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To stop using magic
Australian champion trainer Peter Moody faces a three-year ban after Racing Victoria revealed that Lidari (Fr) (Acclamation {GB}) had tested positive to prohibited dosages of cobalt following his runner-up perf
ormance in the G1 Turnbull S. last October. The urine sample taken on the OTI Racing colorbearer was tested at the Chem Centre in Western Australia and confirmed by the Hong Kong Jockey Club laboratory, Racing Victoria detailed on their website, also confirming that the investigation was still ongoing.
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Australian champion trainer Peter Moody faces a three-year ban after Racing Victoria revealed that Lidari (Fr) (Acclamation {GB}) had tested positive to prohibited dosages of cobalt following his runner-up perf
ormance in the G1 Turnbull S. last October. The urine sample taken on the OTI Racing colorbearer was tested at the Chem Centre in Western Australia and confirmed by the Hong Kong Jockey Club laboratory, Racing Victoria detailed on their website, also confirming that the investigation was still ongoing.
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That's taken the gloss off Black Caviar for me.The stigma is there and he's a dongle for doing it.He is not the most popular trainer over here,big mouth and a serious lack respect for overseas stables.
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Here we go again....trainers with limited knowledge of chemistry trying to be magicians....
Cobalt is classed as a heavy metal and although it is present in some proteins we eat mainly in meat as cattle are fed tiny dosages through feed trace elements ....it is highly toxic at concentrated levels.....Cobalt chloride is the salt that is most commonly used to get cobalt into the dietary system of most mammals......Cobalt chloride makes the body believe that it is not receiving enough oxygen, which results in the body producing more EPO, the hormone responsible for controlling red blood cell production.
Excess EPO production has been linked with the deaths of several athletes and cyclists since the 1980s.
Cobalt is classed as a heavy metal and although it is present in some proteins we eat mainly in meat as cattle are fed tiny dosages through feed trace elements ....it is highly toxic at concentrated levels.....Cobalt chloride is the salt that is most commonly used to get cobalt into the dietary system of most mammals......Cobalt chloride makes the body believe that it is not receiving enough oxygen, which results in the body producing more EPO, the hormone responsible for controlling red blood cell production.
Excess EPO production has been linked with the deaths of several athletes and cyclists since the 1980s.
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Australia: The doping scandal to rock Australian racing has escalated with the revelations that two further leading trainers have had their horses return positive tests for the prohibited drug cobalt.
Mark Kavanagh
A day after it was announced Black Caviar’s trainer Peter Moody was the subject of a drugs investigation, Mark Kavanagh and Danny O'Brien will also face Racing Victoria stewards after the findings.
Like Moody, Kavanagh, who won the 2009 Melbourne Cup with Shocking, has had one runner in his care test positive, while an inspection of O’Brien’s stable returned three positive samples.
Cobalt has similar effects to the blood doping drug EPO, an infamous substance once widespread in endurance road cycling, with Racing Victoria saying the administration of the sustance can "allow a horse to perform at a peak level for longer without the onset of fatigue".
The three trainers face bans of up to three years if found to have deliberately doped their horses.
In a statement, Kavanagh said: “This has come as a complete shock to me as I have always placed great emphasis on integrity and operating within the rules of racing.
“We are, unfortunately, not the only stable in this situation. I am co-operating fully with the Racing Victoria Integrity Services Department to investigate how this could occur, and hopefully we will resolve the matter as soon as possible.”
Kavanagh’s positive sample came after Magicool won a Listed race at Flemington in October on the same day Moody’s Lidari tested positive after running second in the Group 1 Turnbull Stakes.
O’Brien’s three horses include the Qatar Racing-owned Caravan Rolls On, who tested positive before finishing eighth in the Lexus Stakes.
The trainer expressed similar sentiments to Kavanagh and added it could not have happened through normal feeding and treatment practices.
“We are examining everything and our vet is going through everything he does,” he told Racing.com.
“Obviously it is a cluster and maybe something will come to light.”
Racing Victoria chief steward Terry Bailey said in a statement: “Following receipt of Racing Analytical Services Limited’s report we are conducting investigations into the circumstances that led to the elevated levels of cobalt being detected in race-day samples taken from horses from the Moody, Kavanagh and O’Brien stables.
“It is now our priority to gather all the facts to determine the circumstances surrounding each case. We will not be putting a timeline on the completion of this process and will not be commenting on the specifics of each case while our investigations continue.
“Our investigations will determine whether any or all of the trainers will be charged with a breach of the rules of racing. They have the presumption of innocence and are free to continue racing at this time.”
