VAAL SAND - Thursday 6th JUNE
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Re: Re: VAAL SAND - Thursday 6th JUNE
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Hi Buddys ..
Stydom has 2 rides for the day &both of them are number 2 in the card,just hoping they don't run 2nd.
Stydom has 2 rides for the day &both of them are number 2 in the card,just hoping they don't run 2nd.

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Re: Re: VAAL SAND - Thursday 6th JUNE
12 years 1 week ago
Thanks Suleman... noticed that when doing my write-up and then forgot to mention it or do the double
have now done so... really good for me when, either directly relating it to my waffle or just doing a.n.other post, clanners mention things that I have overlooked, got wrong etc (tu)

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Re: Re: VAAL SAND - Thursday 6th JUNE
12 years 1 week ago
The Happy Horseplayer Wrote:
> Speed ratings for main contenders with previous
> Vaal Sand form –
>
> R1 MDN-F 1000m
> 68…Favourite Daughter
> 67…Copper Gaia
> 61…For Your Eyes Only
> ??…Apple Tart
> ??…Tell My Star
> The dam Apple Fair has produced some useful sand
> performers in the past and Apple Tart appeals here
> in this very moderate field. Favourite Daughter
> has been consistent enough on sand to be the
> confident banker in quartets. Dare I say anything
> about Mrs.Pip…know nothing! (except full sister
> has run 4 good races over VS 1000m).
>
> R2 MR84F 1800m
> 96…Shattered Image
> 95…Rivulet
> 94…Lucky Hand
> 87…Elegant Bay
> 85… Aloha Bay
> Tricky race with fluctuating recent form for most
> of the contestants.
> Shattered Image has been very consistent over the
> last few years and is the selection here in spite
> of disappointing lto. Rivulet’s win in the Queen
> o/t Sand was incredible yet I think tactics/pace
> set it up and doubtful that it will apply again
> today. Respect STP runners on the sand yet
> difficult to assess…guess Lucky Hand is the
> one.
>
> R3 MDN 1800m
> 81…Sir Swarovski
> 76…Perfect Vision
> 74…Atlas Grove
> 72…Noble Wind
> 59…Lead by Approval
> 58…Giro Jet
> ??…Greystone
> Sir Swarovski is looking the PA banker and
> probably ‘value’ as many may find Greystone
> attractive. Perfection Vision and Atlas Grove
> improved lto and repeat performances should see
> them feature again here ( think the African Flame
> form line is superior to that of Cockney Tiger).
>
> R4 MDN-F 1450
> ??…Water Bird
> 75…Cerise Silk
> 72…Shirla
> 61…Inn on the Square
> 30…Razzmatazz
> MGA runners always interesting on the sand,
> especially in a weak field.
> Although Cerise Silk ran her best race lto think
> Shirla could be a better proposition in the PA.
> Think the Melli Mou form line of 4th April is
> solid and possibly Razzmatazz can get into the
> quartet.
>
> R5 MR63F 1450m
> 90…Olympic Spring
> 80…Perfect Winter
> 80…Lady Julia
> 79…Spiritofamphitrite
> 75…Set to Strike
> 75…Miravar
> 75…Dying Thunder
> 75…Sucha Wonder
> Whilst Olympic Spring has all the credentials to
> do well again here the race has ‘upset’
> written all over it! Think Lady Julia was
> flattered in her last race.
> Leaning towards Set to Strike and expect some good
> ‘value’ in the betting markets.
>
> R6 MR80 1450m
> 92…Authenticated
> 90…Sermon
> 88…Rockingandrolling
> 85…National Road
> 84…Decameron
> 84…Senechal
> ??…Selborne Supremacy
> ??…Panjo
> Another tricky race with chances to many!
> Think Sermon can feature here, yet cannot leave
> out the MGA and SGT couplings in the P6, (even
> though SGT has been very disappointing with his
> sand runners the last 3 meetings). Authenticated
> has shown good recent form and is an obvious
> contender.
>
> R7 MR82F 1200m
> 96…Georgia on my Mind
> 92…Dalalaat
> 91…To Remember
> 90…Delta Lioness
> 86…Cante Libre
> 86…Mexican Glory
> 86…Hotel Royale
> Taking a chance and throwing out those drawn above
> 7 (at least in P6+JP)…bye bye Georgia on my
> Mind, Amazing Grace and Cante Libre.
> Hello Dalalaat and Delta Lioness. Have previously
> expressed feelings that Mexican Glory can make it
> back into the winners box…showed ‘sign of
> life’ lto.
>
> R8 MR67F 1200m
> 86…Velvet Jar
> 85…Melli Mou
> 84…Weekend Special
> 83…Beautiful Dawn
> 83…Hard to Resist
> 79…Kailani
> 74…Tacit Tiger
> ??…Hlatikulu
> Shapes up as the most open race of the day.
