Re:Turffontein Saturday - April Fools Day
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Turffontein Saturday - April Fools Day
2 years 4 months ago
It's no Joke!
There are 2 x Grade 1's, a Grade 2, and 2 x Grade 3 races on World Sports Betting Derby Day on Saturday
COMPUTAFORM: az-pgl-dsi-ag-cdn-aztabstorage.4racing.c...NTEIN@2023.04.01.pdf
There are 2 x Grade 1's, a Grade 2, and 2 x Grade 3 races on World Sports Betting Derby Day on Saturday
COMPUTAFORM: az-pgl-dsi-ag-cdn-aztabstorage.4racing.c...NTEIN@2023.04.01.pdf
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Re: Turffontein Saturday - April Fools Day
2 years 4 months ago
Should be great day and a decent Pick 6 😉
We just have to catch it 🙏
We just have to catch it 🙏
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Re: Turffontein Saturday - April Fools Day
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R2, Climate Control, feel he is bumping the right kind of field and if running to his rating, should be very competitive.
Guessing has never been widely acclaimed as a good gambling strategy.
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Re: Re:Turffontein Saturday - April Fools Day
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Melech’s mystery formline would have brought some intrigue to the Horse Chestnut. Now the race is just another boring Gauteng Gr1 race.
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Re: Re:Turffontein Saturday - April Fools Day
2 years 4 months agoMelech’s mystery formline would have brought some intrigue to the Horse Chestnut. Now the race is just another boring Gauteng Gr1 race.
It's a pity he is scratched Mac...... I think this race would have given Johno & Roy a good indication - exactly where this horse rates.... HE would have been in my P6 for sure.
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Re: Re:Turffontein Saturday - April Fools Day
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I see Emirate Gina also scratched - seems the stable may be affected by something - as today all 3 runners ran poorly

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Re: Re:Turffontein Saturday - April Fools Day
2 years 4 months ago - 2 years 4 months ago
A little editing on Saturday morning:
R1: Sure hope that Cosmic Star can win the first and that the presenter on the track asks the v Vuuren stable about their expectations about Puerto Manzono and Bingwa - but somehow I have my doubts on CS winning - I think a good each-way start is Mayor of Merrivale - and I expect the Fortune stable to have a good day
R2: Very competitive - don't really fancy anything
R3: I do expect Big Burn to bounce back - but that last run is a little worrying and although it is a small field, the inside draw is also not in her favor - also not sure if Fourie opted for Danilo .... so all in all some doubt; for me both Master Archie (big weight) and Bartholdi (needs a fast gallop which looks likely) - Winter Stories could be a value inclusion in the trifecta - needs to return to his best form, but Muzi and interesting booking
Did a little early studying ....
R4: Open start - first choice for me is Supreme Quest - but none of them can be left out if you want to be sure to survive the first leg of the P6
Morning light has not bring any clarity for me - even Global Impact who ran close behind Royal Victory in his debut not to be taken lightly; Bard of Avon cherry ripe - I'm taking the field in the P6
R5: 1100m - might be a touch sharp for Gobsmacked and Maharanee and a touch far for Far Away Winter, Miss Daisy is 7kgs better off with Mercantour who won nicely over the track and trip last time - those seem the principles with Quantum Theory imo
Mercantour finding market support - so definite runner; looks like Maharanee is not fancied ; I'm still including Miss Daisy
R6: I'm guessing that Bingwa has been primed for this so is my first choice; Under Your Spell was imo not given a great ride last time, but still won and must be a big danger; don't think the 3 yr olds are up to it at these weights; Trip of Fortune a dark horse, but has an iffy draw, while Golden Ducat may need this (but Fourie rides
) and also an iffy draw - one last chance maybe for MK who tries blinkers
No clues yet from the betting
R7: I think the Derby is open - not sure that the best weighted runners are sure to get the trip, which makes it competitive; the lower rated runners are out at the weights but imo suited better to the trip - I think African Torrent is big value at the price
Big support for Son of Raj - still like the look of African Torrent and even Top Sail who are both weighted to run close to SoR
R8: One has to take a chance somewhere, and I think Bless My Stars has a lot going for her - beat most of these last time and I'm betting she will get the trip being out of a staying SIlvano mare
Nothing has changed my mind yet
R9: This will be tactical race; a lot points to Nebraas, but he has not won for more than 300 days; Shangani looks held by Nebraas, but is versatile and can run from the front or come from behind, so would be a bit stupid to ignore his chances; Flashy Apache gets a whopping 10kgs from Shangani, and could be a danger if he stays the trip, while I personally can't leave out Raisethehallelujah - those look the principles imo
Sticking with the 3 mentioned
R10: Got to like Storm Dictator on his last run; roughie that catches my eye is Western Wishes - Bling now rides
Enjoy
R1: Sure hope that Cosmic Star can win the first and that the presenter on the track asks the v Vuuren stable about their expectations about Puerto Manzono and Bingwa - but somehow I have my doubts on CS winning - I think a good each-way start is Mayor of Merrivale - and I expect the Fortune stable to have a good day

