Lafferty struck it big?

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> > A good example is Dunford who was very average
> > with Rivalland but won the July for Bass
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> Just for the record...Rivalland just won with a
> first timer.. 20/1 not shabby.... BUT I am not
> saying anything... is just coincidental.

Interesting point ..........how many of the top stables have 25/1 - 100/1 winners come up on them ?
Are they better at knowing and testing the ability of their runners.
Is it a case of knowing your stock and your business............GENERALLY the more professional stables run according to their expectation.................coincidence .......maybe when they do get a good horse they are better at measuring it?????

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> > > > Sometimes having the experience of the
> > > university
> > > > of life pays off! Just ask sir richard
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> > > And some people who dont have them uni papers
> -
> > > ask Bill Gates <
> > >
> > > Many college drop outs have become
> > > multi-million/billionaires...
> > >
> > > This comment of yours is injust...
> > >
> > > I ask a question...
> > >
> > > When Craig posts about his runners we are all
> > > totally grateful, now that he posts to defend
> a
> > > friend / colleague he gets attacked...
> > >
> > > Craig most probably knows more of the truth
> to
> > > this whole saga than you do - regarding the
> Laff
> > /
> > > Soma issue...
> > >
> > > Maybe there are those emails that someone
> else
> > > mentioned (did not read to the very end of
> this
> > > thread... going pear shaped very quickly)...
> > and
> > > he dropped hints and now he gets shot down...
> > > think those mails need to be aired, to defend
> > the
> > > trainers in this instance... anyway the truth
> > > always gets out... Maybe there is no
> additional
> > > info than what was given, in the end Craig
> > makes
> > > valid points, Laff had done all the hard work
> > with
> > > the horse and Soma just did the final
> > touches...
> > > they both have to be congratulated
> > >
> > > Personally I would have a horseman trainer
> and
> > > looking after my horse than an business / law
> > > degree character looking after my horse... I
> > would
> > > have a guy who has ridden horses / and looked
> > to
> > > horses since they were kids opposed to
> someone
> > > sitting with a piece of paper claiming to
> know
> > it
> > > all... sometimes the hands on experience
> > triumphs
> > > the piece of paper a character is holding...
> > >
> > > I only have a matric... so what am I not
> > smarter
> > > than some of you degree holding people??? you
> > may
> > > be a master in your profession, but lets take
> > it
> > > to a different playing field an I'm sure I
> > would
> > > have you guys stone cold... so... to bash a
> > > trainer not having a degree or something
> > similar
> > > IMVHO is hilarious
> > >
> > > And well done Mentor on the G1.
> >
> >
> > You confusing me, when I said university of life
> I
> > meant you dnt need a degree to be successful
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> My Bad - guess my matric does not count for much
> as I didn't bother to complete reading the
> sentence the Uni of Life...
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> In the end the horse won - and I'm sure Mentor,
> Laff and Soma are all happy with the result!!!

Fark all this horse racing , you should be sharpening yr hooks for the silver tide that is coming in a few months

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> Craig you believe 90 % is horse 10% trainer then
> my friend you got a lot to learn.
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> i am not going to mention names but do you think
> horses change stables improve because the 90 %
> story.
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> The other day some horse changed hands and went to
> a trainer named Little,was battling maiden with
> Maroun Bradley and won by 8 lengths so it was
> nothing to do with new trainer.

Mdk and hannon couldn't win with JJ yet Lucky conquered the

Mdk couldn't get royal harvest right but when it came back to james he won about 3 or 4 races

For all those that say its not about the horse go read Woodruffs interview in SP and he will tell you why his stable battled for a few years and why he is firing now

Hibbs go ask de kock then.
If he said that
In context maybe because topic was im only scared of David Payne and maybe Mr Drier.
When having a go.
Herman Brown senior was quality he had retired since.

but Hibbs you are also welcome to believe and anyone else is welcome to believe its the horse not trainer..


By the way not easy to improove on James Goodman.

Not much left in Lemon if it leaves his yard,

When it returns he manages to refuel it,

Hes one trainer not worth buying off.

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> > Craig you believe 90 % is horse 10% trainer
> then
> > my friend you got a lot to learn.
> >
> > i am not going to mention names but do you
> think
> > horses change stables improve because the 90 %
> > story.
> >
> >
> > The other day some horse changed hands and went
> to
> > a trainer named Little,was battling maiden with
> > Maroun Bradley and won by 8 lengths so it was
> > nothing to do with new trainer.
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> Mdk and hannon couldn't win with JJ yet Lucky
> conquered the
>
> Mdk couldn't get royal harvest right but when it
> came back to james he won about 3 or 4 races
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> For all those that say its not about the horse go
> read Woodruffs interview in SP and he will tell
> you why his stable battled for a few years and why
> he is firing now

How did you expect him to answer that question???? did you miss the answer which stated the most important "gadget" was the personnel.....................................and I am not sure firing is the right term ?.......will it be consistent? Lets wait and see...........Khan was the key to their success IMO.!!!!!

The success was all those fly nets installed at big money because vaal has bad flies.
Lucky had to kill the flies with chopsticks
woody had special flynets
150k cost i heard..


lol

its the horseeeeeeeeeeeeee the trainer useless

ask Pat Antelme he won july

Congrats to Mentor and connections.
Sorry that Anthony G relinquished his share in this horse.