> Throwing out those drawn above 7 again…except
> Melli Mou because the form looks strong and
> STP/MvR often do well from poor draws. Bye bye
> Velvet Jar, Beatiful Dawn and Hard to Resist.
> Weekend Special and Kailani are legitimate
> contenders and Ask Me shall be included in some
> bets (stated on 9th May as well as
> Bareback-ouch!).
>
> Interesting for me to get it out before the
> betting!
Thank you for the effort and great insight.
> Speed ratings for main contenders with previous
> Vaal Sand form –
>
> R1 MDN-F 1000m
> 68…Favourite Daughter
> 67…Copper Gaia
> 61…For Your Eyes Only
> ??…Apple Tart
> ??…Tell My Star
> The dam Apple Fair has produced some useful sand
> performers in the past and Apple Tart appeals here
> in this very moderate field. Favourite Daughter
> has been consistent enough on sand to be the
> confident banker in quartets. Dare I say anything
> about Mrs.Pip…know nothing! (except full sister
> has run 4 good races over VS 1000m).
>
> R2 MR84F 1800m
> 96…Shattered Image
> 95…Rivulet
> 94…Lucky Hand
> 87…Elegant Bay
> 85… Aloha Bay
> Tricky race with fluctuating recent form for most
> of the contestants.
> Shattered Image has been very consistent over the
> last few years and is the selection here in spite
> of disappointing lto. Rivulet’s win in the Queen
> o/t Sand was incredible yet I think tactics/pace
> set it up and doubtful that it will apply again
> today. Respect STP runners on the sand yet
> difficult to assess…guess Lucky Hand is the
> one.
>
> R3 MDN 1800m
> 81…Sir Swarovski
> 76…Perfect Vision
> 74…Atlas Grove
> 72…Noble Wind
> 59…Lead by Approval
> 58…Giro Jet
> ??…Greystone
> Sir Swarovski is looking the PA banker and
> probably ‘value’ as many may find Greystone
> attractive. Perfection Vision and Atlas Grove
> improved lto and repeat performances should see
> them feature again here ( think the African Flame
> form line is superior to that of Cockney Tiger).
>
> R4 MDN-F 1450
> ??…Water Bird
> 75…Cerise Silk
> 72…Shirla
> 61…Inn on the Square
> 30…Razzmatazz
> MGA runners always interesting on the sand,
> especially in a weak field.
> Although Cerise Silk ran her best race lto think
> Shirla could be a better proposition in the PA.
> Think the Melli Mou form line of 4th April is
> solid and possibly Razzmatazz can get into the
> quartet.
>
> R5 MR63F 1450m
> 90…Olympic Spring
> 80…Perfect Winter
> 80…Lady Julia
> 79…Spiritofamphitrite
> 75…Set to Strike
> 75…Miravar
> 75…Dying Thunder
> 75…Sucha Wonder
> Whilst Olympic Spring has all the credentials to
> do well again here the race has ‘upset’
> written all over it! Think Lady Julia was
> flattered in her last race.
> Leaning towards Set to Strike and expect some good
> ‘value’ in the betting markets.
>
> R6 MR80 1450m
> 92…Authenticated
> 90…Sermon
> 88…Rockingandrolling
> 85…National Road
> 84…Decameron
> 84…Senechal
> ??…Selborne Supremacy
> ??…Panjo
> Another tricky race with chances to many!
> Think Sermon can feature here, yet cannot leave
> out the MGA and SGT couplings in the P6, (even
> though SGT has been very disappointing with his
> sand runners the last 3 meetings). Authenticated
> has shown good recent form and is an obvious
> contender.
>
> R7 MR82F 1200m
> 96…Georgia on my Mind
> 92…Dalalaat
> 91…To Remember
> 90…Delta Lioness
> 86…Cante Libre
> 86…Mexican Glory
> 86…Hotel Royale
> Taking a chance and throwing out those drawn above
> 7 (at least in P6+JP)…bye bye Georgia on my
> Mind, Amazing Grace and Cante Libre.
> Hello Dalalaat and Delta Lioness. Have previously
> expressed feelings that Mexican Glory can make it
> back into the winners box…showed ‘sign of
> life’ lto.
>
> R8 MR67F 1200m
> 86…Velvet Jar
> 85…Melli Mou
> 84…Weekend Special
> 83…Beautiful Dawn
> 83…Hard to Resist
> 79…Kailani
> 74…Tacit Tiger
> ??…Hlatikulu
> Shapes up as the most open race of the day.
> Throwing out those drawn above 7 again…except
> Melli Mou because the form looks strong and
> STP/MvR often do well from poor draws. Bye bye
> Velvet Jar, Beatiful Dawn and Hard to Resist.
> Weekend Special and Kailani are legitimate
> contenders and Ask Me shall be included in some
> bets (stated on 9th May as well as
> Bareback-ouch!).
