Vaal Sand Jottings - Thursday 26/09

Not the most fascinating of cards for me today. Plenty fancied favs which could all well win but at the prices I have for the most part looked elsewhere. That said, in truth, I struggled today to find much in the way of value and plenty choices are hopeful rather than with confidence. Watch the draw in R1 if you can, may give a pointer for R7. Anyway, enough waffle already follows, so I''ll shut up now As ever, please use the daily thread for your comments etc rather than making them here, be(s)t of luck to all (tu)

RACE 1 - 1000 MAIDEN-W'RIDERS

1 GLOBAL TALK - 2 top 3s in 6 visits. both coming in 4 over c/d and most importantly, in his last 2 runs. In penultimate was a 2l 2nd with the 3rd and 6th winning since. Lto was beaten 5.75l into 3rd by Mr Alfonso and he and the 6th won nto, with the 2nd and 4th running silvers since. Has a top WR up and in a very poor looking field must have a very good chance of success. Drawn 3.

2 ROYAL STOCK - Only 1 3rd in 8 c visits and that is his only top 3 in 22 runs. Does very occasionally put in an ok effort and in this field has a place chance but hard to see him beating GT. Drawn 5.

4 COMBAT CAT - Not within 9l of the winner in 7 runs, 3 on c. Jockey yet to have a top 3 finish. Best efforts over this d and though they were poor he might still sneak a quartet place. Drawn 4.

5 RISING TIGER - Only twice finished less than 10l behind the winner in his 9 runs, 2 on course which were 35l and 18.5l defeats over 1600 and 1450 respectively, though not striding out over 1450. Not the worst WR in the world and tries the minimum trip for the first time but hard to see him finishing in the money. Drawn 6.

6 WAR PLANE - Not within 9l of the winner in 7 runs, 2 on c which were 50l and 25l defeats over 1600 and 1450 respectively. Tries the minimum trip for the first time but highly unlikely to be anywhere close. Drawn 2.

7 MARSDEN - Beaten 12l on sand debut lto when coming off a 12 week rest. Similar defeat in only turf run. Another who, given that the trainer form is not too bad, the WR has won before and the overall weakness of the field, could sneak a quartet place but hard to see him finishing better than that. Drawn 8

8 WOZA MADODA - Sand debut. Has only one 3rd in 6 turf runs between 1000-1200 but not beaten more than 6.5l. Breeding suggests he could like the surface and if so doing has a decent chance. If not doing so, in this field, he must still be a top candidate for places. On 3rd run after rest and from the inform Lucky H stable but inexperienced jockey up. Drawn 7.

9 WONT WAIT - Sand debut. Not the worst turf form on show in his 3 runs but his best is still only a 7.5l defeat. Nothing in the breeding to state he will enjoy the surface and comes off a 21 week rest. Drawn 10.

10 FIERCE ALLEGIANCE - A 9.25l defeat at Bingo is his best performance in 6 runs with his only here ending in a 39l defeat over 1200. On 2nd run after a rest, comes from the inform Binda stable and a capable WR on board. Unlikely but depending on the price may be the one worth a small idiot nibble. Drawn 9.

11 PERFECT TRIP - Beaten 10l on debut here lto over 1200 but the field was not the worst maiden field ever and on that basis he has something of a chance if coming on for the run. Competent WR up but stable not firing. Drawn 1.

Hardly a mouth-watering field to get us under way. Global Talk is the obvious one, though will probably be a very short price. Woza Madoda is the one most likely to challenge if taking to the surface. Perfect Trip could stake a claim but for the trifecta/quartets I'll try Fierce Allegiance (a miniscule e/w), Royal Stock, Marsden and Combat Cat... GLOBAL TALK x WOZA MADODA x FIERCE ALLEGIANCE x ROYAL STOCK

RACE 2 - 1200 MAIDEN

1 LET'S PLAY - A Laird. Sand debut. Breeding suggests a decent chance of enjoying the surface and comes here with some creditable turf form. Concerns are the breaks, returns this time from 18 weeks away and that was her third break of over 10 weeks having only had 6 runs. Has run 2nd returning from a break before though. Drops back in d and is drawn 10. Must have a good chance but questions to answer.

2 DERAQUA - Sand debut. Nothing in the breeding to say she is one who will take to the surface and has a relatively high draw in 9. Watching brief.

