which cannot be dutched.

However, if you are brave, you can brass, say, the favourite and dutch the rest of the field. This is what the legendary "Ductch" Schultz did in the USA in the 30's. He hired an accountant who was very good and quick with numbers, got to "fix" the favourite and "dutched" the rest of the field. He made the same profit per race irrespective what the the result was. It was also easier for Schultz to this in the 30's because betting taxes were not around then. Today one will be compelled to eliminate one more or several more runners from the dutching basis.

Short of explaining the arithmetic calculating your bet size respective to your runners' odds you can find dutching calculators on the web. www.oddschecker.com/betting-tools/dutching-calculator

Hope this helps.

and: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Schultz

www.aceodds.com/what-is-dutching.html

rhodieace, who's signature is on that Liverpool cap?

Just to add

Lucky's P6 today outlay was R100. He was standing with four horses with 2% with minimum win of R3600 to R14000 .

The other six horses in the betting at that time when I worked it out to dutch was around these prices which he never have

4/1
12.5/1
12.5/1
25/1
25/1
66/1

So of you wagered altogether R1500 on the dutching you would have made R1900 profit less the R100 P6 perm = R1800 profit. What I normally do is wager alittle more on the outsiders for a bigger return if the longshot wins if I am standing in the Jackpot or P6 although equal profit scenario becomes slightly skewed.

I'm learning so much from this thread. I hope you guys are.

Lucky Dube ..wouldn't think anyone would get the answer so I haven't asked if anyone be able to figure it out......it is Tiger Woods signature......I'm hoping to get Stevie G and Suarez either side of Tigers......

It was supposed to say Lucky Dude.....my apologies sir...at 60 these things happen more often than not..

One last thing on the dutching. If you have a good relationship with your bookie you can ask him to give you one consolidated price on all of your spread of fancies - you obviously profit the same regardless what wins within the dutch. It is not difficult to calculate this price but, unfortunately, the clerks employed with most of the corporate bookies have not been given a mandate to grant you this consolidated price.