Fairview Polytrack

magiclips Wrote:

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> > > Sad but predictable that there is only 2
> > responses
> > > to this thread in as many hours...great news
> > for
> > > PE racing.....
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> > It is great news for PE but the best facilities
> in
> > the world will not get you punters
> Titch(neither
> > will added stakes) - You need marketing and
> > customer service- Did the team say anything
> about
> > a new commentator? I have a friend that has
> never
> > punted PE again after he lost a bert there when
> > the result was called incorrectly - It's like
> > buying a brand new car and letting a 90 year
> old
> > drive it for you - Let Dumpy tip horses with
> Gavin
> > and get a new Race caller - Your customers
> deserve
> > better (or do they?)
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> Blaming the commentator for a losing bet is a bit
> childish, I'd say. Whatever his faults may or may
> not be, he can't change the result!


It's the perception that this person creates - Do you think he is good for racing Magic?

Once the Polytrack is up and running then Arlington will close .

Dubai track is Tapeta not poly, different totally.

Too pasionate,gets lost in the moment(dumpy)

Well done to PE racing,is the sale of Arlington paying for it?

Having had a runner at the very first meeting held at the 'new' Fairview - back in the 70's - all I can say is "it's about time"!

Compared to the 'old' Fairview - now a distant memory under the foundations of Greenacres Shopping Centre - the 'new' Fairview was a depressing and badly designed entity built on quite the most unsuitable piece of land they could have found for a racecourse.

Alistair_Brown Wrote:

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> Having had a runner at the very first meeting held
> at the 'new' Fairview - back in the 70's - all I
> can say is "it's about time"!
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> Compared to the 'old' Fairview - now a distant
> memory under the foundations of Greenacres
> Shopping Centre - the 'new' Fairview was a
> depressing and badly designed entity built on
> quite the most unsuitable piece of land they could
> have found for a racecourse.


It's improved in leaps and bounds since then.(tu) In fact, I'd say it damned close to beng the best racing surface in the country.

Flash Harry Wrote:

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> this is fantastic news and tich some people go get
> pissed on fridays so sorry for late comment. what
> i will say is i hope the p team does the homework.
> if i here right big problem in dubai with track
> and i hope some one does not get rich like happen
> at vaal and every one else suffer

42 horses broke down during the dubai carnival 2012,3 horses died in the gold cup on wc night

I wish you okes would stop Dumpy bashing !! The size fields he has to commentate race after race is very difficult race calling and at least you hear what is going on behind the front horse.... not the front horses name called for the last 400m's in different accentuations !!

Sham Racing Wrote:

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> Once the Polytrack is up and running then
> Arlington will close .
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> Dubai track is Tapeta not poly, different totally.

the only major difference between the two systems is the base or bed....the surface substrates are more or less the same....the problem in dubai was not with the system but with the system not matching the conditions.....I would venture a guess and say that too much scrap"rubber" was blended into the surface substrate in Dubai which under the conditions deteriorated faster and started breaking down and then absorbed or scavenged the wax and water and the surface lost the compession required to absorb the surface traffic.....let me tell you I cannot get exicited about a Poly track in PE as it is likely to suffer a similar fate as your climate is far to dry and windy for any substate system to work effectively.....the base will be required to be sealed so it can trap water in the bed so that the surface can remain moisturised.....a porous bitumin base is being proposed for PE and will fail.....:S

Phumelela did consider installing a turf track on the inside of the existing circuit, which would have cost significantly less, but has opted for Polytrack for various reasons. The most important is that a synthetic track does not require water, which is critical in light of the history of drought conditions and water restrictions in the province. Other reasons include:
* Annual maintenance will be some R1.5 million less than turf
* Polytrack is an all-weather surface that will virtually eliminate the abandonment of races and enable more race meetings to be added to the fixture list in the region if desired
* Horses can be trained on the Polytrack, thus eliminating training schedules being interrupted by rain
Polytrack comprises a synthetic surface mixture laid on a vertical drainage system. The actual track or surface mixture is composed of recycled polypropylene fibres, recycled rubber and silica sand. All components are weighed, mixed and thoroughly coated with wax.
The wax coating prevents moisture absorption, allowing water to flow quickly into the vertical drainage system below, which comprises a layer of porous tarmac, drainage stone and a system of drainage pipes that carry water away from underneath the track.
The outcome is a kinder and more consistent surface than a conventional dirt or sand track because Polytrack’s unique cushioning effect reduces injuries to the back and legs.
Polytrack is proven to be more horse friendly than other racing surfaces based on a study completed in the USA relating to catastrophic breakdowns in races. There does however appear to be a higher incidence of soft tissue injuries, which result from a horse’s hooves not sliding forward on impact in the same way as on sand.
These injuries can be minimised by trainers adapting training methods, particularly in terms of giving horses time to become accustomed to the surface.

Porous Tarmac or bitumin for drainage etc. for a place that has historically very low rainfall....not making much sense why a system designed to deal with weather and rainfall is being proposed......:S

How much water does the pollytrack need to stop it melting/burning?

Muhtiman Wrote:

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> Phumelela did consider installing a turf track on
> the inside of the existing circuit, which would
> have cost significantly less, but has opted for
> Polytrack for various reasons. The most important
> is that a synthetic track does not require water,
> which is critical in light of the history of
> drought conditions and water restrictions in the
> province. Other reasons include:
> * Annual maintenance will be some R1.5 million
> less than turf
> * Polytrack is an all-weather surface that will
> virtually eliminate the abandonment of races and
> enable more race meetings to be added to the
> fixture list in the region if desired
> * Horses can be trained on the Polytrack, thus
> eliminating training schedules being interrupted
> by rain
> Polytrack comprises a synthetic surface mixture
> laid on a vertical drainage system. The actual
> track or surface mixture is composed of recycled
> polypropylene fibres, recycled rubber and silica
> sand. All components are weighed, mixed and
> thoroughly coated with wax.
> The wax coating prevents moisture absorption,
> allowing water to flow quickly into the vertical
> drainage system below, which comprises a layer of
> porous tarmac, drainage stone and a system of
> drainage pipes that carry water away from
> underneath the track.
> The outcome is a kinder and more consistent
> surface than a conventional dirt or sand track
> because Polytrack’s unique cushioning effect
> reduces injuries to the back and legs.
> Polytrack is proven to be more horse friendly
> than other racing surfaces based on a study
> completed in the USA relating to catastrophic
> breakdowns in races. There does however appear to
> be a higher incidence of soft tissue injuries,
> which result from a horse’s hooves not sliding
> forward on impact in the same way as on sand.
> These injuries can be minimised by trainers
> adapting training methods, particularly in terms
> of giving horses time to become accustomed to the
> surface.
>
> Porous Tarmac or bitumin for drainage etc. for a
> place that has historically very low
> rainfall....not making much sense why a system
> designed to deal with weather and rainfall is
> being proposed......:S


A lot of times, meetings here had to be abandoned because of the rain(especially at Fairview). So I'm glad they doing something about it.

It depends on the melt index of the wax, as different wax fractions have different melting points and this is the trick to balance the wax with the climatic conditions. A certain amount of moisture(water) is also required as a buffer to stop the wax from binding and forming clumps with the silca. These systems are not completely maintainance free and require constant maintainance and motitoring to ensure that the surface substate remains balaced with the correct ratio of moisture,wax, silica and scrap plastic and not too much rubber...