Kenilworth Saturday 23/11/13
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Re: Re: Kenilworth Saturday 23/11/13
11 years 6 months ago
shrek Wrote:
> bayern Wrote:
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> > > On lengths behind Captain America would have
> > > beaten Master of my Fate on that run. I do
> > believe
> > > that Captain America however is looking for
> > 1600
> > > meters plus so recon Red Ray could have his
> > > measure tomorrow. Should be a good race.
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> > C, Red Ray has conceded weight before and gave
> > them a galloping lesson, nothing will change
> > tomorrow despite the draw. This is home and
> hosed.
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> I agree he will win tomorrow but when they start
> going over more ground Captain America will be the
> one to beat.
The only thing that will beat RR is the second run after a rest syndrome, but the good un's don't seem so have that problem. They just keep arriving, I know at the current odds it's not worth a head the punt, they all running for second.
> bayern Wrote:
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> > shrek Wrote:
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> > > On lengths behind Captain America would have
> > > beaten Master of my Fate on that run. I do
> > believe
> > > that Captain America however is looking for
> > 1600
> > > meters plus so recon Red Ray could have his
> > > measure tomorrow. Should be a good race.
> >
> > C, Red Ray has conceded weight before and gave
> > them a galloping lesson, nothing will change
> > tomorrow despite the draw. This is home and
> hosed.
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> I agree he will win tomorrow but when they start
> going over more ground Captain America will be the
> one to beat.
The only thing that will beat RR is the second run after a rest syndrome, but the good un's don't seem so have that problem. They just keep arriving, I know at the current odds it's not worth a head the punt, they all running for second.
Guessing has never been widely acclaimed as a good gambling strategy.
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Re: Re: Kenilworth Saturday 23/11/13
11 years 6 months ago
Claims
2013-11-23 KENILWORTH
Race Horse Old New
5 15 BEACH BEAUTY 13/10 9/10
6 1 ZAMBEZI TORRENT 6/1 9/2
6 7 POWER KING 4/1 3/1
7 4 CAPTAIN AMERICA 7/1 9/2
2013-11-23 KENILWORTH
Race Horse Old New
5 15 BEACH BEAUTY 13/10 9/10
6 1 ZAMBEZI TORRENT 6/1 9/2
6 7 POWER KING 4/1 3/1
7 4 CAPTAIN AMERICA 7/1 9/2
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Re: Re: Kenilworth Saturday 23/11/13
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hibernia Wrote:
> Wavin the Flag
I think this one is out at the weights, but don't let me put you off, Disco Al looks a good thing in this line up, my very subjective view.
> Wavin the Flag
I think this one is out at the weights, but don't let me put you off, Disco Al looks a good thing in this line up, my very subjective view.
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Re: Re: Kenilworth Saturday 23/11/13
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I'm going racing for the first time since the Met of 2010 as I have a friend with a runner in the R2 million race and have been asked to accompany her.
First change I noted - Computaform now costs R25. Wow! I think it was about R12 when last I bought one.
Had a look at the card and identified a few points which clanners might find useful (or not! ) :
Cape Town Noir vs Beach Beauty:
As I honestly do not believe there is any other horse likely to win here I would Dutch them ; ie Ideally put the big money on the 'long shot' and save on the favourite. Or do it the other way around if you must. Perhaps a boxed exacta for the smaller player? (Not the smartest bet if one wins and the other runs third or unplaced)
The Ready To Run :
Please note the following carefully as it is not intended as a 'tip' but rather as a cautionary :
Red Ray is a stupid price. Opened 7/20 and is now 4/10.
Evaluation :
WHY IT CAN/SHOULD WIN :
It's a very good horse. No doubt about it.
WHY IT MAY NOT WIN :
Poor draw.
15 very 'alive' opponents
2nd run after a layoff
And............The percentage of horses that win at odds-on over the old course Kenilworth 1400 m is.............4%!!
Don't say you were not warned.
Stayers Race
Beware the horses that do not have form/experience over the actual trip.
The difference between 2400 and 3200 is massive so be warned.
Many of the fancied runners have not gone beyond 2400.
I may be wrong but I will not be accused of being an A.R.M. on any of the above!