R2: Very competitive - don't really fancy anything

R3: I do expect Big Burn to bounce back - but that last run is a little worrying and although it is a small field, the inside draw is also not in her favor - also not sure if Fourie opted for Danilo .... so all in all some doubt; for me both Master Archie (big weight) and Bartholdi (needs a fast gallop which looks likely) - Winter Stories could be a value inclusion in the trifecta - needs to return to his best form, but Muzi and interesting booking
Did a little early studying ....
R4: Open start - first choice for me is Supreme Quest - but none of them can be left out if you want to be sure to survive the first leg of the P6
Morning light has not bring any clarity for me - even Global Impact who ran close behind Royal Victory in his debut not to be taken lightly; Bard of Avon cherry ripe - I'm taking the field in the P6
R5: 1100m - might be a touch sharp for Gobsmacked and Maharanee and a touch far for Far Away Winter, Miss Daisy is 7kgs better off with Mercantour who won nicely over the track and trip last time - those seem the principles with Quantum Theory imo
Mercantour finding market support - so definite runner; looks like Maharanee is not fancied ; I'm still including Miss Daisy
R6: I'm guessing that Bingwa has been primed for this so is my first choice; Under Your Spell was imo not given a great ride last time, but still won and must be a big danger; don't think the 3 yr olds are up to it at these weights; Trip of Fortune a dark horse, but has an iffy draw, while Golden Ducat may need this (but Fourie rides

No clues yet from the betting

R7: I think the Derby is open - not sure that the best weighted runners are sure to get the trip, which makes it competitive; the lower rated runners are out at the weights but imo suited better to the trip - I think African Torrent is big value at the price
Big support for Son of Raj - still like the look of African Torrent and even Top Sail who are both weighted to run close to SoR
R8: One has to take a chance somewhere, and I think Bless My Stars has a lot going for her - beat most of these last time and I'm betting she will get the trip being out of a staying SIlvano mare
Nothing has changed my mind yet
R9: This will be tactical race; a lot points to Nebraas, but he has not won for more than 300 days; Shangani looks held by Nebraas, but is versatile and can run from the front or come from behind, so would be a bit stupid to ignore his chances; Flashy Apache gets a whopping 10kgs from Shangani, and could be a danger if he stays the trip, while I personally can't leave out Raisethehallelujah - those look the principles imo
Sticking with the 3 mentioned
R10: Got to like Storm Dictator on his last run; roughie that catches my eye is Western Wishes - Bling now rides
Enjoy

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Re: Re:Turffontein Saturday - April Fools Day
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Morning
Not sure if weather might play a role?
We having a bit thunder and lighting this morning and some decent rain.
Not sure if weather might play a role?
We having a bit thunder and lighting this morning and some decent rain.
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Re: Re:Turffontein Saturday - April Fools Day
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An interesting raider from the Hill stable in the Derby. Paris Pike 40/1.
Last 5 runs, 3 wins(2 on the poly) , a 2nd and a 5th.
If memory serves correctly, they raided a few years ago and won with a horse at big odds.
Last 5 runs, 3 wins(2 on the poly) , a 2nd and a 5th.
If memory serves correctly, they raided a few years ago and won with a horse at big odds.
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Re: Re:Turffontein Saturday - April Fools Day
2 years 4 months agoAn interesting raider from the Hill stable in the Derby. Paris Pike 40/1.
Last 5 runs, 3 wins(2 on the poly) , a 2nd and a 5th.
If memory serves correctly, they raided a few years ago and won with a horse at big odds.
That was Camphoratus beat Running Brave in the Empress Club.
Gavin van Zyl won the Derby with Seal but he had a satellite stable in Gauteng. Marchingontogether ran third in the Derby having before that only running in KZN.
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Re: Turffontein Saturday - April Fools Day
2 years 4 months agoR2, Climate Control, feel he is bumping the right kind of field and if running to his rating, should be very competitive.
Fourie not riding , can he not make the weight ?
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Re: Turffontein Saturday - April Fools Day
2 years 4 months ago - 2 years 4 months agoR2, Climate Control, feel he is bumping the right kind of field and if running to his rating, should be very competitive.
Fourie not riding , can he not make the weight ?
Fourie's current riding weight is 54.0kg, horse carded to carry 52.0kg.
I do believe jockeys have an effect on a horse's price, no disrespect to JP. I think the current price is big and Climate Control should jump at shorter odds.
Guessing has never been widely acclaimed as a good gambling strategy.
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