VAAL SAND - Thursday 6th JUNE

Englander Wrote:

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> durb Wrote:
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> > This is not horseracing it is totally
> inconsistent
> > the formbook goes straight out the window it
> just
> > shows what s**t horses we got in this country
> > unreliable at best the bookies smiling all the
> way
> > to the bank
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> I don't think that is a fair comment of this
> course Durban, sure shocks happen here too and no
> doubt there is some wheeling n dealing that goes
> on but generally there is more consistency on the
> Vaal sand than anywhere else in recent times
> imho... today is not a good measure, as many said
> it is a particularly difficult/poor card for the
> most part and probably a dangerous one to have a
> serious punt. Now, if you had said it at any other
> venue's meeting... <


sure englander we had two pick six carryovers in two days here in sa it just seems to be so inconsistent here in sa lately and not only the vaal.I know vaal has been pretty good to us lately but the form in normal races in sa just does not stand up lately that is showing that the horses are very mediocre

Englander Wrote:

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> Interview after Giro Jet's win... asks the
> trainer's (Marwing) rep for comments on later
> runners.... "er, er, quartet chances"
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> Terrific, really farking helpful, two runners left
> and both fav or 2nd fav... thanks a lot bud (td)


Thats why you also get certain trainers faaaaarking their owners sideways by selling horses on their behalf and take almost half the price he got into his own pocket , these trainers definitely NOT living with heart < and feel nothing for the public and punters also <

punters Azzied yet again

And Aucharuz wins the race.....

Another example englander money for decameron and they come in with their 16-1stable companion it just does not make sense to me.The people who train these horses do not even know what is going on.And the two favourites run unplaced I love this game but lately it is just throwing money down the drain.

VAAL
1 2 3 4 7 9/ 12/ 1 2 6 8 9 10
11 12/ 2 4 6 7/
Jackpot
0.00 / 45.00
45.00
- 45.00
Pending

coming back to the interview I thought I saw the guy walking away when the question was asked hence the feeling that how his answer came out was like how I said it.
Tough game this like we just insulted a bit the lad and he comes and show us up!this is my lesson for today.

How Selbourne Supremacy could end up as favourite is beyond me - the Tarry stable in Gauteng has been out of sorts for a while now - had the field in the JP - but now only Dalalaat, Georgia on my Mind and Delta Lioness

durb Wrote:

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> Another example englander money for decameron and
> they come in with their 16-1stable companion it
> just does not make sense to me.The people who
> train these horses do not even know what is going
> on.And the two favourites run unplaced I love this
> game but lately it is just throwing money down the
> drain.

Durb... sorry (genuinely lol) and to Keniza... but I have to disagree again. Trainer's son said earlier when interviewed that he thought Decameron had a good chance but the punters should not ignore Panjo, he said something along the lines of he would be keen if it wasn't for the draw, I think that was a very fair comment and I would also have been keen but for the draw, as per my useless write-up!

I certainly don't disagree regarding the inconsistency, some of which just happens and is life, some of which I am sure people make happen, which is not life, it is simply wrong. But, while the authorities seemingly sit around doing nothing about it and seemingly not even caring about it as long as their coffers get filled then us mugs will continue to suffer. Corruption or similar is rife in SA apparently, why should SA Racing be any different?

Englander Wrote:

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> durb Wrote:
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> > Another example englander money for decameron
> and
> > they come in with their 16-1stable companion it
> > just does not make sense to me.The people who
> > train these horses do not even know what is
> going
> > on.And the two favourites run unplaced I love
> this
> > game but lately it is just throwing money down
> the
> > drain.
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> Durb... sorry (genuinely lol) and to Keniza... but
> I have to disagree again. Trainer's son said
> earlier when interviewed that he thought Decameron
> had a good chance but the punters should not
> ignore Panjo, he said something along the lines of
> he would be keen if it wasn't for the draw, I
> think that was a very fair comment and I would
> also have been keen but for the draw, as per my
> useless write-up!
>
> I certainly don't disagree regarding the
> inconsistency, some of which just happens and is
> life, some of which I am sure people make happen,
> which is not life, it is simply wrong. But, while
> the authorities seemingly sit around doing nothing
> about it and seemingly not even caring about it as
> long as their coffers get filled then us mugs will
> continue to suffer. Corruption or similar is rife
> in SA apparently, why should SA Racing be any
> different?


100% englander but i am sure most people in sa racing are not crooks we just got mediocre horses here.And why no money for panjo?If I was the owner or trainer and had money down on decameron and his stable companion beat it(and it did) i would be really pissed off.

Georgia On My Mind

durb Wrote:

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> 100% englander but i am sure most people in sa
> racing are not crooks we just got mediocre horses
> here.And why no money for panjo?If I was the owner
> or trainer and had money down on decameron and his
> stable companion beat it(and it did) i would be
> really pissed off.

I am sure there are plenty of honest people in SA racing Durb.

Panjo... I think for the reason I said bud, most punters and the stable I think would have preferred Decameron over Panjo because of the draw and it was proven on the surface. Azzie should never be ignored on the sand though and the horse has "sand breeding". The owners of Decameron might be pissed off but I would think Azzie told them to do it e/w if anything, it was certainly no good thing pre-race imo. Unusually, watching Georgia OMM as well, the ground seems to be better wide over 1200 today which is very unusual, if you look at the graph for winners over 1200 on the Vaal sand draw 1 seems to give a horse a much better chance than draw 12. If they had been drawn 1 and 2 the market would probably have been very different, I certainly would have had a little on Panjo if that was the case, unfortunately Legeti was the newcomer drawn inside and that is the newcomer I backed but no surprise to me Panjo won it

Brave n good call Pirho (tu)