First change I noted - Computaform now costs R25. Wow! I think it was about R12 when last I bought one.
Had a look at the card and identified a few points which clanners might find useful (or not! ) :
Cape Town Noir vs Beach Beauty:
As I honestly do not believe there is any other horse likely to win here I would Dutch them ; ie Ideally put the big money on the 'long shot' and save on the favourite. Or do it the other way around if you must. Perhaps a boxed exacta for the smaller player? (Not the smartest bet if one wins and the other runs third or unplaced)
The Ready To Run :
Please note the following carefully as it is not intended as a 'tip' but rather as a cautionary :
Red Ray is a stupid price. Opened 7/20 and is now 4/10.
Evaluation :
WHY IT CAN/SHOULD WIN :
It's a very good horse. No doubt about it.
WHY IT MAY NOT WIN :
Poor draw.
15 very 'alive' opponents
2nd run after a layoff
And............The percentage of horses that win at odds-on over the old course Kenilworth 1400 m is.............4%!!
Don't say you were not warned.
Stayers Race
Beware the horses that do not have form/experience over the actual trip.
The difference between 2400 and 3200 is massive so be warned.
Many of the fancied runners have not gone beyond 2400.
I may be wrong but I will not be accused of being an A.R.M. on any of the above!
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Re: Re: Kenilworth Saturday 23/11/13
11 years 6 months ago
Helderberg Blue vs Roving Consort......Beach Beauty vs CTN.......Red Ray vs Arion/Capt America.......a great days racing ahead on a sunny CT day....strong headwind though!
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Re: Re: Kenilworth Saturday 23/11/13
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Race 5, Green Point; #15 BEACH BEAUTY: weighted to beat Cape Town Noir by nearly 4 length; on a hattrick; in the Garden Province she beat subsequent winners who ran 2nd, 3rd and 4th; very classy; trainer in form. Go baby go.
Race 6, Selangor Cup; #1 ZAMBEZI TORRENT: weighted to win by 2.5 lengths. At least 11/2 but ask for 6.
Race 7, Cape's RTR; #1 RED RAY. Against this pish? Nap.
Race 8, Kenilworth Cup; #4 DUBAI GINA: returning to form and trainer is in form; has previously shown class. At least 7/1 but ask for 10.
Prosperous punting
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Race 6, Selangor Cup; #1 ZAMBEZI TORRENT: weighted to win by 2.5 lengths. At least 11/2 but ask for 6.
Race 7, Cape's RTR; #1 RED RAY. Against this pish? Nap.
Race 8, Kenilworth Cup; #4 DUBAI GINA: returning to form and trainer is in form; has previously shown class. At least 7/1 but ask for 10.
Prosperous punting

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Re: Re: Kenilworth Saturday 23/11/13
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R1 Splashadown-JUDPOT R800k @ 14/1
R2 Hermanus- TRIPPI R400K @ 10/1
9 Helderberg- JET MASTER R2.8MIL @ 1/1
R3 4 Endearment- HUSSONET @ 7/2
R5 1 Hilly 54 - Captain Al @ 16/1
4 Bravura - SILVANO R400k @ 50/1
13 Gifted For Glory - SILVANO R1.1MIL @ 33-1
R6 3 Counts Rocket- COUNTS ROCKET R200K @ 16/1
9 Captain On The Run - CAPTAIN AL @ 20/1
R7 1 Red Ray - WESTERN WINTER R700k @ 4/10
3 Captain's Reserve -CAPTAIN AL R500K @ 35/1
R8 2 Crown Of Gold - SILVANO R225 @ 6/1
7 Disco Al - CAPTAIN AL R800k @ 28/10
R9 6 Hammie's Hooker - TRIPPI R360K @ 6/1
12 Trade Emblem - NATIONAL EMBLEM @ 40/1
15 Tevez -CAESOUR R700K @ 11/2
16 The West Is Wide - WESTERN WINTER @ 40/1
17 La Patineuse - NATIONAL EMBLEM @ 40/1
R10 8 Sir Duke - TRIPPI R450 @ 33/10..
It AERO raining silk that going to shine 2day..
