New Petergate saga
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New Petergate saga
1 year 3 months ago
WHO WOULD WANT TO BE A MEMBER OF A NHA DISCIPLINARY PANEL
I'm reliably told that the next episode of Petergate is on Friday ,when the minor squabble of Tony not having written up his vet register once continues. I also hear via the grapevine that the Peter's are going to apply for 2 of the board to remove themselves .Knowing the normal type of lack of impartiality ,I'm sure they will refuse to go ,but then the fun is going to start The Peter's have already shown that they are not scared to go to court and will take the 3 board members and the NHA to court . If they win and from what I hear it's an odds on shot then the board members will get nailed for the Peter's legal costs . I also hear Riley ain't cheap and the board people will be in for about 300 k or about 100k each without the costs for their own lawyers bills,which they will have to pay themselves as the NHA can't pay for them as this would show more bias towards the paymaster.It also wouldn't be fair on the Members of the NHA to pay other people's legal bills .I wonder if the Peter's board members knows about what might be coming to them
I'm reliably told that the next episode of Petergate is on Friday ,when the minor squabble of Tony not having written up his vet register once continues. I also hear via the grapevine that the Peter's are going to apply for 2 of the board to remove themselves .Knowing the normal type of lack of impartiality ,I'm sure they will refuse to go ,but then the fun is going to start The Peter's have already shown that they are not scared to go to court and will take the 3 board members and the NHA to court . If they win and from what I hear it's an odds on shot then the board members will get nailed for the Peter's legal costs . I also hear Riley ain't cheap and the board people will be in for about 300 k or about 100k each without the costs for their own lawyers bills,which they will have to pay themselves as the NHA can't pay for them as this would show more bias towards the paymaster.It also wouldn't be fair on the Members of the NHA to pay other people's legal bills .I wonder if the Peter's board members knows about what might be coming to them
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I have read the whatsapp messages floating around. It surprises me that nothing official from the NHRA has been released. It's difficult to know what is the truth and what is part of what is an obvious misinformation drive.
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Probably the wrong thread but I have just seen a video of I presume the Peters and 4 or 5 grooms being asked to empty their pockets and being searched today at Turffontein.. No reason given and seemingly the only stable asked to do so
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The Rules of The National Horseracing Authority of Southern Africa
4.2 GENERAL POWERS
4.2.6 to visit, inspect and search any place where training, racing or breeding of HORSES takes place, as well as any REGISTERED spelling farm and shall, in the course of such inspection and search, have unlimited access to all cupboards, refrigerators or vehicles in or on any such place and shall further be empowered to remove such items as the SB or STIPENDIARY STEWARDS may determine for the purposes of investigation and reporting thereon to the CHIEF EXECUTIVE;
Can someone enlighten the general public what the cry baby complaints are about when owners and trainers have signed up to these rules and regulations!!!
Grow a pair and take the good with the bad; otherwise
Challenge the constitutionality of the rules or the application thereof in a court of law.
PS. A friendly reminder, you bitches signed up to these rules. Why are you crying foul?
4.2 GENERAL POWERS
4.2.6 to visit, inspect and search any place where training, racing or breeding of HORSES takes place, as well as any REGISTERED spelling farm and shall, in the course of such inspection and search, have unlimited access to all cupboards, refrigerators or vehicles in or on any such place and shall further be empowered to remove such items as the SB or STIPENDIARY STEWARDS may determine for the purposes of investigation and reporting thereon to the CHIEF EXECUTIVE;
Can someone enlighten the general public what the cry baby complaints are about when owners and trainers have signed up to these rules and regulations!!!
Grow a pair and take the good with the bad; otherwise
Challenge the constitutionality of the rules or the application thereof in a court of law.
PS. A friendly reminder, you bitches signed up to these rules. Why are you crying foul?
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1 year 1 month agoProbably the wrong thread but I have just seen a video of I presume the Peters and 4 or 5 grooms being asked to empty their pockets and being searched today at Turffontein.. No reason given and seemingly the only stable asked to do so
@Bob,
Is ABC not permitted to post this video and the video of 25 November 2023 (Summer Cup Day)? Or does it compromise the parties involved in the pending litigation?
