Paul Peter showing a positive R1 win bet

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Paul Peter showing a positive R1 win bet

2 years 11 months ago
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R43 profit if you had to put R1 win on all Paul Peters runners this season.
On the other hand if you had to do that with all Snaith's runners you would be a whopping R487 down.
Tarry -R209
De Kock -R144
Smith -R392
Bass-Robinson -R167
Greeff -R172

The only other trainers with a positive balance in the top 100 are...
Crawford R14-50
Andre Nel R76-60
Nieuwenhuizen R7-40
Govender 20c
Gary Rich R11-30
Paul Reeves R14
Montana Turner R3-30

I do understand that the last few on the positive list probably had a couple of longshots winning as they haven't had many winners but a leading trainer with 1044 runners showing a profit is excellent going I think.
Snaith 60 or so more runners but a loss of R487 is the worst of all the trainers in the top 100.

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Re: Paul Peter showing a positive R1 win bet

2 years 11 months ago
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Durbs - This statistic means nothing. All that this says is that Snaith horses are generally shorter priced, and that he has more horses. For Paul, this says that he wins with longer priced horses. Again, Paul was a relatively unknown, whereas Snaith, like when Marcus rides a horse, the bookies generally price them up as favourite or thereabouts. You cannot measure a trainer's success based on tote prices of their winners.

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Re: Paul Peter showing a positive R1 win bet

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Durbs - This statistic means nothing. All that this says is that Snaith horses are generally shorter priced, and that he has more horses. For Paul, this says that he wins with longer priced horses. Again, Paul was a relatively unknown, whereas Snaith, like when Marcus rides a horse, the bookies generally price them up as favourite or thereabouts. You cannot measure a trainer's success based on tote prices of their winners.

Rubbish

Snaith 1110 runners with 144 winners (13%)
Peter 1053 winners with 198 winners ( 18.8% )

Figures taken from the NHA site and results up to: 2022-06-16

Paul finished second to Snaith on last years log and was Central Provinces champion trainer so I dont know where you come with "was a relative unknown". He finished ahead of relatively unknown trainers like Sakkie de Kock and Sean Tarry and will do so again this year.

Quite simply with less runners than Snaith, Paul has had more winners. Take the blinkers off son and acknowledge this years champion trainer.
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Re: Paul Peter showing a positive R1 win bet

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Not disputing this - What I am saying is, the differential is not as big as the rand value profits would suggest. Paul Peter is my undisputed best trainer out there currently.

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Re: Paul Peter showing a positive R1 win bet

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Durbs - This statistic means nothing. All that this says is that Snaith horses are generally shorter priced, and that he has more horses. For Paul, this says that he wins with longer priced horses. Again, Paul was a relatively unknown, whereas Snaith, like when Marcus rides a horse, the bookies generally price them up as favourite or thereabouts. You cannot measure a trainer's success based on tote prices of their winners.

I understand what you saying about Snaith's horses being shorter than what they should be but they show the biggest loss of all the top 100 trainers.

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