Mark Kavanagh
A day after it was announced Black Caviar’s trainer Peter Moody was the subject of a drugs investigation, Mark Kavanagh and Danny O'Brien will also face Racing Victoria stewards after the findings.
Like Moody, Kavanagh, who won the 2009 Melbourne Cup with Shocking, has had one runner in his care test positive, while an inspection of O’Brien’s stable returned three positive samples.
Cobalt has similar effects to the blood doping drug EPO, an infamous substance once widespread in endurance road cycling, with Racing Victoria saying the administration of the sustance can "allow a horse to perform at a peak level for longer without the onset of fatigue".
The three trainers face bans of up to three years if found to have deliberately doped their horses.
In a statement, Kavanagh said: “This has come as a complete shock to me as I have always placed great emphasis on integrity and operating within the rules of racing.
“We are, unfortunately, not the only stable in this situation. I am co-operating fully with the Racing Victoria Integrity Services Department to investigate how this could occur, and hopefully we will resolve the matter as soon as possible.”
Kavanagh’s positive sample came after Magicool won a Listed race at Flemington in October on the same day Moody’s Lidari tested positive after running second in the Group 1 Turnbull Stakes.
O’Brien’s three horses include the Qatar Racing-owned Caravan Rolls On, who tested positive before finishing eighth in the Lexus Stakes.
The trainer expressed similar sentiments to Kavanagh and added it could not have happened through normal feeding and treatment practices.
“We are examining everything and our vet is going through everything he does,” he told Racing.com.
“Obviously it is a cluster and maybe something will come to light.”
Racing Victoria chief steward Terry Bailey said in a statement: “Following receipt of Racing Analytical Services Limited’s report we are conducting investigations into the circumstances that led to the elevated levels of cobalt being detected in race-day samples taken from horses from the Moody, Kavanagh and O’Brien stables.
“It is now our priority to gather all the facts to determine the circumstances surrounding each case. We will not be putting a timeline on the completion of this process and will not be commenting on the specifics of each case while our investigations continue.
“Our investigations will determine whether any or all of the trainers will be charged with a breach of the rules of racing. They have the presumption of innocence and are free to continue racing at this time.”
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Sometime I think trainers use the excuse "but it's not illegal " it`s when "it's used " that's illegal too much ?
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What would be interesting is the levels of Cobalt in the Bloodstream.
harness officials threshhold for the drug set it at 200 micrograms per litre, a level some veterinary experts believe is generous.
In Hong Kong the threshhold is 100 micrograms per litre.
The positive tests uncovered in NSW have revealed horses with levels exceeding 3500.
What is SA policy on Cobalt cloride if caught??
harness officials threshhold for the drug set it at 200 micrograms per litre, a level some veterinary experts believe is generous.
In Hong Kong the threshhold is 100 micrograms per litre.
The positive tests uncovered in NSW have revealed horses with levels exceeding 3500.
What is SA policy on Cobalt cloride if caught??
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....adding cobalt chloride to horse feed also stimulates metabolism.....however the side effects are liver damage and renal failure....the chemical is easily obtainable as my 1st chemistry set had it as a way to make invisible ink.... :woohoo:
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Cobalt isn’t listed in the 15 pages of drugs published by the Association of Racing Commissioners International in its “Uniform Classification Guidelines for Foreign Substances.” So it caught many people by surprise last week when Jeff Gural, owner of Meadowlands Racing and Entertainment, said two trainers would be banned from the New Jersey harness track because horses in their care tested out of competition were found to have massive amounts of Cobalt in their system.
But should it really have been a surprise?
Articles in scientific journals discussing use of Cobalt for blood doping by human athletes have been around nearly a decade. Experiments with laboratory rats show that Cobalt improved endurance. Administration of Cobalt in human athletes has similar results to recombinant human erythropoietin (EPO), adding red blood cells. It is inexpensive and easy to acquire, but difficult to find in drug tests because the detection window is brief – between four and six hours.
Cobalt also can be fatal.
A 2013 article in Hematology magazine, entitled “Blood manipulation: current challenges from an anti-doping perspective,” said chronic Cobalt exposure can have severe side effects.
“Regular intake of high Cobalt salt doses comes with a real risk of organ injury, such as thyroid dysfunction, cardiotoxicity, and heart failure,” Danish author Jakob Morkeberg writes. HIF’s (hypoxia-inducible factor stabilizers) can affect several other genes from the EPO gene, some of which might have tumor-growth-promoting potential. Therefore, using this substance could pose a real health risk to the athlete.”