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One thing through this whole carry on... We have only posted one side of the story
Not because we are supporting the Peters, but because there have been no correspondence apart from press releases when parts of cases are dismissed or the original notice was filed
Not because we are supporting the Peters, but because there have been no correspondence apart from press releases when parts of cases are dismissed or the original notice was filed
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1 year 1 month agoIs there a part where it says people or persons present can be searched?The Rules of The National Horseracing Authority of Southern Africa
4.2 GENERAL POWERS
4.2.6 to visit, inspect and search any place where training, racing or breeding of HORSES takes place, as well as any REGISTERED spelling farm and shall, in the course of such inspection and search, have unlimited access to all cupboards, refrigerators or vehicles in or on any such place and shall further be empowered to remove such items as the SB or STIPENDIARY STEWARDS may determine for the purposes of investigation and reporting thereon to the CHIEF EXECUTIVE;
Can someone enlighten the general public what the cry baby complaints are about when owners and trainers have signed up to these rules and regulations!!!
Grow a pair and take the good with the bad; otherwise
Challenge the constitutionality of the rules or the application thereof in a court of law.
PS. A friendly reminder, you bitches signed up to these rules. Why are you crying foul?
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1 year 1 month agoThe Rules of The National Horseracing Authority of Southern Africa
4.2 GENERAL POWERS
4.2.6 to visit, inspect and search any place where training, racing or breeding of HORSES takes place, as well as any REGISTERED spelling farm and shall, in the course of such inspection and search, have unlimited access to all cupboards, refrigerators or vehicles in or on any such place and shall further be empowered to remove such items as the SB or STIPENDIARY STEWARDS may determine for the purposes of investigation and reporting thereon to the CHIEF EXECUTIVE;
Can someone enlighten the general public what the cry baby complaints are about when owners and trainers have signed up to these rules and regulations!!!
Grow a pair and take the good with the bad; otherwise
Challenge the constitutionality of the rules or the application thereof in a court of law.
PS. A friendly reminder, you bitches signed up to these rules. Why are you crying foul?
I cant find any reference to SEARCH A PERSON in the rules...Neither can I find a definition of the word SEARCH in the Terms and Definitions section...Could this be problematic in a Civil Court as there is no consent? Unless the NHA has asked for consent before the search and its not on the Video?
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Mr. H,
Warrantless inspections - search and siezure without a warrant is a minefield - enjoy the read.
www.saflii.org/za/journals/CCR/2016/12.pdf
Warrantless inspections - search and siezure without a warrant is a minefield - enjoy the read.
www.saflii.org/za/journals/CCR/2016/12.pdf
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1 year 1 month agoThe Rules of The National Horseracing Authority of Southern Africa
4.2 GENERAL POWERS
4.2.6 to visit, inspect and search any place where training, racing or breeding of HORSES takes place, as well as any REGISTERED spelling farm and shall, in the course of such inspection and search, have unlimited access to all cupboards, refrigerators or vehicles in or on any such place and shall further be empowered to remove such items as the SB or STIPENDIARY STEWARDS may determine for the purposes of investigation and reporting thereon to the CHIEF EXECUTIVE;
Can someone enlighten the general public what the cry baby complaints are about when owners and trainers have signed up to these rules and regulations!!!
Grow a pair and take the good with the bad; otherwise
Challenge the constitutionality of the rules or the application thereof in a court of law.
PS. A friendly reminder, you bitches signed up to these rules. Why are you crying foul?
I cant find any reference to SEARCH A PERSON in the rules...Neither can I find a definition of the word SEARCH in the Terms and Definitions section...Could this be problematic in a Civil Court as there is no consent? Unless the NHA has asked for consent before the search and its not on the Video?
.....have posted this before....in the Cyril Naidoo vs (the then) Jockey Club of South Africa case.....Naidoo lost his appeal in the High Court(kzn) when his wife was searched in a motor vehicle and the prohibited substance was found in her handbag.....unfortunately cannot access Saffili to post the link......but a judicial precident has been set....
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Here is a question to all and sundry? Is the game easy, or is this a Easy question?
But don't as Adrian Holloway (SP post on 27 April 2024 under the heading "Vaal Runner Withdrawn After TC02 Test"
"Am I wrong in my observation that...since the intro of TCO2 testing....the winners have seriously dried up for certain stables....no positives but likewise no winners either...not even from much vaunted juveniles....maybe the playing fields have eventually been evened"
But don't as Adrian Holloway (SP post on 27 April 2024 under the heading "Vaal Runner Withdrawn After TC02 Test"
"Am I wrong in my observation that...since the intro of TCO2 testing....the winners have seriously dried up for certain stables....no positives but likewise no winners either...not even from much vaunted juveniles....maybe the playing fields have eventually been evened"
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