R2 Hermanus- TRIPPI R400K @ 10/1
9 Helderberg- JET MASTER R2.8MIL @ 1/1
R3 4 Endearment- HUSSONET @ 7/2
R5 1 Hilly 54 - Captain Al @ 16/1
4 Bravura - SILVANO R400k @ 50/1
13 Gifted For Glory - SILVANO R1.1MIL @ 33-1
R6 3 Counts Rocket- COUNTS ROCKET R200K @ 16/1
9 Captain On The Run - CAPTAIN AL @ 20/1
R7 1 Red Ray - WESTERN WINTER R700k @ 4/10
3 Captain's Reserve -CAPTAIN AL R500K @ 35/1
R8 2 Crown Of Gold - SILVANO R225 @ 6/1
7 Disco Al - CAPTAIN AL R800k @ 28/10
R9 6 Hammie's Hooker - TRIPPI R360K @ 6/1
12 Trade Emblem - NATIONAL EMBLEM @ 40/1
15 Tevez -CAESOUR R700K @ 11/2
16 The West Is Wide - WESTERN WINTER @ 40/1
17 La Patineuse - NATIONAL EMBLEM @ 40/1
R10 8 Sir Duke - TRIPPI R450 @ 33/10..
It AERO raining silk that going to shine 2day..
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Re: Re: Kenilworth Saturday 23/11/13
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Suleman and the Jooste"s............whats the connection....

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Re: Re: Kenilworth Saturday 23/11/13
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Winning Form & Magic Tips Best Bets - Kenilworth
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Re: Re: Kenilworth Saturday 23/11/13
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the duke Wrote:
> Suleman and the Jooste"s............whats the
> connection....
Duke... I have no connection with anybody.it the way that i study.it fun, and worth the gamble,JOOSTE puts the rite horse's in the rite races.(tu)
> Suleman and the Jooste"s............whats the
> connection....

Duke... I have no connection with anybody.it the way that i study.it fun, and worth the gamble,JOOSTE puts the rite horse's in the rite races.(tu)
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Re: Re: Kenilworth Saturday 23/11/13
11 years 6 months ago
Some fancies...
Race No Horse
1 3 WATERS EDGE
1 19 TIAWANA TIGRESS
1 16 SPLASHDOWN
2 4 ROVING CONSORT
2 9 HELDERBERG BLUE
2 5 HERMANUS
3 5 LITHUANIAN QUEEN
3 4 ENDEARMENT (AUS)
3 6 ZAKUSKA
4 10 SILK ROAD
4 9 FLYING COMFORT
4 6 THE WHICH DOCTOR
5 15 BEACH BEAUTY
5 5 CASTLETHORPE (AUS)
5 8 NO WORRIES
6 1 ZAMBEZI TORRENT
6 9 CAPTAIN ON THE RUN
6 8 DYNASTIC POWER
7 2 ANTONIUS DU BOIS
7 4 CAPTAIN AMERICA
7 6 ARION
9 10 M'LORDS THROAT
9 15 TEVEZ
9 7 VILLA DEL LARGO
10 7 TELL ME MORE (NZ)
10 9 SPANISH TIGER
10 13 NAVAL VICTORY (AUS)
Race No Horse
1 3 WATERS EDGE
1 19 TIAWANA TIGRESS
1 16 SPLASHDOWN
2 4 ROVING CONSORT
2 9 HELDERBERG BLUE
2 5 HERMANUS
3 5 LITHUANIAN QUEEN
3 4 ENDEARMENT (AUS)
3 6 ZAKUSKA
4 10 SILK ROAD
4 9 FLYING COMFORT
4 6 THE WHICH DOCTOR
5 15 BEACH BEAUTY
5 5 CASTLETHORPE (AUS)
5 8 NO WORRIES
6 1 ZAMBEZI TORRENT
6 9 CAPTAIN ON THE RUN
6 8 DYNASTIC POWER
7 2 ANTONIUS DU BOIS
7 4 CAPTAIN AMERICA
7 6 ARION
9 10 M'LORDS THROAT
9 15 TEVEZ
9 7 VILLA DEL LARGO
10 7 TELL ME MORE (NZ)
10 9 SPANISH TIGER
10 13 NAVAL VICTORY (AUS)
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