The dangers of Cobalt were known long before the substance was used as a performance-enhancing drug in human or equine athletics.
In the mid-1960s a brewery in Quebec, Canada, was among several North American beer makers to add Cobalt to its formula to stabilize foam. An alarming number of heavy beer drinkers in Quebec developed heart disease and died from cardiovascular failure, and the evidence led to the breweries that were adding Cobalt to their beer. The practice was quickly stopped, and so, too, did the deaths.
Tests taken out of competition by security personnel for Meadowlands were sent to the Hong Kong Jockey Club laboratory for evaluation. According to sources, the Standardbred trainers whose horses tested for high levels of Cobalt were also administering large doses of thyroxin to reduce risk of thyroid problems. This is not just a North American problem: Australian racing authorities, concerned with possible Cobalt use, are developing threshold levels in urine.
All that’s needed to test for Cobalt is an ICP mass spectrometer and personnel trained on the diagnostic equipment. But post-race testing is thought to be virtually useless, since the substance is detectable only for a short time after dosing.
In the wake of last week’s actions by Meadowlands in neighboring New Jersey, the New York Gaming Commission said it is acquiring the necessary equipment and will begin testing for Cobalt.
“The Commission supports efforts by track operators to exclude parties who put horse health and safety in jeopardy and call into question the integrity of horse racing,” The New York Gaming Commission said in a statement published in the New York Daily News. “New York’s Equine Drug Testing Program is continually evolving. The Morrisville laboratory has acquired on loan the equipment to test for Cobalt. Personnel are being trained to test for Cobalt, and George Maylin (the director of Equine Drug Testing in New York) has been consulting with Meadowlands officials to help establish the proper thresholds for determining Cobalt positives.”
In December, the California Horse Racing Board began testing for Cobalt in horses examined post-mortem in the state’s necropsy program. However, none of the seven horses in Bob Baffert’s care that died over a 16-month period from November 2011 to March 2013 were tested for Cobalt, either at the time of the original examination or during subsequent re-testing. In the CHRB report on the investigation of the Baffert sudden death horses, the trainer admitted to investigators that all of his horses routinely were being given thyroxin.
A statement from a CHRB communications officer who indicated Arthur would not respond to questions directly said: “Cobalt has not historically been an issue in livestock deaths. The Cobalt issue in racing is fairly new. Dr. Arthur doubts that any jurisdiction was testing for Cobalt at the time of these deaths.”
Regarding the sudden death Baffert horses, the spokesman said: “Dr. Arthur contacted the lab in November to inquire about re-testing for Cobalt. He was told there were no samples left. By that, the lab meant liver samples, the tissue typically used at the lab for heavy metal testing. Upon further investigation, the lab does have samples of other tissues and fluids from all but two of the horses. The validated method of testing for Cobalt is for liver. Nonetheless, Dr. Arthur is working with his colleagues on methods and a determination of which of those other tissues would be the next best for Cobalt testing. This additional testing will be done once they have those answers.”
Gural, as the owner of Meadowlands, is circumventing commissions. His team of experts and security personnel has established a policy – testing with threshold levels – making it clear anyone giving this dangerous substance to their horses will not be welcome to participate at his racetrack.
But should it really have been a surprise?
Articles in scientific journals discussing use of Cobalt for blood doping by human athletes have been around nearly a decade. Experiments with laboratory rats show that Cobalt improved endurance. Administration of Cobalt in human athletes has similar results to recombinant human erythropoietin (EPO), adding red blood cells. It is inexpensive and easy to acquire, but difficult to find in drug tests because the detection window is brief – between four and six hours.
Cobalt also can be fatal.
A 2013 article in Hematology magazine, entitled “Blood manipulation: current challenges from an anti-doping perspective,” said chronic Cobalt exposure can have severe side effects.
“Regular intake of high Cobalt salt doses comes with a real risk of organ injury, such as thyroid dysfunction, cardiotoxicity, and heart failure,” Danish author Jakob Morkeberg writes. HIF’s (hypoxia-inducible factor stabilizers) can affect several other genes from the EPO gene, some of which might have tumor-growth-promoting potential. Therefore, using this substance could pose a real health risk to the athlete.”
The dangers of Cobalt were known long before the substance was used as a performance-enhancing drug in human or equine athletics.
In the mid-1960s a brewery in Quebec, Canada, was among several North American beer makers to add Cobalt to its formula to stabilize foam. An alarming number of heavy beer drinkers in Quebec developed heart disease and died from cardiovascular failure, and the evidence led to the breweries that were adding Cobalt to their beer. The practice was quickly stopped, and so, too, did the deaths.
