The impact of EE act on tote turnover - 1 March 2010
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15 years 9 months ago
Andrewest
The only reason why the ruling gov dont go and get those assholes is because deals were made.
You let us get our stuff out of SA to Paraguay and Urugauy and we hand over the country to you.
The only reason why the ruling gov dont go and get those assholes is because deals were made.
You let us get our stuff out of SA to Paraguay and Urugauy and we hand over the country to you.
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Re: Re: The impact of EE act on tote turnover - 1 March 2010
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there you go Andrewest, you have had 7 cases therefore you qualify for an asylum in Canada. Ps, they have coffee shops with outside tables, where you can leave your blackberry and rolex and no-one will even look at it...no need for an axe.
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Re: Re: The impact of EE act on tote turnover - 1 March 2010
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On Thursday the 3rd i spent the whole day in JHB court NR. 12.
I'm the accused.
One of my ex employee's who tried to join the Union and was dismissed for it laid a charge of assault against me.
Of course i didn't touch him at all, just used the system to my advantage.
You see if you dismiss a person for joining a Union he can't take you to the CCMA.
He have to take you to labour court at a cost of between R15 and R20k per case.
The Union wont borrow him the money or even help him further.
They usually tell him to open a assault case against me.
The assault apparently took place on the 8Th of March and the complainant opened the case on the 17 of April 2009.
This was just one day after he lost the CCMA case who found that the CCMA have no jurisdiction over a Union matter.
This is case NR. 5 this year for me and i don't even take a Lawyer with me anymore as i am quite sharp with this procedures already.
With this cases that the Union force the ex employee to open against me they are trying to make sure that i distance myself from the workers so they can find a gap between us.
You must remember that every case open against me i get Arrested and brought in front of a court to get bail.
They usually arrest you on a Thursday and you go to court on a Monday.
Every case that i have won so far i open a case of Putting a false statement against the complainant. Nothing ever happens with that cases.
On request from me to the inspector what's happening with the case he always have the same to say. We can't find the accused.
Another worker went to the CCMA who signed a full and final settlement when he left. He lost his case at the CCMA. He opened a fraud case against me saying i fraudulently signed the papers on his behalf. Another case another couple of days in jail will come up soon for me.
The white youngster who appeared before me wasn't that lucky on the 3rd.
He got sentence three years because the sun influenced his view infront of the Glen shopping centre on the highway.
He drove into a pile up and injured a motoris.
The judge first time ever i see it was Prosecutor and judge.
The prosecutor asked four questions.
The judge (Black) fourty question to the youngster.
He asked the kid what would he do if a taxi try and drive or push infront of him on the Highway.
The unexperienced kid said drive faster not to allow him infront.
I'll tell you this much Andrewest know what he is talking about.
Throw the dice and the Black judge likes my ex employee with the ZCC badge on then i'm fucked for six years.
I'm the accused.
One of my ex employee's who tried to join the Union and was dismissed for it laid a charge of assault against me.
Of course i didn't touch him at all, just used the system to my advantage.
You see if you dismiss a person for joining a Union he can't take you to the CCMA.
He have to take you to labour court at a cost of between R15 and R20k per case.
The Union wont borrow him the money or even help him further.
They usually tell him to open a assault case against me.
The assault apparently took place on the 8Th of March and the complainant opened the case on the 17 of April 2009.
This was just one day after he lost the CCMA case who found that the CCMA have no jurisdiction over a Union matter.
This is case NR. 5 this year for me and i don't even take a Lawyer with me anymore as i am quite sharp with this procedures already.
With this cases that the Union force the ex employee to open against me they are trying to make sure that i distance myself from the workers so they can find a gap between us.
You must remember that every case open against me i get Arrested and brought in front of a court to get bail.
They usually arrest you on a Thursday and you go to court on a Monday.
Every case that i have won so far i open a case of Putting a false statement against the complainant. Nothing ever happens with that cases.
On request from me to the inspector what's happening with the case he always have the same to say. We can't find the accused.
Another worker went to the CCMA who signed a full and final settlement when he left. He lost his case at the CCMA. He opened a fraud case against me saying i fraudulently signed the papers on his behalf. Another case another couple of days in jail will come up soon for me.
The white youngster who appeared before me wasn't that lucky on the 3rd.
He got sentence three years because the sun influenced his view infront of the Glen shopping centre on the highway.
He drove into a pile up and injured a motoris.
The judge first time ever i see it was Prosecutor and judge.
The prosecutor asked four questions.
The judge (Black) fourty question to the youngster.
He asked the kid what would he do if a taxi try and drive or push infront of him on the Highway.