3 SMOOTH SAILING - No top 3s in 27 runs, 4 on c and 8 over the d. Drawn high in 13 and though appie takes weight off hard to envisage he will trouble the judge.

4 THE IT GIRL - One second and one third in 17 runs, 5 on c. Generally campaigned over further but worth noting the silver came on sand debut over c/d when Lerena up. Since then no closer to winner than 9.5l over further, lto under Lerena again over 1450 so possible he has recommended a return to 1200 and he retains the ride. Drawn well in 4 and though not likely, may be worth a small e/w if the price permits.

5 PATRONE - 4th in 2nd run on c lto, 4th career run. Beaten 5.25l that day in a weak looking field and 10l on sand debut, both over 1000. Drawn high in 12 and not one that is of interest to me.

6 GLITZ AND GLAMOUR - Pettigrew/MVR. Sand debut. Shown little in 4 turf runs between 1400-1800 and starts sand career over shorter. A little in the breeding suggests she might improve on the sand. Drawn well in 6 and depending on price may be another worth having a small e/w interest.

7 MEGA FLASH DRIVE - Not within single figure lengths of the winner in 4 turf runs and beaten 27l on sand debut. Though the sand run was 2nd after a rest, lost ground at the start and reported not striding, nothing in the breeding to suggest to me she will do better. Has the 1 box and appie takes weight off but needs to show she can perform before I could be interested.

8 LAVENDULO - Sand debut. Not closer than 7.5l of the winner in 5 turf runs, generally running over further. Nothing in the breeding to say she will enjoy the surface and drawn high in 11.

9 JOUEZ - Debut. From the inform Lucky H stable and the breeding suggests a chance she will like the surface. Not the worst drawn in 7 and stable had a debutant run 2nd at the last meeting and another that won after a hopeless start on the turf on Monday.

10 ON CLOUD NINE - Sand debut. Not disgraced in two turf riuns over 1160 and 1000 but not encouraging either. Breeding suggests a chance of liking the surface and a decent draw of 5. A chance if taking to the sand.

11 SABOLA - Beaten over 25l in all 4 runs, 2 on c, and nothing in the breeding to suggest the sand will bring improvement from her. Seemingly, and not surprisingly, not stable elect.

12 SILENT FORCE - MDK. Well beaten in only turf run. Nothing in breeding suggests to me that will she be one who will definitely enjoy the surface. If not for the trainer, would have no interest.

13 BALLY HAVOC - Reserve. No top 3s in 13 runs ane beaten 31l in only c run, albeit over 1800. Consistently well beaten on turf at different distances and not one that appeals in any way.

Looks like there are a number of "also rans" here and only a few I think are possibles but with no concrete evidence to follow. The IT Girl and Glitz and Glamour are two that may be worth a small interest, Silent Force can't be ignored from the MDK stable and On Cloud Nine could win if enjoying the sand. Let's Play is perhaps the most likely on turf form and breeding but has a tough draw and some questions to answer. That leaves the Lucky H entrant Jouez and just based on the stable form and the decent run by their debutant last week, it may be the right one to follow... JOUEZ x ON CLOUD NINE x THE IT GIRL

RACE 3 - 1450 MAIDEN

1 KALAMATA BABY - Pettigrew/MVR. Performed well on both c visits, a 3.75l 4th on debut over 1450 when drawn 13/14 (2nd twice and 5th have won since) followed up with a staying on 2.5l 3rd over 1200 when drawn 7/12 (2nd runner-up and 4th won since). Better drawn here in 4 and must rate as having a decent chance.

2 CHEVALIER - Matchett. Two fair runs on the c over 1450 and 1600 prior to a 23 week rest and is now on 2nd run after that rest. May come on for the run and not chanceless but will find it difficult from the 12 box.

3 DULCE LECHE - Pettigrew/W'man. One third in 2 runs over c/d, 4 in total on c. Lto best ignored as reported not striding and returns here from a 13 week rest. Has a tricky draw in 9 but if all well then has a good chance.

4 GOLDEN DOLLAR - 3.5l 2nd on sand debut over 1200 was followed up by a sound beating over 1000 before improving again to finish a 4.25l 4th over 1450. Drawn 1 but little franking of the form and last race did look a weak field. In with a chance though from that draw.

