Vaal - Thursday 15th May

roving banker 4..1-2-3-7-9-10-11-13

banker 2/4 2/4..1-3-7-9-10-11-13

The Ilitshe form is very suspect, after winning the Derby Trial it ran stone last in the Derby and Leeulop Jet ran almost 15 lengths back in the same race. If the MR are correct then LJ should be getting more weight from Everest, despite the price, not for me.

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> The Ilitshe form is very suspect, after winning
> the Derby Trial it ran stone last in the Derby and
> Leeulop Jet ran almost 15 lengths back in the same
> race. If the MR are correct then LJ should be
> getting more weight from Everest, despite the
> price, not for me.


I don't agree. There was many things wrong with the way the Derby was run. Both Illitshe and LJ went like they were being chased. Obviously they wouldn't have beaten LTK but still, not their runs. I think Everest is a good sort but he will struggle to beat LJ at the weights.

Noble, not for me. He is exposed and not this class, not on handicap, not on anything

Tommy_Hotspur Wrote:

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> > The Ilitshe form is very suspect, after winning
> > the Derby Trial it ran stone last in the Derby
> and
> > Leeulop Jet ran almost 15 lengths back in the
> same
> > race. If the MR are correct then LJ should be
> > getting more weight from Everest, despite the
> > price, not for me.
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> I don't agree. There was many things wrong with
> the way the Derby was run. Both Illitshe and LJ
> went like they were being chased. Obviously they
> wouldn't have beaten LTK but still, not their
> runs. I think Everest is a good sort but he will
> struggle to beat LJ at the weights.
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> Noble, not for me. He is exposed and not this
> class, not on handicap, not on anything

TH, in the Derby Trial they all finished in a heap which is never a good sign. Something I find odd - Everest's MR is 91 (according to Winningform) and he is carrying 60.0kgs in a 86 MR, under the race conditions, should he not be carrying 63.0kgs? If I am correct, then he is well in with LJ

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> > > The Ilitshe form is very suspect, after
> winning
> > > the Derby Trial it ran stone last in the
> Derby
> > and
> > > Leeulop Jet ran almost 15 lengths back in the
> > same
> > > race. If the MR are correct then LJ should be
> > > getting more weight from Everest, despite the
> > > price, not for me.
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> > I don't agree. There was many things wrong with
> > the way the Derby was run. Both Illitshe and LJ
> > went like they were being chased. Obviously
> they
> > wouldn't have beaten LTK but still, not their
> > runs. I think Everest is a good sort but he
> will
> > struggle to beat LJ at the weights.
> >
> > Noble, not for me. He is exposed and not this
> > class, not on handicap, not on anything
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> TH, in the Derby Trial they all finished in a heap
> which is never a good sign. Something I find odd -
> Everest's MR is 91 (according to Winningform) and
> he is carrying 60.0kgs in a 86 MR, under the race
> conditions, should he not be carrying 63.0kgs? If
> I am correct, then he is well in with LJ

He should be carrying 62.5kg's which is what he gets at WFA.

Dayla not for me.....

I like Bad Dream and I like Lady Law to place.

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> > > > The Ilitshe form is very suspect, after
> > winning
> > > > the Derby Trial it ran stone last in the
> > Derby
> > > and
> > > > Leeulop Jet ran almost 15 lengths back in
> the
> > > same
> > > > race. If the MR are correct then LJ should
> be
> > > > getting more weight from Everest, despite
> the
> > > > price, not for me.
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> > > I don't agree. There was many things wrong
> with
> > > the way the Derby was run. Both Illitshe and
> LJ
> > > went like they were being chased. Obviously
> > they
> > > wouldn't have beaten LTK but still, not their
> > > runs. I think Everest is a good sort but he
> > will
> > > struggle to beat LJ at the weights.
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> > > Noble, not for me. He is exposed and not this
> > > class, not on handicap, not on anything
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> > TH, in the Derby Trial they all finished in a
> heap
> > which is never a good sign. Something I find odd
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> > Everest's MR is 91 (according to Winningform)
> and
> > he is carrying 60.0kgs in a 86 MR, under the
> race
> > conditions, should he not be carrying 63.0kgs?
> If
> > I am correct, then he is well in with LJ
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> He should be carrying 62.5kg's which is what he
> gets at WFA.

Then he is well in against the other three year olds, not so?

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> > > > > The Ilitshe form is very suspect, after
> > > winning
> > > > > the Derby Trial it ran stone last in the
> > > Derby
> > > > and
> > > > > Leeulop Jet ran almost 15 lengths back in
> > the
> > > > same
> > > > > race. If the MR are correct then LJ
> should
> > be
> > > > > getting more weight from Everest, despite
> > the
> > > > > price, not for me.
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> > > > I don't agree. There was many things wrong
> > with
> > > > the way the Derby was run. Both Illitshe
> and
> > LJ
> > > > went like they were being chased. Obviously
> > > they
> > > > wouldn't have beaten LTK but still, not
> their
> > > > runs. I think Everest is a good sort but he
> > > will
> > > > struggle to beat LJ at the weights.
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> > > > Noble, not for me. He is exposed and not
> this
> > > > class, not on handicap, not on anything
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> > > TH, in the Derby Trial they all finished in a
> > heap
> > > which is never a good sign. Something I find
> odd
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> > > Everest's MR is 91 (according to Winningform)
> > and
> > > he is carrying 60.0kgs in a 86 MR, under the
> > race
> > > conditions, should he not be carrying
> 63.0kgs?
> > If
> > > I am correct, then he is well in with LJ
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> > He should be carrying 62.5kg's which is what he
> > gets at WFA.
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> olds, not so?

There is 15 MR points between the two, which is 7.5kg's which is exactly the weight disparity.

Go and look at their two last meetings. LJ is MUCH better off on both weight terms. Everest has gotten a penalty because of his extra win in MR company.

I'm the biggest Everest fan on the planet, in fact if I could I would buy him from Mr. Gray, however, there is no chance of it beating LJ at the weights

Tarry hottie goes missing again, what a joke .....()

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> > Must agree Oscar. My best bet of the day and it
> > has 3 winners in the formline from that last
> run
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> I agree but interestingly I see Seven Whispers is
> 14-18 / 1 in SA but a couple of bookies in the UK
> have shortened it in as far as 17/2...


got some nice EW on this one thanks only to your post.

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> > > Surely the Western Winter filly Dayla in the
> > 2nd
> > > has to be buying money at evens
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> > Must agree Oscar. My best bet of the day and it
> > has 3 winners in the formline from that last
> run
> > (tu)
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> I agree but interestingly I see Seven Whispers is
> 14-18 / 1 in SA but a couple of bookies in the UK
> have shortened it in as far as 17/2...


Shot E. -D

Nice call Engels...-D