>
> Interesting for me to get it out before the
> betting!
Thank you for the effort and great insight.
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Re: Re: VAAL SAND - Thursday 6th JUNE
12 years 1 week ago
Englander Wrote:
> Got a spare 10 minutes? Then I'll begin... some
> tough races to try and decipher and won't be
> surprised if my selections are way off the mark,
> but where ther's life...
- Sightly different
> "style" of writing today and have not let THH
> influence me (yet
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>
> R1 Tell My Star... decent sand sire and trainer,
> is likely to take to the surface and has a chance.
> Favourite Daughter... runs consistently but
> unfortunately always seems to be a few lengths
> short of good enough. 50% top 3 record on course,
> 66% c and d. Shreya's Angel... by Mogok. From
> debut sand run the 2nd, 3rd and 4th have all
> subsequently won, SA was 6 lengths behind the 4th
> though. The 6th, For Your Eyes Only (0.25l back)
> has run 3rd since, 1.25l behind Copper Gaia on the
> latter's sand debut. FYEO... the horse mentioned
> above, is now 1.5kgs better off with both SA and
> CG, only one top 3 finish in 8 course visits. Sky
> Chase... if takes to the sand, and there is a
> little in the breeding to suggest he might, could
> surprise at a huge price but a history of slow
> starts. Apple Tart... first timer, another from
> the SJG yard and breeding suggests he might like
> the surface. Mrs Pip... debut runner from inform
> Louis G yard. Patrone... sand debutant from inform
> Kenny yard and received a little market support
> over this distance last run. The remainder... no
> obvious reason to me why they should not be "also
> rans". Selection... Tell My Star x Fav Daughter x
> Copper Gaia or Sky Brave
>
> R2 Shattered Image... rarely runs a bad race, she
> has 3 wins in a total of 10/17 top 3 course
> finishes. Tries trip for the first time. Did
> finish 2.5l infront of Rivulet (now 2.5kgs worse
> off) in March over 1600 (Top Talent race) but last
> time out over the same distance was beaten over 3l
> by Rivulet. The latter, who now also gets the 1
> box, has two wins in a 5/6 top 3 course record, is
> 4/6 top 3 at the distance and is yet to be out of
> the top 3 in 3 c and d runs. Pintari, ran at Bingo
> again on Monday where previously won by 12l on
> sand debut. Course debut today but running
> consistently well recently and has one gold and
> two silvers from 3 distance runs, represents the
> strong Spies/Chambers combination. Forward Cover,
> course debut and second run after a 21 week rest,
> represents the GVZ stable and if takes to the
> surface should be thereabouts. Was over 3l behind
> Pintari on last turf run but should have come on
> for the run. Lucky Hand... last two runs were poor
> including when finishing behind SI, Aloha Bay and
> Elegant Bay last time over 1450, but won only
> other course visit by 12 lengths and has a win and
> a third in 3 distance runs. EB ran close to SI and
> AB last time out when returning from a rest and
> may improve for the run if not suffering 2nd run
> after a rest syndrome, previously won course debut
> (1450 maiden) by over 4ls and the 2nd, 3rd,5th,
> 6th and 9th have all won a race since but is
> unplaced in 2 distance attempts. AB, last run
> documented and has been well beaten last 3
> occasions over this distance or further.
> Selection... Rivulet x Shattered Image x Forward
> Cover
>
> R3 Greystone... could well win but, although
> trained by de Kock, there is nothing that says he
> will take to the course, has a wide draw and is
> short-priced, not for me. Giro Jet... failed to
> perform on his only visit to the course and
> although possibly slow away that day and the
> trainer form good, there is no real evidence to
> suggest there will be a big improvement. Sir
> Swarovski... although seemingly not the strongest
> of fields, SS ran second on his sand debut over
> 1450 from a poor draw and if staying the distance
> should be thereabouts but, again, the draw could
> be better. Maybe Baby... has one silver and 6
> bronze in 17 course visits but recent form very
> poor and will need considerable improvement to
> feature. Noble Wind... has one bronze in 5 visits
> but has run decently on the surface on occasion
> and given the poor nature of the field must have
> something of a chance from a good draw. Nothing
> else really has any obvious appeal for me but I
> would not be surprised if one comes out and runs
> far beyond expectations and takes the spoils.
> Selection... Sir Swarovski x Noble Wind x
> Greystone
>
> R4 Inn On The Square... 2nd 7 times and 3rd 3
> times in 15 course runs, IOTS has been very
> frustrating/expensive to follow, has seemingly
> struggled lately and not for me again. Cerise
> Silk... although contradicted by earlier form, CS
> has the beating of IOTS on the run behind Lady
> Julia, is 3/4 for top 3 finishes over c and d and
> from an ok draw has a chance. Shirla... seemed to
> improve on sand debut last time out (IOTS over 6ls
> behind but IOTS may have needed the run), inform
> appie takes weight off again and has had some
> market support in recent runs. Not drawn well but
> another who must have a chance. Razzmatazz...