5 KING'S CODE - Achieved little on turf and was beaten 21.5l on sand debut when returning from a 58 week rest. Nothing to indicate that there will be any sudden improvement.

6 OPERATION NEPTUNE - Well beaten all six turf efforts and by 20.5l and 50l in his two c visits. Returns from 16 weeks off but drawn 11 and likely to need the telescope to see the winner coming home.

7 SARGE IN CHARGE - SJG/Lerena. Beaten 16.5l here on debut over 1600 and followed that with another moderate effort on the effort. Been rested 10 weeks since though, has a good draw in 2 and the stable has been returning to some form in recent weeks. Depending on price, may be worth a small e/w hope.

8 DELICIOUS DAMOWIN - Woodruff/Fradd. Not disgraced up against some decent rivals in his 3 turf runs. Combo to respected on the sand although nothing to indicate he will definitely take to the surface. Drawn well in 3 but may be a little short in the market for a newcomer to the sand and perhaps better value lies e/w elsewhere?

9 BRAD'S SURGE - A 6l 4th over 1200 returning from a 14 week break is the closest he has come in his 3 c runs. Not the strongest of fields that day and though a reasonable draw in 5 is not one that interests me.

10 THE SISTERHOOD - Did not show much in 5 turf runs before going down lto by 11.25l on c debut over 1000. That was when returning from a 23 week rest but there is little to suggest there will suddenly be the improvement required over 1450.

11 REBEL WITH A CAUSE - Not been closer than 15.5l to the winner in his 4 runs including on c debut lto when beaten 22l over 1200 returning from a 23 week rest. Nothing to suggest there is a miracle about to happen.

12 AGILE COMBAT - beaten 19.75l and then 25.5l on sand debut here lto over 1000. On that basis, he should have no chance but the breeding suggests he might perform on the sand so, up in d then may be worth risking R1 e/w in the hope that the d brings about improvement. Very tenuous but won't hurt!

Delicious Damowin must have strong claims but likely to be short in the market and with questions to be answered I'll look elsewhere. Kalamata Baby and Dulce Leche both have reasonable claims, of the two I marginally prefer the latter but, my final vote, albeit very tentative, goes to Green Dollar who may be able to improve just enough from the 1 box... GREEN DOLLAR x DULCE LECHE x KALAMATA BABY

RACE 4 - 1450 H'CAP-80

1 FUN SUNZI - Stable in very good form and a consistent campaigner on the turf but, her heaviest recent defeat came in her only appearance on the c when beaten 22l over 1000. That was off a 19 week rest and tries 1450 here but will now require proof she can perform on the surface before getting involved.

2 GO INDIGO - One bronze in 6 attempts over c/d and an overall record of 3-0-3 in 12 d runs gives strong rise to the notion that she is a better performer on turf. Not chanceless if at her best but not one I would support, just not convinced she likes the surface (yet! lol)

3 MEXICAN GLORY - Matchett. 3-3-1 in 24 c runs and 2-20 in 7 over c/d but seemingly not at her best recently. Would not discount completely back at this d but another with something to prove for me currently.

4 MAGIC APPROACH - Sand debut. No indication in the breeding that she might like the surface and though runs on the turf have been creditable, they have not set the world alight either. Decent draw in 3 but can't be more than a watching brief for me.

5 SECRET MAGOK - Pettigrew/MVR. Made a decent start to her sand career when a running on 2l 4th to Velvet Jar over 1200 lto from a tricky draw of 7. Gets the 2 box here, won her maiden over 1400 on the turf and looks to have a very lively chance.

7 LAVISH GAL - Sand debut. Has being running consistently over sprint d's on the turf and steps up to 1450 for her debut here. Will be helped by the 1 box and a chance if taking to the surface but nothing in the breeding to say whether or not that is likely. A watching brief for me.

8 ALOHA BAY - 1-1-2 in 12 c runs with the win coming at this d but seems to be not in the best form currently, not being within 7.75l of the winner in her last 4 runs at varying d's. Another who has questions to answer at the moment and not one I could support here.