The unexperienced kid said drive faster not to allow him infront.
I'll tell you this much Andrewest know what he is talking about.
Throw the dice and the Black judge likes my ex employee with the ZCC badge on then i'm fucked for six years.
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Re: Re: The impact of EE act on tote turnover - 1 March 2010
15 years 9 months ago
Everything painted so rosy when it's far from it. Political correctness now rules the day.
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Re: Re: The impact of EE act on tote turnover - 1 March 2010
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Chainsaw whats amazing is that i have already lost 25 days this year being in jail.
I lost another 15 days for cases being postponed.
40 Days in 2009 gone because of workers and the Union.
I wont even call it political correctness but straight racism.
The black police man can let me out with station bail without being arrested.
They won't i'm white.
You want to hear the funniest part.
Every time i've been arrested i had and took my Glock 40 with me inside.
At least in jail i was in charge everytime so far.
I lost another 15 days for cases being postponed.
40 Days in 2009 gone because of workers and the Union.
I wont even call it political correctness but straight racism.
The black police man can let me out with station bail without being arrested.
They won't i'm white.
You want to hear the funniest part.
Every time i've been arrested i had and took my Glock 40 with me inside.
At least in jail i was in charge everytime so far.
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Re: Re: The impact of EE act on tote turnover - 1 March 2010
15 years 9 months ago
I won't comment any further because the retort is always the same, despotic and riddled with arrogance.....'' If you don't like it then leave ! ''.
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Re: Re: The impact of EE act on tote turnover - 1 March 2010
15 years 9 months ago
Chainsaw:
With respect, you are wrong!
What is coming out here is what most blacks are not aware of. Similarly, what some of them have to tell you, most whites are not aware of.
We need this interaction to filter downwards- where is the leader (black or white) who will take up the cudgels and promote respect & understanding.
Dogmaticism lends to arrogance & insolence.
With respect, you are wrong!
What is coming out here is what most blacks are not aware of. Similarly, what some of them have to tell you, most whites are not aware of.
We need this interaction to filter downwards- where is the leader (black or white) who will take up the cudgels and promote respect & understanding.
Dogmaticism lends to arrogance & insolence.
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Re: Re: The impact of EE act on tote turnover - 1 March 2010
15 years 9 months ago
There is no crime when..
FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE TILL 2004..never robbed..or hijacked...or anything...
you get up at 5am..
on the road at 6am..
enroute with the 7 million work force to work..
the worst you might experience...taxi road rage..or idiots travelling at 40km..
at work you are in a safe environment..security at the entrance..card system
your car is safe..parked in the basement...
going out at lunch..quick out to the corner shop and back..
or with your car going somewhere...
worst you will get...metro cop trying to get his R100 off you..
at night...back in stream with the other motorist...
worst you will get...if you are late..smash and grab at the traffic light..
WHILE YOU WE WERE WORKING
FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE FROM 2004....7 cases...
the 10 million thugs, thieves and robbers are also enroute to town..suburbs etc
most dressed as if they are going to work..or looking for work..
suddenly I am not in a safe environment (office with security at the entrance, card system)...and my car is parked in the parking lot...not in the office block basement...
Now I have become the hunted..
60m in RSA..
20m in school..younger than 18
20m old age....older than > 50
8m work force..at work in safe office environment..
10m thugs roaming the streets..
2m unemployed or housewifes...
Who are the 2m experiencing the crime...
mostly white woman...
white men..huntley generation..
Why...
they are easy targets..
it's no different in MAURITIUS..
I stayed 3 months in Berebye....
Broke in while I was asleep...
woke up when the guy was in the room..
!@#$%^&*()_+| seven kins of shit out of him...
wanted to deport me...I was wrong...had to lay a charge...
most of the South African Jockeys have been robbed in maurtius too..
its part of life...
The locals believe...GOD sends the white man to them...to be ROBBED....
It's not a crime to steal...it's a crime to be CAUGHT..
8m
..the guys sitting in government offices..
..the guys sitting in corporate offices.
..you are right.
..I was right too (before 2004).
..there is no crime...
20m
..the guys at school
.. there is no crime..
20m
..>50 years..staying at home
..there is no crime
10m
..thugs..thieves..robbers..
..there is no crime
2m
..unemployed..EE..AA..BEE
..retrenched..EE..AA..BEE
..lazy..thats me..
..selfemployed..
..shop owners..
..waiters..
..parking lot guards...
dont ask these 2m...you might get the truth...
FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE TILL 2004..never robbed..or hijacked...or anything...
you get up at 5am..
on the road at 6am..
enroute with the 7 million work force to work..
the worst you might experience...taxi road rage..or idiots travelling at 40km..
at work you are in a safe environment..security at the entrance..card system
your car is safe..parked in the basement...
going out at lunch..quick out to the corner shop and back..
or with your car going somewhere...
worst you will get...metro cop trying to get his R100 off you..
at night...back in stream with the other motorist...
worst you will get...if you are late..smash and grab at the traffic light..
WHILE YOU WE WERE WORKING
FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE FROM 2004....7 cases...
the 10 million thugs, thieves and robbers are also enroute to town..suburbs etc
most dressed as if they are going to work..or looking for work..
suddenly I am not in a safe environment (office with security at the entrance, card system)...and my car is parked in the parking lot...not in the office block basement...
Now I have become the hunted..
60m in RSA..
20m in school..younger than 18
20m old age....older than > 50
8m work force..at work in safe office environment..
10m thugs roaming the streets..
2m unemployed or housewifes...
Who are the 2m experiencing the crime...
mostly white woman...
white men..huntley generation..
Why...
they are easy targets..
it's no different in MAURITIUS..
I stayed 3 months in Berebye....
Broke in while I was asleep...
woke up when the guy was in the room..
!@#$%^&*()_+| seven kins of shit out of him...
wanted to deport me...I was wrong...had to lay a charge...
most of the South African Jockeys have been robbed in maurtius too..
its part of life...
The locals believe...GOD sends the white man to them...to be ROBBED....
It's not a crime to steal...it's a crime to be CAUGHT..
8m
..the guys sitting in government offices..
..the guys sitting in corporate offices.
..you are right.
..I was right too (before 2004).
..there is no crime...
20m
..the guys at school
.. there is no crime..
20m
..>50 years..staying at home
..there is no crime
10m
..thugs..thieves..robbers..
..there is no crime
2m
..unemployed..EE..AA..BEE
..retrenched..EE..AA..BEE
..lazy..thats me..
..selfemployed..
..shop owners..
..waiters..
..parking lot guards...
dont ask these 2m...you might get the truth...
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Re: Re: The impact of EE act on tote turnover - 1 March 2010
15 years 9 months ago
Umlilo and Andrewest how do we sort out this problem........?
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Re: Re: The impact of EE act on tote turnover - 1 March 2010
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I dont have a problem ...yet..
in the next few years as I get older..the problem will start..
I will loose the fight...too slow...to weak..
The current white MALE generation have a problem...
a problem they want to label a CHALLENGE......
a CHALLENGE they cannot win....
a CHALLENGE which they dont understand........
a CHALLENGE which they refuse to understand...
Why..
because of their up bringing.....
because of HOPE, FAITH and LOVE..
They HOPE the problem/CHALLENGE will go away...
They HOPE that they will be one of the 416 whites (MALES + FEMALES) per town that will get employment due to EE act.........
They HOPE that they will be one of the two SPOORNET employees per town..
They HOPE that they will not be retrenched during the 20 years...
They HOPE that they will be able to repay the bond over the next 20 years..
They HOPE that they will be able to repay the car over the next 5 years..
They HOPE that their children will get into UNIVERSITY in 10 years.......
They HOPE that the degrees will be recognised in 10 years by international..
They HOPE that....
People that HOPE..cannot face the zero/reality line..they get panic attacks.
People that HOPE..cannot face the zero/reality line..they get depressed.....
People that HOPE..do not win at HORSE RACING...
People that HOPE..go not win a cards...........
FACE THE FACTS...UNDERSTAND the REALITY..DECIDE WHICH METHOD will yield an answer..GET GOING..Do IT....then HOPE....
FAITH..will not let the THUGS, THIEVES, ROBBERS pass you by...
FAITH..will perhaps let you find another country..............
LOVE...
LOVE YOURSELF FIRST.......
If you are a WHITE male with a family..
49..retrenched now..
once your pension is paid out...if any left..these einsteins losts it in the USA
the house is paid off..
the car is paid off....
some gave the dominee 10%
the O/D is 0...the bank will do that within 2 months..if no salary deposit..
the 2 kids are still at school..
the 1 std 7..the other in std 8...
the wife is unemployed...
nett cash left < R200k..
this is typical of most white males retrenched from the government staff....
no EU passport like me and you....
over 45...Australia & others dont want him and his family...
USA...no green card...
dominee...brother we will pray for you....
monthly expenses on medical aid, rates and taxes, insurance, telephone, food min R10K..
so, the guys has got max 20 months to go..
no hope of his KIDS to finish school.....
no hope of his KIDS to get to Varsity....
no Hope of his KIDS to get a job.........
no hope of his KIDS getting married......
no hope of his KIDS having children......
no hope of his KIDS and GRANDKIDS spending time..