> shown little including on course debut (1000) but
> being by Spectrum could improve over more ground
> from a good draw at a big price. In My Secret
> Life... from the SJG stable with Chambers up but
> nothing to suggest she will be a strong sand
> runner. Water Bird... inform Azzie/Fradd combine
> and could well win but again the price is too
> short for me to be interested. Selection... Cerise
> Silk x Shirla x Razzmatazz
>
> R5 Lady Julia... has a win and a third from 2 c
> and d runs but is drawn very wide here and may
> struggle to get position. Perfect Winter... has 3
> top 3 finishes in 9 course visits but form on the
> sand has not been inspiring of late and can be
> slowly away. That said, it was possibly the wrong
> decision to remove the blinkers last time and has
> a decent draw here which has not always been the
> case recently. Olympic Spring... last two have
> been decent and this is third run after a rest.
> Draw is not good but has won from poor draws
> previously. Spiritofamphritite... has 3 thirds in
> 5 course runs but no places in 4 distance runs,
> poor draw. Burning Embers... if coming on from the
> last run and not suffering 2nd run after a rest
> then possibly has a chance at a big price. Drawn
> well in 3, and has 3 3rds in 5 course runs,
> including one at the distance which may suit him
> best. Dying Thunder... a fair effort to run 5th
> beaten 3ls from a poor draw on sand debut last
> time out over 1200 but is drawn badly again.
> Miravar... represents the Azzie/Fradd combination
> from an ok draw and recent turf runs have been
> good but too short in the market for me for a
> horse that has one silver in 4 course runs and has
> not won at the distance though placed 4/6. Some of
> the others have course form in their past and a
> big shock would not be a major surprise.
> Selection... Olympic Spring x Perfect Winter x
> Lady Julia
>
> R6 National Road... third on only course attempt
> over 1000 but is 0/4 top 3 at the distance and
> does tend to weaken and shoulders a big mass.
> Selbourne Supremacy... good chance on breeding of
> enjoying the sand and ran a decent third first
> time over the distance last time out. Has a big
> mass but well drawn and Striker rides.
> Seneschal... ran second on debut over this c and d
> and has been consistent on the turf since. Not the
> best draw but won with this jockey last time and
> has a good chance. Decameron... Azzie/Fradd, well
> drawn and some ok turf form but was soundly beaten
> only course attempt and would need to do better on
> the surface before I would support.
> Rockingandrolling... 4 course wins in 19 runs but
> none at the distance and recent form not the best.
> Sermon... has a 4-1-2 c and d record in 18 runs
> but another whose recent form has perhaps not seen
> him at his best. Authenticated... 2nd run after a
> rest but if that is not an issue then not without
> a chance. 3rd twice in 3 c and d runs and has a
> decent draw. Panjo... seemingly well bred for the
> surface and thus must have a chance, especially
> with the appie taking weight off but drawn badly.
> Ligeti... breeding suggests he may take to the
> surface, if he does then with a very light weight
> and a good draw he could well be thereabouts at a
> decent price. Selection... Selbourne Supremacy x
> Seneschal x Ligeti
>
> R7 Amazing Grace... was in a competitive line up
> when beaten just under 6ls on her only sand run
> over 1000. Has won last twice on second run after
> a 10 week or longer break and has a chance but not
> the best of draws. Dalalaat... has a win and two
> bronze from 5 course visits, 1-0-1 at c and d,
> running from poll with PS up must have a chance.
> Mexican Glory... has 3 wins and 3 seconds from 19
> course runs but only one silver in 9 distance
> runs, seems inconsistent and is not one I would
> chance unless a huge price becomes available.
> Hotel Royale... one third in 8 c and d runs and
> from a wide draw, not for me. Cante Libre... 2
> wins in 7 c and d runs but has not seemed in the
> best of form recently, looks held by Georgia On My
> Mind and runs from a wide draw. To Remember... a
> win and second in 5 c and d runs but another who
> does not seem to be in the best form of late.
> Georgia OMM... 5 top 3 finishes in 7 course runs
> with a 1st, 2nd and 4th in 3 c and d runs.
> Consistent form and must still have a chance
> despite a poor draw. Stamford Bridge... good draw
> and low weight and could surprise but form since
> rest has been poor, dreadful name too! Delta
> Lioness... 1st and 3rd in 5 c and d runs and
> beaten 1.5ls by GOMM last time out. Only 0.5kgs
> better off but importantly goes from the 12 box to
> the 2 box while GOMM goes from 4 to 9. Some
> conflicting formlines also involved but possibly
> best to stay with those with good runs in recent
> times... selection... Delta Lioness x Dalalaat x
> GOMM
>
> R8 Hard To Resist... two good runs over this c and
> d, 5th beaten under 4ls when returning from an 11
> week break and then, following 2 poor efforts over
> further, returned to win well from a poor draw
> last time out and same appie is on again, trainer
> in very good form and though goes from a similar
> draw today, must have a big chance. Tacit Tiger...
