Stallions in South Africa

Muhtiman Wrote:

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> > I would love to know ,
> > Why does outcross mating (hybrid vigour ) not
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> Who says it dosn't .........outcrossing and not
> repeating the multiples of ND and Mr P will save
> the breed..... that is why it is essential to
> cross the major lines ND Mr P and BR to get better
> performers......the modern day outcross is to mate
> ND to no ND BR and Mr P and use the examples that
> I suggested in mating with Lateral

@ Muhtiman

I agree with what you say , but

Could you please explain AP Arrow's pedigree with BR x2 in sire and ND x2 in dam ?

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> > gg Wrote:

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> @ Muhtiman
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> I agree with what you say , but
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> Could you please explain AP Arrow's pedigree
> with BR x2 in sire and ND x2 in dam ?

Yes A. P. Arrow has BR X2 but the way it in breeding speak is termed is
4 X 5 ie appears in the 4th and 5th generation. A. P. Arrow has only one
ND and one Mr P and in my book his picture is complete. He may do well
only adding more BR which like ND BR is ideal to inbreed. He stands in an
area rich in Mr P which through my research can only be multiplied successfully
In the presence of BR as they do in the States and then pump them full of drugs
so that they can race........:

Thanks appreciate the reply

I really appreciate that I can see what the experts think and say....(tu)(tu)

Muthiman you said
The reason for Silvano being head and shoulders above most is the perfect balance of breed between American influences and best of European genes......he has BR in the damline making him receptive to mares of Mr Prospector Northern Dancer and if you can still find them Bold Ruler......Lateral is limited in dimention in that his best mating mares are in Europe he needs Darshaan Mill Reef Dominion Derring Do Tankero influences which were once popular here. He may do OK with Mr P in Kingmambo and kin of Nureyev

I am not an expert like you but shouldn't this stallion do well with broodmares x Dominion Royale?, since he has Derring Do

While we picking your brains Muthiman ,another one for you ,

A Winter Romance mare x Dancing Duel x Roland Gardens .

What would a good mating be with the current stallions ?

JAMES BLOND Wrote:

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> Muthiman you said
> The reason for Silvano being head and shoulders
> above most is the perfect balance of breed between
> American influences and best of European
> genes......he has BR in the damline making him
> receptive to mares of Mr Prospector Northern
> Dancer and if you can still find them Bold
> Ruler......Lateral is limited in dimention in that
> his best mating mares are in Europe he needs
> Darshaan Mill Reef Dominion Derring Do Tankero
> influences which were once popular here. He may do
> OK with Mr P in Kingmambo and kin of Nureyev
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> I am not an expert like you but shouldn't this
> stallion do well with broodmares x Dominion
> Royale?, since he has Derring Do

BINGO .......

gg Wrote:

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> While we picking your brains Muthiman ,another
> one for you ,
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> A Winter Romance mare x Dancing Duel x Roland
> Gardens .
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> What would a good mating be with the current
> stallions ?

...Sires sons of Storm Cat.......

Sure Judpot has just won an award at the cape awards ?

hibernia Wrote:

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> Sure Judpot has just won an award at the cape
> awards ?


Not bad for yet another unraced stallion.......:

Judpot is off to a smashing start having early graded success and he will continue to produce some very classy offspring......his sire fee will continue to escalate accordingly ......what makes him very appealling is the great dam in one of Nureyev's best female progeny Miesque and here no Mr P so that you now can take almost any mare to him.....Nureyev finds big affinity to BR rich American types as does his inlfluences gel with European breeds......those in KZN that want something similar and more affordable that will do just well with Mr P and Danzig mares should look at......Just As Well......a well performed Gr1 winning son of A P Indy also out of a Nureyev mare that is screaming for that Natal overpopulated Mr P Danzig bands of mares......:

mhuti i sent you a pm!!!