My idea for a new bet on Tote

Well it is actually old.

Create a second Pick Six

it can run same races as current Pick Six or start a leg earlier and finish a leg earlier.

Difference would be that coupling count in this second Pick Six.

Run this 2nd pick six for a month or so and see which of teh two is more popular.

i am getting tired of being bombed out by the wrong one winning from on of the big stables.

Just the rambling of a degenerate punter.

I personally feel one or the other Sly.
Would give the tote couplings a try for a few months.
Basically more winners, smaller payouts but generates more tote turnover.

It’s the hope of a big dividend that attracts the pool size in the Pick 6. If that hope is reduced then I’m sure so too will be the pool size. I say scrap both the jackpot and the Pick 6 and make a Pick7.


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Keep the P6 the way it is and rather add a Pick All(R6 unit) - Winner of every race with couplings allowed(someone should do a study and see how many unfancied stable couplings actually win - I personally don't think its that many except in PE and Cape as many stables don't have that many horses anymore for multiple entries)

Not part of the pick 6 but just turned on the TV to see Smith's 16-1 shot win with the 7-10 stable mate run out the PA.
Between Greeff and Smith that is why punters want the couplings back.
Mr.H is right it doesn't happen very often in KZN and TVL.

I think Scotia's quote on the balance thread is apt here as well.
The way local racing has become of late, trying to change the pick 6 is akin to rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

I firmly believe before anything is done, the Takeout needs to be reduced, and the betting options optimized. The PA is only played now because of sentimentality, but lacks any value whatsoever. Two jackpots is overkill. Rather have one one the last four races of the day. Quickmixes are hugely popular for their timeslots, and yet we only have 3 sometimes 4 a day?

The Pick 6 is the main driver for the pools to be carried forward. As such with the funds held in suspense earning interest , there is no way this lot is going to kill the goose that lays the golden egg.

Couplings will remain an item of the distant past.

Indeed they need a new bet to stimulate punting but do they have the quality service that can drive turnover of any new or current product????

I rarely play the P6 bet but my understanding is it should remain difficult to win. To get those 6 magic numbers should be worth it and shouldn't be an everyday thing in the event couplings are introduced. I know punters want to win the P6, but at what price??

Thor wrote:

I think Scotia's quote on the balance thread is apt here as well.
The way local racing has become of late, trying to change the pick 6 is akin to rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

I firmly believe before anything is done, the Takeout needs to be reduced, and the betting options optimized. The PA is only played now because of sentimentality, but lacks any value whatsoever. Two jackpots is overkill. Rather have one one the last four races of the day. Quickmixes are hugely popular for their timeslots, and yet we only have 3 sometimes 4 a day?

I don't follow these bets but on today's pools 90k combined pools for 3 Jackpots Quickmixes - Fariview Jackpots combined are 360k - Pa 265k Bipot 156k so that seems to indicate punters don't go for these bets PA quickmix only 27k - Yesterday even smaller pools

A straight bet first 4 or last 4 races to run in the 1st 3 like a jackpot n a place pot. That's my 2c

You cannot make a direct comparison of the quickmix to the local pools. You compare them to the other international exotics available for those time slots they are offered.
Also consider, the local racing has all the seasoned players playing daily regardless of the results, and has all the build up and coverage. Most quick mixes are lucky to get a mention.
I mentioned the quick mixes purely as s supplementary bet, certainly not to replace the local exotics. No reason why there shouldn't be more of them in a day.

Just imagine having tote couplings when we will soon have just three carded trainers for the meeting. You laugh?