> a first and second from only 2 course runs both
> over this distance must give her a chance but
> coming out the maidens and is drawn badly.
> Udomo... breeding suggests she may improve on her
> first sand effort but will be difficult today from
> a poor draw following a 14 week rest. Melli Mou...
> two good runs, winning maiden last time out here
> over 1000 but another who may find it tough coming
> out of the maidens from a poor draw. Velvet Jar...
> won over c and d last time but poor draw and not
> convinced that form is strong. Ask Me... poor
> recent form (over further) but does have 3 silvers
> in 6 c and d runs and at a big price she could be
> be worth a nibble from an ok draw. Beautiful
> Dawn... poor draw and no obvious reason why she
> should reverse form with VJ. Feel the Surge...
> decent draw and 3rd run after a rest but well
> beaten on only sand run over 1000. Weekend
> Special... has the 1 box and likely to reverse
> form with VJ with the change in draws. Also has a
> decent draw change on the form with HTR behind
> Zephyr Breeze in Feb but HTR was coming off a
> break and finished 4.5ls ahead with no change to
> the weights. Summer Sari... overall record of
> 1-1-1 in 5 c and d runs but seemingly very poor of
> late... a sudden return to form could see some
> furious punters! Kailani... another potential
> joker, seemingly well held by a few from the VJ
> race but was drawn 12 that day on sand debut and
> is drawn 2 today, breeding also suggests that she
> could be a sand performer. Selection... Hard To
> Resist x Ask Me x Kailani
>
> Be(s)t of luck to all (tu)
Cheers. I fancy Cherise Silk
> Got a spare 10 minutes? Then I'll begin... some
> tough races to try and decipher and won't be
> surprised if my selections are way off the mark,
> but where ther's life...

> "style" of writing today and have not let THH
> influence me (yet


>
> R1 Tell My Star... decent sand sire and trainer,
> is likely to take to the surface and has a chance.
> Favourite Daughter... runs consistently but
> unfortunately always seems to be a few lengths
> short of good enough. 50% top 3 record on course,
> 66% c and d. Shreya's Angel... by Mogok. From
> debut sand run the 2nd, 3rd and 4th have all
> subsequently won, SA was 6 lengths behind the 4th
> though. The 6th, For Your Eyes Only (0.25l back)
> has run 3rd since, 1.25l behind Copper Gaia on the
> latter's sand debut. FYEO... the horse mentioned
> above, is now 1.5kgs better off with both SA and
> CG, only one top 3 finish in 8 course visits. Sky
> Chase... if takes to the sand, and there is a
> little in the breeding to suggest he might, could
> surprise at a huge price but a history of slow
> starts. Apple Tart... first timer, another from
> the SJG yard and breeding suggests he might like
> the surface. Mrs Pip... debut runner from inform
> Louis G yard. Patrone... sand debutant from inform
> Kenny yard and received a little market support
> over this distance last run. The remainder... no
> obvious reason to me why they should not be "also
> rans". Selection... Tell My Star x Fav Daughter x
> Copper Gaia or Sky Brave
>
> R2 Shattered Image... rarely runs a bad race, she
> has 3 wins in a total of 10/17 top 3 course
> finishes. Tries trip for the first time. Did
> finish 2.5l infront of Rivulet (now 2.5kgs worse
> off) in March over 1600 (Top Talent race) but last
> time out over the same distance was beaten over 3l
> by Rivulet. The latter, who now also gets the 1
> box, has two wins in a 5/6 top 3 course record, is
> 4/6 top 3 at the distance and is yet to be out of
> the top 3 in 3 c and d runs. Pintari, ran at Bingo
> again on Monday where previously won by 12l on
> sand debut. Course debut today but running
> consistently well recently and has one gold and
> two silvers from 3 distance runs, represents the
> strong Spies/Chambers combination. Forward Cover,
> course debut and second run after a 21 week rest,
> represents the GVZ stable and if takes to the
> surface should be thereabouts. Was over 3l behind
> Pintari on last turf run but should have come on
> for the run. Lucky Hand... last two runs were poor
> including when finishing behind SI, Aloha Bay and
> Elegant Bay last time over 1450, but won only
> other course visit by 12 lengths and has a win and
> a third in 3 distance runs. EB ran close to SI and
> AB last time out when returning from a rest and
> may improve for the run if not suffering 2nd run
> after a rest syndrome, previously won course debut
> (1450 maiden) by over 4ls and the 2nd, 3rd,5th,
> 6th and 9th have all won a race since but is
> unplaced in 2 distance attempts. AB, last run
> documented and has been well beaten last 3
> occasions over this distance or further.