6 where the (or should that be "my" lol) jury is currently out and for this race I'm just going to brass them all. That just leaves Secret Magok... which is good, because she would have been my selection anyway. Of the remainder, I'll chance Mexican Glory to recapture some form back over this trip and Magic Approach to be ok on the surface... SECRET MOGOK x MEXICAN GLORY x MAGIC APPROACH

RACE 5 - 1450 H'CAP-64

1 WITH HER APPROVAL - Dislodged jockey on only visit to the c at an SP of 36/1. Turf form uninspiring since coming out of the maidens, trainer form a concern and nothing in the breeding says to me she will be one to take to the surface. has to be a pass.

2 BEAUTIFUL DAWN - 1-5-2 in 23 c starts and a silver and bronze in 5 efforts over c/d. Somewhat inconsistent but is well drawn in 3 and PS retains the ride. Is 2kgs worse off though with Sucha Wonder who finished 0.35l ahead of BD in the run behind The Angelus but BD is now the better drawn of the two. Chance.

3 KNOCK KNOCK - Won her maiden over c/d on sand debut lto in a decent performance considering she was drawn 10/10 and returning from a 10 week break. Khumalo retains the ride, somewhat better drawn in 7 and a big chance of following-up imo.

4 SHREYA'S ANGEL - 1-0-1 in 5 c visits and not had the best of draws in her 2 runs since winning her maiden, beaten 6.25l (1000) and 14.75l (1200). Unfortunately, that trend continues here with the 9 box. Steps up in trip but I am not convinced that will help, I could of course be wrong but will be one I (try to remember to! lol) watch out for when getting a low draw again as I think that might be key to her chances?

5 CERISE SILK - Magner/W'man. Only came out of the maidens in penultimate run but a consistent performer with a 1-3-4 record in 18 c runs and 1-3-2 in 8 over c/d. 2nd and 4th from her maiden run won nto. 4l and 3.75l behind SA and BD first time out of the maidens over c/d but had the worst draw of the 3 in 8 and now has the 2 box. Gunter is back up and in the six rides under him CS has finished 1st, 2nd three times, 3rd and 4th. Improvement on post maiden run expected and entitled to be challenging for the money.

6 DANIELLE - On a poor run of form recently having not been within 9.5l of the winner in her last 7 runs until winning on the turf on Monday when supported in from 55s to 18s. Yet to finish in the top 3 in 6 c runs but her early runs showed a little promise. Drawn 4 here and with the horse and stable showing signs of improvement not to be discounted.

8 SUCHA WONDER - Had a little respite from poor draws when finishing 0.25l and 4l ahead of BD and CS lto behind The Angelus over c/d. Is now 2kgs better off with BD but unfortunately returns to a much poorer draw having drawn 10/10. Likely that will make it difficult to confirm the form of that last run and overall record of 0-3-1 in 18 c/d runs does not inspire huge confidence.

9 SEATTLE FAIRY - Won well on debut here over 1000 when supported from 14s into 4s but in 6 runs since has not been closer than 9.5l to the winner, 5 of them on c and over varying d's. Drawn 8. Appie takes weight off but now with something to prove again and not one I will be involved with until so doing.

10 SILVA SHAMA - Has the 1 box and appie helps give her a light mass but well beaten on all 3 c starts and overall recent form has been poor. Should not be involved.

A few in with chances but I am in the Knock Knock camp. With Gunter back up and a better draw Cherise Silk might be able to reverse the form with Beautiful Dawn and Sucha Wonder with those two perhaps filling the minor places. Danielle may be a spanner in the works... KNOCK KNOCK x CHERISE SILK x BEAUTIFUL DAWN.

RACE 6 - 1450 H'CAP-68

1 VELDDRIFTER - Started sand career with a decent 7th beaten 3.5l by Baron Zero with a couple of today's rivals in the vicinity. But, with the blinkers on nto, he was something of a revelation and had his previous conqueror (BZ) 7l back when winning comfortably. In his 2 runs since he has disappointed, the 1600 was perhaps too far and was drawn 8/9 lto. The question is, can the better draw of 4 bring about a return to that 5th Aug form?

2 CHESHIRE CAT - Not disgraced when a 6l 6th from a draw of 12/12 on his sand debut over 1200 lto. The 2nd won nto. Much better drawn in 3 but not sure the step up in trip is ideal, in 13 career runs has gone further than 1200 only once, weakening over 1450 from a good draw. If he does stay then a chance but the d is a concern for me.