SO..NOW THIS GUYS FACES REALITY..................
and this is what will be for 72% of the white males that run the companies that fall under the EE ACT....
before 1 march 2010.....
about...300,000 white males???
you want him to shout...
VIVA SOUTH AFRICA.......
VIVA 2010 soccer........
VIVA the Springboks.....
There are no WHITE NATION LEFT....
Huntley is wise....he can read the signs..he understand the signs..he acted early.....he's got a chance...
As for me...I am in the last 20 years of my life..
will find a island...
will retire..........
my son...will move to ITALY..
he will have his own problems..
in the next few years as I get older..the problem will start..
I will loose the fight...too slow...to weak..
The current white MALE generation have a problem...
a problem they want to label a CHALLENGE......
a CHALLENGE they cannot win....
a CHALLENGE which they dont understand........
a CHALLENGE which they refuse to understand...
Why..
because of their up bringing.....
because of HOPE, FAITH and LOVE..
They HOPE the problem/CHALLENGE will go away...
They HOPE that they will be one of the 416 whites (MALES + FEMALES) per town that will get employment due to EE act.........
They HOPE that they will be one of the two SPOORNET employees per town..
They HOPE that they will not be retrenched during the 20 years...
They HOPE that they will be able to repay the bond over the next 20 years..
They HOPE that they will be able to repay the car over the next 5 years..
They HOPE that their children will get into UNIVERSITY in 10 years.......
They HOPE that the degrees will be recognised in 10 years by international..
They HOPE that....
People that HOPE..cannot face the zero/reality line..they get panic attacks.
People that HOPE..cannot face the zero/reality line..they get depressed.....
People that HOPE..do not win at HORSE RACING...
People that HOPE..go not win a cards...........
FACE THE FACTS...UNDERSTAND the REALITY..DECIDE WHICH METHOD will yield an answer..GET GOING..Do IT....then HOPE....
FAITH..will not let the THUGS, THIEVES, ROBBERS pass you by...
FAITH..will perhaps let you find another country..............
LOVE...
LOVE YOURSELF FIRST.......
If you are a WHITE male with a family..
49..retrenched now..
once your pension is paid out...if any left..these einsteins losts it in the USA
the house is paid off..
the car is paid off....
some gave the dominee 10%
the O/D is 0...the bank will do that within 2 months..if no salary deposit..
the 2 kids are still at school..
the 1 std 7..the other in std 8...
the wife is unemployed...
nett cash left < R200k..
this is typical of most white males retrenched from the government staff....
no EU passport like me and you....
over 45...Australia & others dont want him and his family...
USA...no green card...
dominee...brother we will pray for you....
monthly expenses on medical aid, rates and taxes, insurance, telephone, food min R10K..
so, the guys has got max 20 months to go..
no hope of his KIDS to finish school.....
no hope of his KIDS to get to Varsity....
no Hope of his KIDS to get a job.........
no hope of his KIDS getting married......
no hope of his KIDS having children......
no hope of his KIDS and GRANDKIDS spending time..
SO..NOW THIS GUYS FACES REALITY..................
and this is what will be for 72% of the white males that run the companies that fall under the EE ACT....
before 1 march 2010.....
about...300,000 white males???
you want him to shout...
VIVA SOUTH AFRICA.......
VIVA 2010 soccer........
VIVA the Springboks.....
There are no WHITE NATION LEFT....
Huntley is wise....he can read the signs..he understand the signs..he acted early.....he's got a chance...
As for me...I am in the last 20 years of my life..
will find a island...
will retire..........
my son...will move to ITALY..
he will have his own problems..
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Re: Re: The impact of EE act on tote turnover - 1 March 2010
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kobus:
we need leadership to address the issues and bridge our people into national unity.
Sorry to say, but even Madiba (for all his magic) did not address this issue jointly with De Klerk; we heard of fears, assurances, 'sunset clause', etc but no tangible vehicle to resolve and unite.
The end result with sit with: a repetition of the NP circus wherein a handful of Afrikaners became super rich (Afrikaner enrichment) whilst the rest languish.
The pattern is the same; the middle class (black & white) are used against the mass by being given crumbs (good job, perks, car allowance, cellphones...) whilst the enriched get the cheese and the wealthy maintain their status. We are the suckers.
Classic example is the corporatisation of the horseracing industry in Gauteng. First, they played up to the whites (who were members of the then Racxing Clubs):
1. We are under threat;
2. Horseracing will die;
3. So will your privileges...blah, blah!!!!!
Then they threatened Govt-
1. if you dmeand transformation (25% black), the industry will die with thousands of blacks losing their jobs! (Over 3 000 did lose jobs, starting from the tracks to Telebet operators when they unilaterally changed their terms and conditions of employment, went on strike and were dismissed in one shot!) Today, they claim to be doing a lot for blacks with a few faces here and there.