> Selection... Rivulet x Shattered Image x Forward
> Cover
>
> R3 Greystone... could well win but, although
> trained by de Kock, there is nothing that says he
> will take to the course, has a wide draw and is
> short-priced, not for me. Giro Jet... failed to
> perform on his only visit to the course and
> although possibly slow away that day and the
> trainer form good, there is no real evidence to
> suggest there will be a big improvement. Sir
> Swarovski... although seemingly not the strongest
> of fields, SS ran second on his sand debut over
> 1450 from a poor draw and if staying the distance
> should be thereabouts but, again, the draw could
> be better. Maybe Baby... has one silver and 6
> bronze in 17 course visits but recent form very
> poor and will need considerable improvement to
> feature. Noble Wind... has one bronze in 5 visits
> but has run decently on the surface on occasion
> and given the poor nature of the field must have
> something of a chance from a good draw. Nothing
> else really has any obvious appeal for me but I
> would not be surprised if one comes out and runs
> far beyond expectations and takes the spoils.
> Selection... Sir Swarovski x Noble Wind x
> Greystone
>
> R4 Inn On The Square... 2nd 7 times and 3rd 3
> times in 15 course runs, IOTS has been very
> frustrating/expensive to follow, has seemingly
> struggled lately and not for me again. Cerise
> Silk... although contradicted by earlier form, CS
> has the beating of IOTS on the run behind Lady
> Julia, is 3/4 for top 3 finishes over c and d and
> from an ok draw has a chance. Shirla... seemed to
> improve on sand debut last time out (IOTS over 6ls
> behind but IOTS may have needed the run), inform
> appie takes weight off again and has had some
> market support in recent runs. Not drawn well but
> another who must have a chance. Razzmatazz...
> shown little including on course debut (1000) but
> being by Spectrum could improve over more ground
> from a good draw at a big price. In My Secret
> Life... from the SJG stable with Chambers up but
> nothing to suggest she will be a strong sand
> runner. Water Bird... inform Azzie/Fradd combine
> and could well win but again the price is too
> short for me to be interested. Selection... Cerise
> Silk x Shirla x Razzmatazz
>
> R5 Lady Julia... has a win and a third from 2 c
> and d runs but is drawn very wide here and may
> struggle to get position. Perfect Winter... has 3
> top 3 finishes in 9 course visits but form on the
> sand has not been inspiring of late and can be
> slowly away. That said, it was possibly the wrong
> decision to remove the blinkers last time and has
> a decent draw here which has not always been the
> case recently. Olympic Spring... last two have
> been decent and this is third run after a rest.
> Draw is not good but has won from poor draws
> previously. Spiritofamphritite... has 3 thirds in
> 5 course runs but no places in 4 distance runs,
> poor draw. Burning Embers... if coming on from the
> last run and not suffering 2nd run after a rest
> then possibly has a chance at a big price. Drawn
> well in 3, and has 3 3rds in 5 course runs,
> including one at the distance which may suit him
> best. Dying Thunder... a fair effort to run 5th
> beaten 3ls from a poor draw on sand debut last
> time out over 1200 but is drawn badly again.
> Miravar... represents the Azzie/Fradd combination
> from an ok draw and recent turf runs have been
> good but too short in the market for me for a
> horse that has one silver in 4 course runs and has
> not won at the distance though placed 4/6. Some of
> the others have course form in their past and a
> big shock would not be a major surprise.
> Selection... Olympic Spring x Perfect Winter x
> Lady Julia
>
> R6 National Road... third on only course attempt
> over 1000 but is 0/4 top 3 at the distance and
> does tend to weaken and shoulders a big mass.
> Selbourne Supremacy... good chance on breeding of
> enjoying the sand and ran a decent third first
> time over the distance last time out. Has a big
> mass but well drawn and Striker rides.
> Seneschal... ran second on debut over this c and d
> and has been consistent on the turf since. Not the
> best draw but won with this jockey last time and
> has a good chance. Decameron... Azzie/Fradd, well
> drawn and some ok turf form but was soundly beaten
> only course attempt and would need to do better on
> the surface before I would support.
> Rockingandrolling... 4 course wins in 19 runs but
> none at the distance and recent form not the best.
> Sermon... has a 4-1-2 c and d record in 18 runs
> but another whose recent form has perhaps not seen
> him at his best. Authenticated... 2nd run after a
> rest but if that is not an issue then not without
> a chance. 3rd twice in 3 c and d runs and has a
> decent draw. Panjo... seemingly well bred for the
> surface and thus must have a chance, especially
> with the appie taking weight off but drawn badly.
