You two are debating as if one of you are right and one is wrong.
If everyone here thought the same then every race would have 1/10 favourites with all the money going on the collective thought.
No Thor, you too are missing the point. It is not about a selection of a horse, but about the perceived idea that we as punters are forever doomed in SA. I can tell you exhuberantly we are not. It is not a debate for me whatsoever. 99.9% of handicaps are pickable (or should be left). I am not entirely there yet, but I honestly believe it is mostly, tremendously above board. There are no rubbish horses and con-artsists. From time to time an inexplicable winner surfaces but it is the utmost rarity. That, I am not debating I know it whole heartedly and blame only myself for a loss (99% of the time)... Once you realise that, you start learning and making money. When you stop looking at rubbish like pedigree and move past your human wishful thinking, and mastering the indicators and statistics on the cards, you are well on your way to cashing in. Study the form, old form from last year, ancient form from years before, UK form HK form. Soon you will be embarrassed by how stupid you were when you thought you had it in the pocket. The form is a goldmine of info. We get it wrong but we arent being shafted. That is my point and I know beyond a shadow of a doubt I am right. I also know for a fact I will make more money this month than the collective ABC. Not because they can't spot a winner better than me, but they punt losers better than me. That is the key to making money at horse racing. This Turffontein card was an embrrassment to me, not because it is public, but because deep down inside I was a gambler for a day which is the fastest way to blame the powers at be. I am also not saying this to protect anybody, but to help a few step up from the stupid ladder. It is extremely easy to understand but it takes many, decades, lifetimes often. They will be punting quartets until they die and blame everyone but themselves.