Similarly, many whites lost their positions, were downgraded, or just left out of sheer frustration; except for the blue-eyed ones!
2. By hijacking negotiations, they kept the majority (unconneceted) white punters out of the arena until they got full control of the industry! We will find a strategic partner; that ended up being themselves and having majority shares in the entity!
They exploited white fears with emotive language; 'blacks will eat the bloody horses up! what do they know about horseracing? these idiots will mess up the industry!, etc... remember?
Today, to join the RA, you need to cough up almost a grand- yet, this is supposed to be a Section 21 Company, having received the assets of the industry virtually gratis, plus the kitty in the Horseracing Development Fun!
You want to be someone; brag to Government that you did this for soccer, or, attended a trade union rally, or, were there for the protests- then, you are a white hero, deserving of accommodation above even blacks who sacrificed their all during the struggle!
3. Today, punters and small owners, breeders, etc are crying. Do they realise that they have been used just as much as black voters are?
Ironically, white man (with maningi dollars!) is still the 'baas'!
All this boils down to: CLASS DISTINctions IN A CONTROLLED CAPITALIST ECONOMY (IF NOT MONOPOLY)!
We are used against one another (like condoms) until the next hurdle or proposal.
EE does not affect the elitists; let's get that right from the outset!
So, what is the solution?
Join the mass in their demands on Government; think in terms of their mindsets- socialism, nationalisation, National Health, etc....become a COMRADE!
BUT THIS TIME, for all, black, white or brown!
Not only there might be practical sanity in it, but also security!
We are all looking for solutions- together we can!
we need leadership to address the issues and bridge our people into national unity.
Sorry to say, but even Madiba (for all his magic) did not address this issue jointly with De Klerk; we heard of fears, assurances, 'sunset clause', etc but no tangible vehicle to resolve and unite.
The end result with sit with: a repetition of the NP circus wherein a handful of Afrikaners became super rich (Afrikaner enrichment) whilst the rest languish.
The pattern is the same; the middle class (black & white) are used against the mass by being given crumbs (good job, perks, car allowance, cellphones...) whilst the enriched get the cheese and the wealthy maintain their status. We are the suckers.
Classic example is the corporatisation of the horseracing industry in Gauteng. First, they played up to the whites (who were members of the then Racxing Clubs):
1. We are under threat;
2. Horseracing will die;
3. So will your privileges...blah, blah!!!!!
Then they threatened Govt-
1. if you dmeand transformation (25% black), the industry will die with thousands of blacks losing their jobs! (Over 3 000 did lose jobs, starting from the tracks to Telebet operators when they unilaterally changed their terms and conditions of employment, went on strike and were dismissed in one shot!) Today, they claim to be doing a lot for blacks with a few faces here and there.
Similarly, many whites lost their positions, were downgraded, or just left out of sheer frustration; except for the blue-eyed ones!
2. By hijacking negotiations, they kept the majority (unconneceted) white punters out of the arena until they got full control of the industry! We will find a strategic partner; that ended up being themselves and having majority shares in the entity!
They exploited white fears with emotive language; 'blacks will eat the bloody horses up! what do they know about horseracing? these idiots will mess up the industry!, etc... remember?
Today, to join the RA, you need to cough up almost a grand- yet, this is supposed to be a Section 21 Company, having received the assets of the industry virtually gratis, plus the kitty in the Horseracing Development Fun!
You want to be someone; brag to Government that you did this for soccer, or, attended a trade union rally, or, were there for the protests- then, you are a white hero, deserving of accommodation above even blacks who sacrificed their all during the struggle!
3. Today, punters and small owners, breeders, etc are crying. Do they realise that they have been used just as much as black voters are?
Ironically, white man (with maningi dollars!) is still the 'baas'!
All this boils down to: CLASS DISTINctions IN A CONTROLLED CAPITALIST ECONOMY (IF NOT MONOPOLY)!
We are used against one another (like condoms) until the next hurdle or proposal.
EE does not affect the elitists; let's get that right from the outset!
So, what is the solution?
Join the mass in their demands on Government; think in terms of their mindsets- socialism, nationalisation, National Health, etc....become a COMRADE!
BUT THIS TIME, for all, black, white or brown!
Not only there might be practical sanity in it, but also security!
We are all looking for solutions- together we can!
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Re: Re: The impact of EE act on tote turnover - 1 March 2010
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