> Ligeti... breeding suggests he may take to the
> surface, if he does then with a very light weight
> and a good draw he could well be thereabouts at a
> decent price. Selection... Selbourne Supremacy x
> Seneschal x Ligeti
>
> R7 Amazing Grace... was in a competitive line up
> when beaten just under 6ls on her only sand run
> over 1000. Has won last twice on second run after
> a 10 week or longer break and has a chance but not
> the best of draws. Dalalaat... has a win and two
> bronze from 5 course visits, 1-0-1 at c and d,
> running from poll with PS up must have a chance.
> Mexican Glory... has 3 wins and 3 seconds from 19
> course runs but only one silver in 9 distance
> runs, seems inconsistent and is not one I would
> chance unless a huge price becomes available.
> Hotel Royale... one third in 8 c and d runs and
> from a wide draw, not for me. Cante Libre... 2
> wins in 7 c and d runs but has not seemed in the
> best of form recently, looks held by Georgia On My
> Mind and runs from a wide draw. To Remember... a
> win and second in 5 c and d runs but another who
> does not seem to be in the best form of late.
> Georgia OMM... 5 top 3 finishes in 7 course runs
> with a 1st, 2nd and 4th in 3 c and d runs.
> Consistent form and must still have a chance
> despite a poor draw. Stamford Bridge... good draw
> and low weight and could surprise but form since
> rest has been poor, dreadful name too! Delta
> Lioness... 1st and 3rd in 5 c and d runs and
> beaten 1.5ls by GOMM last time out. Only 0.5kgs
> better off but importantly goes from the 12 box to
> the 2 box while GOMM goes from 4 to 9. Some
> conflicting formlines also involved but possibly
> best to stay with those with good runs in recent
> times... selection... Delta Lioness x Dalalaat x
> GOMM
>
> R8 Hard To Resist... two good runs over this c and
> d, 5th beaten under 4ls when returning from an 11
> week break and then, following 2 poor efforts over
> further, returned to win well from a poor draw
> last time out and same appie is on again, trainer
> in very good form and though goes from a similar
> draw today, must have a big chance. Tacit Tiger...
> a first and second from only 2 course runs both
> over this distance must give her a chance but
> coming out the maidens and is drawn badly.
> Udomo... breeding suggests she may improve on her
> first sand effort but will be difficult today from
> a poor draw following a 14 week rest. Melli Mou...
> two good runs, winning maiden last time out here
> over 1000 but another who may find it tough coming
> out of the maidens from a poor draw. Velvet Jar...
> won over c and d last time but poor draw and not
> convinced that form is strong. Ask Me... poor
> recent form (over further) but does have 3 silvers
> in 6 c and d runs and at a big price she could be
> be worth a nibble from an ok draw. Beautiful
> Dawn... poor draw and no obvious reason why she
> should reverse form with VJ. Feel the Surge...
> decent draw and 3rd run after a rest but well
> beaten on only sand run over 1000. Weekend
> Special... has the 1 box and likely to reverse
> form with VJ with the change in draws. Also has a
> decent draw change on the form with HTR behind
> Zephyr Breeze in Feb but HTR was coming off a
> break and finished 4.5ls ahead with no change to
> the weights. Summer Sari... overall record of
> 1-1-1 in 5 c and d runs but seemingly very poor of
> late... a sudden return to form could see some
> furious punters! Kailani... another potential
> joker, seemingly well held by a few from the VJ
> race but was drawn 12 that day on sand debut and
> is drawn 2 today, breeding also suggests that she
> could be a sand performer. Selection... Hard To
> Resist x Ask Me x Kailani
>
> Be(s)t of luck to all (tu)
Cheers. I fancy Cherise Silk
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Re: Re: VAAL SAND - Thursday 6th JUNE
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> Everytime I read these posts on this site I am
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I concur. Top guys here
> Everytime I read these posts on this site I am
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I concur. Top guys here
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> oscar Wrote:
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> > Everytime I read these posts on this site I am
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> oscar Wrote:
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> > Everytime I read these posts on this site I am
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Re: Re: VAAL SAND - Thursday 6th JUNE
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Well done Engles and Happy..
Please people,stop adding quotes to the boys work,it uses up to much space..
I'm sure Engles is a politician,he talks more than the mother-inlaw..
Seriously,good graft boys
Please people,stop adding quotes to the boys work,it uses up to much space..

I'm sure Engles is a politician,he talks more than the mother-inlaw..
Seriously,good graft boys
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Re: Re: VAAL SAND - Thursday 6th JUNE
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Me likes the striker double ew and i'm gonna take a chunk of TO REMEMBER in the 7th at 16/1 X(
Good luck to all with runners and clanners alike
btw... Thanks to THH and Englander for the detailed reviews, it's always much appreciated.
Good luck to all with runners and clanners alike
btw... Thanks to THH and Englander for the detailed reviews, it's always much appreciated.
