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I posted his thoughts on another thread pirates

Trainer said all systems go

TNaicker wrote: Would horse have continued to shorten had punters, generally, known that horse was on antibiotics and missed a few days work ?? This information would have been of greater value before a race rather than in mitigation after a below par run...on exposed form, horse being a few MR points better than the others, was justifiably short / favourite...

Or was this another run to get the horse spot on for Guineas ??

Always greatly for any feedback received even though information is valuable before an event rather than after...

Agreed ..............and the solution is obvious ..................should be a regulatory requirement to report all medication and work interruption ..............it affects the form more than blinkers ,alumites etc ..........................not that our lot have a clue!

I am off course as impressed with Mr van Vuuren coming on here and explaining what went wrong, as everyone else; got to raise the question though.............and it's been debated many times before.............whose responsibility is it to inform the 'general public' of 'mishaps' in the preparation of 'big' horses.................I for one, had I known beforehand of the 'interruption in training schedule' would not have been nearly as bullish about the horse's chances..................instead (as published by bob), we were not told of anything untoward in the statement posted during the week............so when exactly did the interruption occur.................was it before the 'all is well' statement, or after................if 'after' then I can almost accept the explanation (although in the interest of the 'general public', he might have considered issuing a follow-up statement) ..............if before, then surely the 'interrupted prep' should have been mentioned .................even if he thought it did not really affect the horse's chances..........just lay out the facts and let the 'general public' make up their own minds..................

As to the race, imo (and it is Only My Opinion).................the horse was not 100%...........the track or the 'way the race was run' may not have been ideal, but for me taking account his run when pushing Noah From Goah all the way and leaving Abishiri in his dust, he should never have been beaten by a horse rated more than 30 points (15 lengths ??) below him .............

Having said all that, I am not blaming Mr van Vuuren for running the horse - and I accept that in his opinion the horse was ready to win.............what I am saying is that in an ideal world the 'general public' should have been made aware of the fact that the horse had an interrupted prep.............unfortunately we are not living in an ideal world and this type of thing has happened many times before and will happen many times again in the future ..........these are the kind of risks one takes when gambling on animals made of flesh and blood ...........nobody is forcing anyone to take part ............ if you can't stand the heat ..... :ohmy:

It is this (lack of) important information that results in those in the know taking money off the hands of those not in the know...

On form and based on betting and information communicated by stable, horse would have been possible banker for many in BiPot and PA...all those who did this have tossed their tickets in the bin and those who had more information (and therefore took other horses in exotic bets) (unfairly) benefitted...

Where money is involved, it must be a requisite that full information be made available to all participating in the event with the only uncertainty being the whims of the horse on the day...it is akin to insider trading, which to my knowledge is not allowed in the investment arena so why is it allowed and tolerated in racing ??

Whilst Equine Herpes Virus (EHV ) remains uncontrolled in SA due to NHRA failing to make vaccination against this disease mandatory, this is what will happen.
NHRA have published the findings of the study and clearly show that EHV exists in the herd.
Will the Vets, who make Millions on treating EHV vote for mandatory vaccinations ?
Will the Breeders, who tried a few months ago to pass the cost of microchipping on to purchasers of yearlings vote for mandatory vaccinations of foals ?

NO THEY WILL NOT !
This is why the Veterinary department at NHRA should do their job !

.....often prevention is better than cure.....supplimenting lysine in the equine athlete's diet goes along way to address this problem.....

How Can Lysine Supplementation Help Treat Equine Herpesvirus Infections?By Dr. Bryan Waldridge · May 20, 2011

Lysine is an essential amino acid for horses. In cats and humans, lysine supplementation has been prescribed for the treatment of herpesvirus infections, which can cause keratitis (inflammation of the cornea of the eye) or dermatitis. Shedding of feline herpesvirus in nasal secretions was decreased in cats supplemented with L-lysine, compared to cats that did not receive L-lysine. Equine herpesvirus (EHV) infections are associated with abortion, neurologic disease, respiratory tract infections, coital exanthema, or keratitis. Equine herpesvirus-1 (EHV-1) infections can cause severe neurologic disease, and supplemental lysine has been suggested as a potential preventive or treatment for EHV-1 encephalomyelitis based on its use in other species.


In humans, the success of lysine supplementation depends on the dose administered, the amount of lysine and arginine in the patient’s diet, and how well an individual absorbs dietary lysine.
The amino acid arginine is required by herpesviruses for replication. Compared to the proteins that make up the cells of its infected host animal, the proteins produced by herpesviruses contain more arginine and less lysine. Lysine appears to antagonize arginine metabolism by:

1. Competing with arginine for reabsorption in the tubules of the kidney. This promotes the loss of arginine in the urine.

2. Increasing activity of the enzyme arginase, which breaks down arginine.

3. Supplemental dietary lysine competes with arginine for intestinal absorption. The more lysine in the diet, the higher the chance that it will be absorbed rather than arginine.

4. Increased lysine competes with arginine for entry into cells, similar to dietary absorption.

In humans, several different doses of lysine have been investigated for the treatment of herpesvirus infections. The success of lysine supplementation depends on the dose administered, the amount of lysine and arginine in the patient's diet, and how well an individual absorbs dietary lysine.

The average daily maintenance requirement of lysine in an adult, 1100-pound (500-kg) horse is 27.1 grams. Apparent lysine digestibility in horses is reported to range from 64-79%. In horses, a dose of 15 grams of L-lysine by mouth every 12 hours has been suggested for EHV-1 infections. L-lysine supplementation may be beneficial for at-risk horses that have been exposed during an EHV-1 outbreak. The replacement of arginine by lysine in cells is gradual, and lysine supplementation is less likely to be effective in horses that are already showing clinical signs of neurologic disease.

References:

Gaby, A.R. Natural remedies for Herpes simplex. 2005. Alternative Medicine Review. 11:93-101.

Goehring, L.S., and D.P. Lunn. 2009. Equine herpesvirus myeloencephalopathy. In: Robinson, N.E., and K.A. Sprayberry (eds). Current Therapy in Equine Medicine. 6th ed. Saunders, St. Louis, MO. 177-181.

My concern would be the lack of media information on ANY horse that is clearly fancied having a hiccup in preparation.
The rule of thumb as I know it, is a week off for every day a horse is sick and forcing it often leads to problems compounding and indifferent form.
The well being of the horse is paramount, particularly one with Gr1 form and class and dissemination of such vital information prior to an event such as this, VITAL.

Anything else just contributes to the conspiracy theories and racing is bent believers.

Kudos for the post race information and transparency.

EquinePedigrees wrote: My concern would be the lack of media information on ANY horse that is clearly fancied having a hiccup in preparation.
The rule of thumb as I know it, is a week off for every day a horse is sick and forcing it often leads to problems compounding and indifferent form.
The well being of the horse is paramount, particularly one with Gr1 form and class and dissemination of such vital information prior to an event such as this, VITAL.

Anything else just contributes to the conspiracy theories and racing is bent believers.

Kudos for the post race information and transparency.

Media maybe .................but regulatory would be better.....................that would change the dissemination from optional to obligatory ........................a much more reliable situation!