Tests taken out of competition by security personnel for Meadowlands were sent to the Hong Kong Jockey Club laboratory for evaluation. According to sources, the Standardbred trainers whose horses tested for high levels of Cobalt were also administering large doses of thyroxin to reduce risk of thyroid problems. This is not just a North American problem: Australian racing authorities, concerned with possible Cobalt use, are developing threshold levels in urine.
All that’s needed to test for Cobalt is an ICP mass spectrometer and personnel trained on the diagnostic equipment. But post-race testing is thought to be virtually useless, since the substance is detectable only for a short time after dosing.
In the wake of last week’s actions by Meadowlands in neighboring New Jersey, the New York Gaming Commission said it is acquiring the necessary equipment and will begin testing for Cobalt.
“The Commission supports efforts by track operators to exclude parties who put horse health and safety in jeopardy and call into question the integrity of horse racing,” The New York Gaming Commission said in a statement published in the New York Daily News. “New York’s Equine Drug Testing Program is continually evolving. The Morrisville laboratory has acquired on loan the equipment to test for Cobalt. Personnel are being trained to test for Cobalt, and George Maylin (the director of Equine Drug Testing in New York) has been consulting with Meadowlands officials to help establish the proper thresholds for determining Cobalt positives.”
In December, the California Horse Racing Board began testing for Cobalt in horses examined post-mortem in the state’s necropsy program. However, none of the seven horses in Bob Baffert’s care that died over a 16-month period from November 2011 to March 2013 were tested for Cobalt, either at the time of the original examination or during subsequent re-testing. In the CHRB report on the investigation of the Baffert sudden death horses, the trainer admitted to investigators that all of his horses routinely were being given thyroxin.
A statement from a CHRB communications officer who indicated Arthur would not respond to questions directly said: “Cobalt has not historically been an issue in livestock deaths. The Cobalt issue in racing is fairly new. Dr. Arthur doubts that any jurisdiction was testing for Cobalt at the time of these deaths.”
Regarding the sudden death Baffert horses, the spokesman said: “Dr. Arthur contacted the lab in November to inquire about re-testing for Cobalt. He was told there were no samples left. By that, the lab meant liver samples, the tissue typically used at the lab for heavy metal testing. Upon further investigation, the lab does have samples of other tissues and fluids from all but two of the horses. The validated method of testing for Cobalt is for liver. Nonetheless, Dr. Arthur is working with his colleagues on methods and a determination of which of those other tissues would be the next best for Cobalt testing. This additional testing will be done once they have those answers.”
Gural, as the owner of Meadowlands, is circumventing commissions. His team of experts and security personnel has established a policy – testing with threshold levels – making it clear anyone giving this dangerous substance to their horses will not be welcome to participate at his racetrack.
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looking like it could be a"problem with feed" or something? another 2 or 3 trainers (horses) tested positve
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My wife said she wanted to experiment in the bedroom...
So I got her a Chemistry set and went to the pub
So I got her a Chemistry set and went to the pub
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Trainer Moody faces fresh drugs inquiry
BY ANDREW DIETZ 9:05AM 21 JAN 2015
Australia: Black Caviar trainer Peter Moody is facing another headache after one of his horses returned a positive sample for the banned substance ibuprofen.
Already one of three leading trainers involved in a Racing Victoria investigation into elevated levels of cobalt, Moody has been called in front of Racing New South Wales stewards next month to explain the latest positive test.
Ibuprofen, a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug that masks pain, was detected from pre-race blood tests conducted on the Moody-trained House Of Hingis before two of the filly’s runs in November.
In 2013 trainer Chris Waller faced the Racing NSW stewards when four of his horses tested positive for ibuprofen but he was cleared after the investigation discovered the source of the drug was contaminated feed.
BY ANDREW DIETZ 9:05AM 21 JAN 2015
Australia: Black Caviar trainer Peter Moody is facing another headache after one of his horses returned a positive sample for the banned substance ibuprofen.
Already one of three leading trainers involved in a Racing Victoria investigation into elevated levels of cobalt, Moody has been called in front of Racing New South Wales stewards next month to explain the latest positive test.
Ibuprofen, a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug that masks pain, was detected from pre-race blood tests conducted on the Moody-trained House Of Hingis before two of the filly’s runs in November.
In 2013 trainer Chris Waller faced the Racing NSW stewards when four of his horses tested positive for ibuprofen but he was cleared after the investigation discovered the source of the drug was contaminated feed.
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