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Re: Re: VAAL SAND - Thursday 6th JUNE
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Thx Englander & HHH,
Good writeup, really appreciated . and pretty much compares quite well with the 4 hours studying I have done. You guys doing it here IMO is the same as what a tipster would do for his members, every day... non stop... some days 2 meetings (8 hours)... without missing a day or taking a break... on weekdays AND on weekends (mostly the times where there are 2 meetings) ... and doing it for a measly R12,50 a meeting .... day in... day out 364 days a year... without resolve....non-stop
I guess that is what we are paying a tipster for... a service to allow us the comfort and piece of mind that someone else is putting in the hard graft... at a mere R12,50 a meeting ... it becomes a job... a shitty paid one for that matter ... and if we can get someone qualified to do it on a daily basis then the need for a tipster is gone which is great (tu) ... provided he is pretty good at it... because even the shittest tipster that does it day in day out for 364 days a year eventually gets better at it IMO...
... so we need someone qualified to do it daily or split it up per meeting ??
I will nominate myself for 1 day a week, since I am a WEE-PEE man I would propose the weekday Kenilworth one... any other takers??
PS: thanks to all the tipsters out there that is doing this job... I have done it for a few months and simply cannot see myself doing it to a few members at a shitty R12,50 a meeting so on TH's posts coming from another angle and not just someone getting tips for free on ABC thx to all those tipsters out there that is trying to provide this service to the general public whilts they are being slagged by the general public and crucified if they are not able to be correct with every BB,VB,EW or exotic they attempt to win for their members (tu)
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"Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim; accept no ones definition of your life; define yourself."- Harvey Fierstein
"When you give up your own truth to win at someone else’s game everyone loses." - Stephen C. Paul
Always put yourself in others' shoes. If you feel that it hurts you, it probably hurts the other person, too.
"Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain, and most fools do." - Benjamin Franklin
Good writeup, really appreciated . and pretty much compares quite well with the 4 hours studying I have done. You guys doing it here IMO is the same as what a tipster would do for his members, every day... non stop... some days 2 meetings (8 hours)... without missing a day or taking a break... on weekdays AND on weekends (mostly the times where there are 2 meetings) ... and doing it for a measly R12,50 a meeting .... day in... day out 364 days a year... without resolve....non-stop

I guess that is what we are paying a tipster for... a service to allow us the comfort and piece of mind that someone else is putting in the hard graft... at a mere R12,50 a meeting ... it becomes a job... a shitty paid one for that matter ... and if we can get someone qualified to do it on a daily basis then the need for a tipster is gone which is great (tu) ... provided he is pretty good at it... because even the shittest tipster that does it day in day out for 364 days a year eventually gets better at it IMO...
... so we need someone qualified to do it daily or split it up per meeting ??
I will nominate myself for 1 day a week, since I am a WEE-PEE man I would propose the weekday Kenilworth one... any other takers??
PS: thanks to all the tipsters out there that is doing this job... I have done it for a few months and simply cannot see myself doing it to a few members at a shitty R12,50 a meeting so on TH's posts coming from another angle and not just someone getting tips for free on ABC thx to all those tipsters out there that is trying to provide this service to the general public whilts they are being slagged by the general public and crucified if they are not able to be correct with every BB,VB,EW or exotic they attempt to win for their members (tu)
"Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are." - John Wooden
The world reflects what you need to see, not only what you want to see.
"The price of greatness is responsibility."- Sir Winston Churchill
Life isn’t about what happens to us. It’s about how we perceive what happens to us.
"Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim; accept no ones definition of your life; define yourself."- Harvey Fierstein
"When you give up your own truth to win at someone else’s game everyone loses." - Stephen C. Paul
Always put yourself in others' shoes. If you feel that it hurts you, it probably hurts the other person, too.
"Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain, and most fools do." - Benjamin Franklin
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Re: Re: VAAL SAND - Thursday 6th JUNE
12 years 1 week ago
@loopy i read the to and fro
On the other topic re tipsters. My view is simple, the payment to these are to save time on studying the cards in-depth as well as learning how to punt(like me). Any person who chooses to blindly play the "tips" good luck. I have been following this site for months before i decided to register and must say that most if not all do it for the love of the "sport" with the chance to make money.
I have registered with a tipster before and he made me a great deal of cash but also lost a bit. The new person (you) has opened my eyes to a whole new world of what punting ought to be.
So don't despair. Pls
On the other topic re tipsters. My view is simple, the payment to these are to save time on studying the cards in-depth as well as learning how to punt(like me). Any person who chooses to blindly play the "tips" good luck. I have been following this site for months before i decided to register and must say that most if not all do it for the love of the "sport" with the chance to make money.
I have registered with a tipster before and he made me a great deal of cash but also lost a bit. The new person (you) has opened my eyes to a whole new world of what punting ought to be.
So don't despair. Pls
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" A successful man is one who makes more money than he's wife can spend" - skint punter
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