3 VIRGIL CANE - 1-2-1 in 10 c runs and 0-1-1 in 4 over c/d. Well beaten in last 5 starts, 2 here, and consequently had a 27 week break. Likely to need the run which hopefully will give an indication if a form return may be on the horizon. Not for me here though.

4 MISATSO - 18.5l behind the winner over 1200 on sand debut when returning from a 15 week break. Has won maiden on the turf since but well beaten in 2 runs out of the maidens. Gunter up but will need proof that he performs on the sand before I could consider him an option.

5 TOBE TURF TERROR - Following three somewhat disappointing c runs, came out of the maidens with a win in a WR event over c/d lto. With the form of the trainer seemingly improving he is not to be ignored from a decent draw of 5, his maiden win may have come in a poor field and this will be tougher but if the price is right then is definitely an e/w option.

6 SECRET FLAG - 1-2-0 in 16 c runs but yet to finish in the top 3 in any runs over 1400 and 1450. Good draw and appie takes weight off but likely too find a few stronger here.

7 ZEBULON - 3-6-3 in 33 c runs but just 0-1-1 in 8 over c/d and not been within 8l of the winner in his last 13 c runs. Drawn high in 9 and not one that can be considered until signs of a form return are evident.

8 KING SCOTT - An overall c record of 0-2-2 in 8 runs and 0-0-1 in 2 over c/d almost certainly hides the truth that he has "deserved" better. Indeed, he has not been beaten by more than 5.25l in his last 4 c starts despite being drawn 14/14, 11/11, 11/13 and 5/13 over 1450 and 1600. Also won on the turf three runs back. Had Velddrifter (no blinkers) 0.75l back over c/d in the rave won by BZ and is now 0,5kg better off and has a much improved draw. He has beaten Chedwin Park four times recently (once on turf)... the latter is much better off at the weights on the BZ run but seemingly held on the other two c runs. Brown is up on KS. A serious contender.

9 DANZIG'S ODDS - 3-2-1 in 26 c runs but just one silver in 5 attempts over c/d. Occasionally pops up with a good one but has not done so for an extended period now and looks very well held by some in this field. Really should not be able to reverse the form.

10 CHEDWIN PARK - After a series of poor draws on the c, finally cracked a decent one lto and duly obliged with a 9.25l victory over 1600. Also won on the turf in convincing style three runs back. Appie takes weight off but Brown is up on stablemate KS and his duels with that one have already been mentioned. Is drawn 7 here and that may be good enough to see him competitive and it would be no surprise to me if he went in again.

Though I discount half the field it is still a very difficult race to fancy one with any great degree of confidence imo. I give Cheshire Cat an outside chance but impossible to know how much improvement there may be from a much better draw over further. The spanner in the works could be Tobe Turf Terror with the stable improving of late. Velddrifter would be difficult to beat if recapturing his form of three runs back, Chedwin Park proved he was much better than seen to date when finally cracking a good draw and King Scott is extremely consistent and seemingly the stable elect. Gut is telling me a small e/w on TTT and... VELDDRIFTER x CHEDWIN PARK x KING SCOTT

RACE 7 - 1000 H'CAP-68

1 ROYAL ROY - Won maiden on c debut lto when supported in from 12s to 7/2. Has been off 22 weeks though since and may need it. Chance if ready but a market watch is perhaps the best approach. Drawn 6.

2 JUMBO - 1-2-1 in 15 c runs and 1-0-1 in 7 over c/d. Consistent on both turf and sand but often a bridesmaid having been beaten more than 10l only 5 times in 45 career runs but winning only twice, the last time being 14 runs back. Suspect it will be a similar story here. Drawn 12.

3 EAGLE FACE - Another somewhat of a bridesmaid, heaviest defeat being 9l in 28 career runs but winning only two, and a 0-3-0 record in 8 c/d efforts. Appie takes weight off and a chance again here, all being equal. Drawn 1.

4 BAREBACK - Not the most consistent but a better effort over 1200 lto. Is 2-1-0 in 13 c/d runs and another who has a chance though he does not appeal strongly here. Drawn 8.

5 VICTORIA'S ALBERT - Goosen. Two decent runs at Bingo were followed by a 53 week break and two disappointing efforts here. Has been rested 13 weeks again and possible there were unresolved issues on previous comeback (Louis...?). Breeding suggests a good chance of liking the sand as demonstrated by the Bingo runs Trainer in excellent form, especially here recently, and if the price permits a small e/w might be chanced. Drawn 9.

