2011 Champion Jock for the losing odds-ons horses.....goes to DELPECH

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2011 Champion Jock for the losing odds-ons horses.....goes to DELPECH

13 years 10 months ago
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Extract from www.formgrids.com

NEW RECORD
Jockey Delpech bagged another record at Scotsville yesterday.
Delpech managed to lose on 4 odds-ons shots in 1 day.
RED REVENGE = Delpech=7/10=2nd
BESMA = Delpech = 8/10=5th
ALWAYS AL = Delpech =7/20=3rd
GIBSON GIRL = Delpech = 9/10=3rd

Delpech also holds the record of being beaten on the shortest priced odds-on this season, when he was beaten on Royal Ridge.
According to the www.formgrids.com odds-ons logs, Delpech is well clear of his fellow jockeys on the losing odds-ons log.
Delpech is now becoming the bookmakers best friend
and the punters worst enemy.
Be careful
when backing Delpech on odds-ons shots according to the log

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Re: Re: 2011 Champion Jock for the losing odds-ons horses.....goes to DELPECH

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Gibson Girl should never have been odds on for Starters...

You are also got to remember that Delpech is always going to lose on more odds on chances than any other Jock in SA because he rides for a stable that the bookies always under price the runners..

I can Guarantee you that Ryan Moore in the UK rides more odds on losers than any other jockey,just because he rides many more odds on horses..

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Re: Re: 2011 Champion Jock for the losing odds-ons horses.....goes to DELPECH

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IMO BESMA was priced up correctly as favourite.

The Stipendiary Stewards Reported (DA):
In view of the performance of BESMA (A Delpech) (8,30 lengths) the Veterinary Surgeon was requested to examine this filly.

The Veterinary Surgeon Reported:

BESMA : Nothing obvious detected.


Delpech had nothing to report to the stipes, I would assume that this horse was fit and healthy.
However Delpech riding of BESMA is questionable.

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Re: Re: 2011 Champion Jock for the losing odds-ons horses.....goes to DELPECH

13 years 10 months ago
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Tero Wrote:
> Extract from www.formgrids.com
>
> NEW RECORD
> Jockey Delpech bagged another record at Scotsville
> yesterday.
> Delpech managed to lose on 4 odds-ons shots in 1
> day.
> RED REVENGE = Delpech=7/10=2nd
> BESMA = Delpech = 8/10=5th
> ALWAYS AL = Delpech =7/20=3rd
> GIBSON GIRL = Delpech = 9/10=3rd
>
> Delpech also holds the record of being beaten on

and the fan club who are normally spot on about his rides were very strong on the double RR and GG...

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Re: Re: 2011 Champion Jock for the losing odds-ons horses.....goes to DELPECH

13 years 10 months ago
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back delpech on anything but odds ons

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Re: Re: 2011 Champion Jock for the losing odds-ons horses.....goes to DELPECH

13 years 10 months ago
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I would agree with the explanation from Hibs, its logical that top jocks get beat on more favs than others and the prices are always a few points below when Delpech, Marcus etc have the mounts
Stats can be useful but can also be manipulated, imo both Marcus and Delpech are treating this like a WAR and good for the sport.

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Re: Re: 2011 Champion Jock for the losing odds-ons horses.....goes to DELPECH

13 years 10 months ago
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morning..quite an interesting statistic Tero...but like Hibs pointed out...he rides more odds ons...and lots of false favourites ....its the bookies that must take some of the flack for pricing Delpech's horses odds on.....in any other stable....Royal ridge was at least a 5/10 shot...not a 1/5 favourite....so that should be blamed on the bookies.....and coming back to sundays favourites...would u really think that delpech is brassing these winners...when its obvious he wants winners and breaking his back to travel to ride winners.I would have agreed with u or thought it was odd at the beginning of the season ...but right now..i can tell u(i know delpech personally)...and he gets very dissapointed witha day like sunday....because he is trying

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Re: Re: 2011 Champion Jock for the losing odds-ons horses.....goes to DELPECH

13 years 10 months ago
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for me that is useless statistics; Delpech currently holds a strike rate of 30%, only the very best of jocks achieve such a strike rate....

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Stats are weasels, they can turn right around and bite you when you think you've got them under control.

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Re: Re: 2011 Champion Jock for the losing odds-ons horses.....goes to DELPECH

13 years 10 months ago
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keniza999 Wrote:
> for me that is useless statistics; Delpech
> currently holds a strike rate of 30%, only the
> very best of jocks achieve such a strike rate....


Keniza Anthony's strike rate is nowhere near 30% in fact I believe it is just over 20% Anton is just below 30%
Give everything but up!

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Re: Re: 2011 Champion Jock for the losing odds-ons horses.....goes to DELPECH

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Titch Wrote:
> keniza999 Wrote:
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> > for me that is useless statistics; Delpech
> > currently holds a strike rate of 30%, only the
> > very best of jocks achieve such a strike
> rate....
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> Keniza Anthony's strike rate is nowhere near 30%
> in fact I believe it is just over 20% Anton is
> just below 30%


not sure how you come to yours but AD rode 9 winners in the last 30 rides and 18 winners in the last 60 rides, that adds up to 30%....

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Re: Re: 2011 Champion Jock for the losing odds-ons horses.....goes to DELPECH

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Extract from www.formgrids.com

WINNING JOCKEY ODDS -ON LOGS
25-05-2010 TO 13-07-11


Jockey Winners Mounts %
Marcus 53 77 69 (tu)
Delpech 33 73 45
F.Coetzee 18 36 50
Fortune 14 33 42
Fayd’Herbe 13 21 62(tu)
K.Neisius 11 23 48
Hatt 10 12 83(tu)(tu)(tu)
Shea 10 18 56
Brown 9 14 64(tu)
G.Lerena 8 13 62(tu)
Domeyer 5 6 83(tu)(tu)(tu)
Mienie 5 13 38
J.P. 4 9 44
M.Byleveld 4 8 50
Kennedy 4 8 50
Fourie 4 6 67(tu)
Randolph 4 5 80(tu)(tu)(tu)
Chambers 3 4 75(tu)(tu)(tu)
David 3 6 50
Strydom 3 10 30
Herholdt 2 6 33
Teetan 2 6 33
B.Lerena 1 4 25
Agrella 0 3 0

Interesting stats

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