P6 payout @ Turf 21/01/14

I double checked in case I was dreaming ..................just prior to the last race the P6 "will pays" with Miss K was R35000 +......................................after the race the payout was R23000+..................she was not fav and no extra tickets were added OFFICIALLY.....................do we have a hacker like the USA did?
Another trust factor that the industry needs to address rather than just ignore .....................too many punters tote queries are not answered!

Rob......I wonder if the same hacker cancelled 4000 places in the last minute race 5???????............

Race 5 Closed
Win Place Win Place Win Place
SCR 1 SCR F 1.8 4 0.9 17.8 7 3.5
38.5 2 5.2 20.3 5 2.9 74.5 8 7.1
2.2 3 1.1 9.4 6 1.3 74.9 9 7.5
Dble 11085 Exac 38622 Jpot 487561 Pic3 8304
Pic6 1120795 Bpot 210757 P.A. 786349 Plce 36838
Quat 118772 Swgr 25341 Trif 47491 Win 64188


1 minute to Race 5
Win Place Win Place Win Place
SCR 1 SCR F 1.7 4 1.1 14.4 7 5.3
41.4 2 7.3 17.3 5 4.8 67.1 8 8.1
2.7 3 0.9 8.5 6 0.8 71.9 9 10.1
Dble 9554 Exac 35067 Jpot 467586 Pic3 7269
Pic6 1120795 Bpot 210757 P.A. 786349 Plce 40792
Quat 100977 Swgr 23890 Trif 37378 Win 51792

CM, they don't have to hack to do that ..................................I have seen that done in TAB outlets...................including 20/30 seconds into the race.................

True Rob
But how do u change an exotic that was played before the legs have started and 3 or 4 legs later change??

scotia Wrote:

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> True Rob
> But how do u change an exotic that was played
> before the legs have started and 3 or 4 legs later
> change??

....we are using the exact same tote system namely Amtote that was manipulated in 2002 during the running of the Breeders Cup meeting.....a P6 ticket was changed to have 4 bankers and 2 fields and added back into the system after the 4th leg was run......relays or loops can be attached to a terminal with printer to issue an amended ticket after the system was closed.....:

I will never play on the tote unless im forced to. Has anybody noticed how poor the soccer 6 has been paying the last few months. Rather play Holly Sixa at Hollywood and you sure you not being raped. Im almost certain the pick 6 was paying over 30k aswell but that was on Tellytrack.

onyerway Wrote:

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> I will never play on the tote unless im forced to.
> Has anybody noticed how poor the soccer 6 has been
> paying the last few months. Rather play Holly Sixa
> at Hollywood and you sure you not being raped. Im
> almost certain the pick 6 was paying over 30k
> aswell but that was on Tellytrack.


Yip I have found that the 'will pays' / 'min payout' as shown on TABGOLD (not sure abt TABONLINE) are not always the same as those shown on TT :S

Here is something to consider
Horse racing is promoted as a game of skill as opposed to casino and lottery
So you take a horse based on the value you think that it should be, but if you play via the tote it can be a lottery or game of chance with the payout
Makes u think?

Would be interesting to hear Vee's spin response to these changes, there should be NO CHANGE for a "will pay " exotic unless on the tote favorite if there are tickets on scratchings.

Also waiting to hear BIG ROD the Oz's comments on this issue as he 's always sniping at Pick 6 critics ........................should be more focused on tipping winners, that's what he gets paid for.(td)

scotia Wrote:

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> Here is something to consider
> Horse racing is promoted as a game of skill as
> opposed to casino and lottery
> So you take a horse based on the value you think
> that it should be, but if you play via the tote it
> can be a lottery or game of chance with the
> payout
> Makes u think?

2 further examples yesterday Kenilworth

Suruptitious...tote paid R1,60 a place...Hollywood paid R2,80 a place fixed...that's R120 or 120% more profit for every R100 staked
Combattimento...tote paid R1,20 a place...Hollywood paid R1,68 a place fixed...that's R48 or 48% more profit for every R100 staked...

I honestly do not think the General public is so much "cleverer" to be on the right one that the experienced internet gambler...so How do I logically explain the Massive difference??