6 THE NAVIGATOR - Sand debut. Yet to finish in the top 3 since coming out of the maidens and a similar story in 8 d runs but another who runs ok without getting the bigger cheques. Nothing in the breeding to suggest he will like the surface. Can't be recommended on the little known but Gunter up. Drawn 6.

7 VICTORY CALL - Only one silver in 7 attempts at the c/d. Does not seem to be the most consistent and seemingly not stable elect but in a poor field could mount a challenge. Drawn 4.

8 JOLLY GOOD SIR - 0-1-1 in 5 c visits including a bronze in 2 c/d runs. Possibly stable elect with Brown up and comes here off a win on the turf over this d. Another possible but unlikely for me. Drawn 7.

9 TAKE ME ON - Won maiden here over 1200 at his 8th attempt but has not been in the top 3 in 8 runs since and well beaten on all 3 tries over this c/d. Has to show more before I would get involved. Drawn 11.

10 FIGURINE - 1-1-2 in 9 runs over c/d and a decent third on 2nd run after a rest when 1.25l behind Savanna M lto over c/d. That form has not been franked though and I think it unlikely she will find herself in the winner's enclosure. Drawn 12.

11 KWAAIWATER - Has a c/d record of 3-0-1 in 20 attempts but has not finished in the top 3 in her last 16 runs. No reason to suppose that will suddenly change here. Drawn 4.

13 MBOWENI - Won maiden here over c/d on her second visit but well beaten in her three runs over c/d since. Seemingly not stable elect and unlikely to feature. Drawn 5.

Not the strongest of fields so a complete shock wouldn't come as a total surprise. If the price is big enough (and it should be very big unless the bookies are now scared of him lol) I'll have a small e/w on LG's Victoria's Albert in the hope that there were issues that have now been resolved, if he has the time to give us his thoughts it would be appreciated. I have no strong fancy in the race, the Erasmus stable is likely to have a couple thereabouts but I'll very tentatively go with Royal Roy in the hope he is ready and there is more to come on the surface and that he is ready... ROYAL ROY x JOLLY GOOD SIR x VICTORY CALL

RACE 8 - 1800 H'CAP-68

2 TIPPUANA JET - Sand debut. Breeding suggests a chance of taking to the surface and in with a shout if so doing though the 12 draw won't make it easy.

3 NAD'S PRIDE - Won maiden over c/d lto with the 3rd having run 2nd since. Seems a little all or nothing type horse but seemingly stable elect with Lerena up and iif in the mood on the day then has a chance.

4 BLUE CONCORDE - 4-2-5 in 21 c runs and a very respectable 1-2-1 in 6 over c/d. Seems to hold Sugar Ray on 2 recent runs including lto when 1.75l infront and only 0.5kg worse off. In the earlier run SR was 4l back with two other rivals here following. Kudos was beaten 2.5l and is 2kg better off. Is getting better draws now and from 7 has a realistic chance.

5 DEFENDER OF PEACE - Spies/Chambers. Seems to have finally come to understand the game with a 2nd here over 1200 before winning going away over 1600 at Bingo despite losing ground at the start. This will be tougher, especially from 12, but the manner of that win implied he is coming right and another with a chance.

6 KUDOS - 2-4-7 in 27 c runs and 1-3-1 in 14 over c/d. Often thereabouts but last 3 runs have been disappointing and will need to find better form to challenge here.

7 MANCHURIAN TIGER - Matchett. Not raced on the surface for over 2 years and though that was a reasonable 4th of 13 effort over 1450, would have expected a return before now if the trainer had been impressed. Has been consistent for the most part on the turf, is on third run after a rest and has a handy draw in 4 but a watching brief for me.

8 WELLS-CARGO - Sand debut. Breeding suggests a possibility of taking to the sand. Has been running ok on the turf without ever looking particularly threatening. Trainer form a concern but has a good draw in 2 and if liking the surface is not chanceless.

9 CROKE PARK - 1 silver in 5 c visits and no top 3s in 3 d runs on the turf. Well beaten in his last 4 outings, 2 on c, and though the appie takes weight off, not one that can be recommended until form improves.

