ian jayes get kick out of vaal

Welcome to the forum Mr Jayes, "you will find us here, any time of year"

Welcome Ian, not surprised to hear about your "eviction". Truth is your either for the establishment or your out now showing in 8/9 of our racing regions, get used to its one of the many benefits of a monopoly and its only the start! Want some good advice for 2013 buy as many shares in PHM as you can find and get on the train.

@Ian Jayes:

'How anyone can think I can be getting a kick out of what is happening to me is beyond belief. How superficial and stupid can anyone be? '

I was just being somewhat sarcastic on the header, Ian; no personal offense! I worded it wrong!

-D

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Let the truth be known. Ian close the door concerning Phumelela and focus on the good stuff. May you have a great 2013.

Welcome Mr Jayes
Great to hear it from you(tu)
I admire your courage.

> It is truly amazing how "power" attracts
> hangers-on like filth attracts flies.
>
> I will continue to oppose injustice and
> dishonesty.

WELL SAID MR JAYES

What a load of spineless idiots..
Keep the small man down and they think its ok.
Isn't there a way of hurting them,ie in the pocket.

AND IF THEY CANT BEAT THEM THEY GIVE THEM CHAMPIONS TO TRAIN....... problem solved,no more noise maker

This is utterly shameful that people in power would stoop so low as to try and deprive a man of a living just because he stood up to question the status quo. There is no justice in local horse racing administration and operation ,and the lengths that they will go to, to ensure total control is sickening.

Then there are those that took the path of least resistance and were openly bribed to tow the line and now find themselves sitting very pretty. This is ever so typical of the spineless corrupt people that are attracted to easy money. If they were openly able to sell out so easy they are more inclined to cheat and have no compunction to operate dishonestly.

@j-pegged:


'If they were openly able to sell out so easy they are more inclined to cheat and have no compunction to operate dishonestly.'

(tu)

There was a Trainers' Association which is now defunct. There was just too much dissension in its ranks with certain trainers doing everything in their power to stymie the efforts of the rank and file on issues of importance like:

Having a census of our horse population so that proper programming can be done.

Having proper "divided" handicaps made up from a long handicap without benchmarks.

Not being consulted about field sizes and splitting the Vaal straight in half.

Not providing races over the intermediate distance of 1300 metres as we used to have at Gosforth Park and Newmarket.

And so forth.

What must be understood is that with the exception of a relative handful of trainers that train for the very big owners, the majority of trainers are vulnerable and are afraid to be seen taking an anti-establishment stand.

umlilo Wrote:

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> (tu)
>
> (tu)
>
> (tu)
>
>
> What many do not digest is that, within the next
> 5-10 years, there will be no small-medium owner,
> trainer (we have already seen how the handful of
> ultra-rich influential owners are sending their
> horses with various trainers country-wide;
> obviously to 'win' them over like what happened
> with Randjies) or breeder since a handful has set
> its sights on dominating & swallowing up the
> entire industry under the ptetext of it being a
> sport in one breath, then protecting the ailing
> industry from collapse, run it as a business, then
> promoting transformation, etc.
>
> The last bit is a hell of a con job which our
> idiotic Government is so blind to; where is even
> ONE BLACK AFRICAN TRAINER AFTER 18 YEARS OF THIS
> NEW DEMO-CRAZY?
>
> We have a super-enriched BEE as our potential
> Dep. President who could bid R19-million for a
> (black or white?) buffalo.
>
> Yet, when he was approached to sponsor the first
> post-1994 African racehorse trainer, Bhekinkosi
> Bulana, he never even bothered to respond! (At
> least my former comrade Tokyo Sexwale responded
> via Sello Rasethaba).
>
> What can one expect when former comrades are now
> committed capitalists, former socialists now
> stroppy socialites and former communists now
> sparkling, elitist black diamonds (except Ian
> Jayes! Lol! ())?
>
> Remember the quote 'I did not join the struggle to
> be poor!'?
>
> Poor me!
>
> Which struggle was I in?
>
>


Prost Hanif.... good and correct post... makes my blood boil the waste and the lining of the pockets at the expense of those purported to be freed. :X

I watched the GODFATHER sat evening...part 2 last night...:S

I worked hard with Ian Jayes on the trainers association and found him to be a thoroughly honorable man. He stood up for what he believed was right .In a democracy everyone is entitled to their say and he was one of the few who stood up and was counted. I am sad that his career has come to this but I more than most understand the subterfuge in this business