Laff's absence in CT,as mentioned on TT, was due to him attending a family(daughter) issue in the UK.
After that race the stamina issue surfaced,hence his omission from the Derby.
The trek to GP is a success story.
Must be noted that LAFF has always attended the Dubai World Cup.
The name Phil Gorgia (travel expert) appeared on another topic.Laff trains for the owner.I'm sure the trainer got a freebie there.
Hence the trip was probably planned without the Classic1800 nomination.

Either way Love Struck has now earned himself a place in the VJuly.Lets see what Laff can do on his home turf.

nb.Laff/G Hawkins have always held this owner in high regards,and after reading the owners post,i'm sure all confusions are resolved.

zenyatta the trainer play the role dont you worry

you go have a look at trainer yard at vaal. some look like the squatter camp some look emmaculate. no surprise the squatter results not to good

NB Flash its the horse not the trainer,
90 % HORSE i think we should all become trainers 90 % horse 10% we can use some luck get De Kock feed and use Mcveigh the vet
and off to Dubai we go.
Maybe next year a few more SA trainers will go Dubai.

That vaal trainer did well in Dubai De kocks number 1 assistant was the vaal assistant but its not De Kock its the horse.

Its a lucky packet if you dont have nice packets you are in trouble.

Mike De Kock is just a lucky trainer.

He was in the right place right time
Poor Ricky died.
How lucky he was to get a phone call from Mrs O
How lucky he was to find Horse Chestnut.

No sorry not his selection was lucky it was sent to him.

In life we make our own luck
There is NOT 1 trainer in South Africa that is half as good as Sir Michael De Kock .
David Payne went to Aus ,he was maybe 2nd best.

Soon we will hear its 90 % horse and 10% jock.

I wonder out of 100 % how much trainer how much jockey how much horse.

Iwould like to thank Anton Marcus for saving my bets on horses that only he got home.

I am sure Mark Dixon said its the horse not Anton .lol

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> > > > > Sometimes having the experience of the
> > > > university
> > > > > of life pays off! Just ask sir richard
> > > branson
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> > > > And some people who dont have them uni
> papers
> > -
> > > > ask Bill Gates <
> > > >
> > > > Many college drop outs have become
> > > > multi-million/billionaires...
> > > >
> > > > This comment of yours is injust...
> > > >
> > > > I ask a question...
> > > >
> > > > When Craig posts about his runners we are
> all
> > > > totally grateful, now that he posts to
> defend
> > a
> > > > friend / colleague he gets attacked...
> > > >
> > > > Craig most probably knows more of the truth
> > to
> > > > this whole saga than you do - regarding the
> > Laff
> > > /
> > > > Soma issue...
> > > >
> > > > Maybe there are those emails that someone
> > else
> > > > mentioned (did not read to the very end of
> > this
> > > > thread... going pear shaped very
> quickly)...
> > > and
> > > > he dropped hints and now he gets shot
> down...
> > > > think those mails need to be aired, to
> defend
> > > the
> > > > trainers in this instance... anyway the
> truth
> > > > always gets out... Maybe there is no
> > additional
> > > > info than what was given, in the end Craig
> > > makes
> > > > valid points, Laff had done all the hard
> work
> > > with
> > > > the horse and Soma just did the final
> > > touches...
> > > > they both have to be congratulated
> > > >
> > > > Personally I would have a horseman trainer
> > and
> > > > looking after my horse than an business /
> law
> > > > degree character looking after my horse...
> I
> > > would
> > > > have a guy who has ridden horses / and
> looked
> > > to
> > > > horses since they were kids opposed to
> > someone
> > > > sitting with a piece of paper claiming to
> > know
> > > it
> > > > all... sometimes the hands on experience
> > > triumphs
> > > > the piece of paper a character is
> holding...
> > > >
> > > > I only have a matric... so what am I not
> > > smarter
> > > > than some of you degree holding people???
> you
> > > may
> > > > be a master in your profession, but lets
> take
> > > it
> > > > to a different playing field an I'm sure I
> > > would
> > > > have you guys stone cold... so... to bash a
> > > > trainer not having a degree or something
> > > similar
> > > > IMVHO is hilarious
> > > >
> > > > And well done Mentor on the G1.
> > >
> > >
> > > You confusing me, when I said university of
> life
> > I
> > > meant you dnt need a degree to be successful
> >
> >

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> > My Bad - guess my matric does not count for
> much
> > as I didn't bother to complete reading the
> > sentence the Uni of Life...
> >
> > In the end the horse won - and I'm sure Mentor,
> > Laff and Soma are all happy with the result!!!
>
> Fark all this horse racing , you should be
> sharpening yr hooks for the silver tide that is
> coming in a few months

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My fishing is just as good as my punting... hitting blobs < - I got a better chance of catching a cold in this weather

Zenyatta, what is your real name?

Now please, let"s call ducks, ducks and swans, swans> It is the horse that makes trainers and jockeys. Gondolier won the July fed on 11 percent pleasure meal. So, no more bashing of trainers please. Let it be now. Laff has trained good horses, so has Eudey. The horse is the one with ability, or no ability... an athlete. All sleep on this and hopefully, see sense. Good horses make for good trainers. Good horses make for good jockeys. Both, compliment the other.