10 SUGAR RAY - Has been running consistently of late but another who has not really been threatening to win and seems held by BC. Is 1-1-1 in 9 c/d attempts and has Striker up but drawn 14 and for me more likely to be a few lengths back again.

11 TERRIBLE GULCH - Not closer than 14.75l to the winner in his 3 c runs to date. The 1 box may help him get closer but hard to see it will bring about sufficient improvement to win here.

12 VEE EIGHT - Spies. Well beaten in last two runs at Bingo and prior to that was beaten over 1450 by 20.25l in his only run here. Not stable elct, drawn 11 and should not feature.

13 USHKADEL - 1-2-1 in 9 runs over c/d but has not been within 7l of the winner in his last 6 c runs. Another who needs a form return before I could get involved.

14 COLOURS OF LOVE - No tops in 5 c visits and was beaten 12l over 1600 here lto. Drawn 15 and another who can't be recommended until showing better form on c.

15 SHADOW MODE - 1-3-1 in 17 c runs and 0-1-1 in 6 over c/d but has seemingly lost his way a little culminating in a 35l defeat lto over 1600. Form return required and probably improvement on that form to win here.

Wells Cargo and, possibly more likely, Tippuana Jet can't be discounted on their c debuts, Defender of Peace could mount a challenge if recent improvement continues over this c/d and a couple in with outsider chances if at their best. Nad's Pride showed good improvement lto and is likely to be thereabouts but I'll go with the consistent Blue Concorde to come out best in the, hopefully, lucky last... BLUE CONCORDE x NAD'S PRIDE x TIPPUANA JET

Thank you. (tu)

A lot of effort put in and i know how long it takes.........so really appreciate it E (tu)

Must thank you for your effort English

Cheers

Brad's Surge in the 3rd claimed 3x to win R62500 so far.

Thanks a good layout - perfect work thank you

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Interesting that on WBX exchange ,they can't give it away.......they are trying to lay 14/1.

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lets play stunk on betfair and ran like it needed it

I get all the betting from all SA courses sent to me with the prices and claims and I find it very interesting to note that on a whole only about 10% of horses claimed ever win. :S

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> I get all the betting from all SA courses sent to
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> interesting to note that on a whole only about 10%
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Craig,if you look at the "money horses" pages of Winning Form............the strike rate is generally very poor!

Englander, I must say u are one of the best analyzers of a horse race I have seen, did not play yesterday as i did not have money but followed
your selections, I hope you did, sure you must have made a bit?
thanx for your efforts, I do think there are a lot of guys who do not have time to study who appreciate your input
as they say "GIVE THAT MAN A BELLS" -

Thanks 007 and sorry to hear times are a little tough (td)

I will repeat though until I am blue in the face lol... my skill, if I have any (and most days I definiely do not!) is analysing what is in front of me and guessing from that info. I have none of the racing/horse knowledge that so many on ABC possess, I am sometimes in awe at their ability to find a winner and the titbits they offer are often gold dust to me... I seem to remember in the past your words of wisdom and help led me to support a horse which duly won who I hsd given no chance to. Much of it, imvho, is knowing who to listen to and when.

I would like to add one extra comment if I may and have a blardy good moan at the new P6 and specifically Mr VM. I missed out on the P6 yesterday with Jumbo and if only for a small cut, I had seven horses in that race I think (including an Erasmus runner), larger % with less horses, one of which was a scratched runner injured in the stalls (who would have won easily ). The dividend was...
Tickets = 10.28
Dividend = R 127018.40
Now, firstly, well done to anyone who got part of it (tu) Personally, I would have been very happy with a smaller cut from a smaller dividend. I would like the whole lot but I am not (too) greedy! lol To get the P6 yesterday in my view was not impossible but still needed a fair chunk of skill to get it. There were no huge shocks so there was an equal playing field, not hugely bias towards only those rich enough to do the huge permutations. I put in a lot of effort and used all my skills to try and get it. My eyes are sagging down to my top lip, my mind feels like a scrambled egg cooked far too long and I am lucky if I get more than 4 hours sleep. So Mr VM you imply again that I have to work harder and improve my skills and I will come find you and tell you in no uncertain terms where you can shove your words of wisdom But, I do understand, the well-off need to look after their own :S :X