Another Kimberley positive - no its not a positive statement

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Another Kimberley positive - no its not a positive statement

6 years 3 months ago
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Skandaal.

Another one from everyone's favourite yard.

Well done David Rahilly you rooting the guilty out.

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Re: Another Kimberley positive - no its not a positive statement

6 years 3 months ago
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you joking right

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Re: Another Kimberley positive - no its not a positive statement

6 years 3 months ago - 6 years 3 months ago
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www.sportingpost.co.za/2019/02/prohibite...ce-bill-human-fined/

Just getting the popcorn out and awaiting the inevitable I dont know what I'm talking about blah blah blah from the guilty and the sidekicks
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Re: Another Kimberley positive - no its not a positive statement

6 years 3 months ago
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If the trainer pleads not guilty then is he not implying the assistant trainer is to blame?

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Re: Another Kimberley positive - no its not a positive statement

6 years 3 months ago
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Craig Pienaar wrote: If the trainer pleads not guilty then is he not implying the assistant trainer is to blame?

No the trainer has to shoulder the blame, it could be a vet issue

They mostly plead not guilty

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Re: Another Kimberley positive - no its not a positive statement

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1)The drug is commonly known as Aspirin. We use it often, to clear up mild mucus, slight temperature etc.
2)Trainer cannot plead NOT GUILTY, as the charge is worded, " are you the licensed Trainer responsible for..." They want a yes or a no, a guilty or a not guilty . Nothing in between, no stories, no facts. Simple for them, whilst the strict liability rule applies...

U the Trainer, U guilty. Easy peasy.

Of course you CAN plead NOT GUILTY...they simply destroy your plea within 5 minutes...
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Re: Another Kimberley positive - no its not a positive statement

6 years 3 months ago
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R 15 000 much too little. Should make it R 150 000 . A real deterrent. Maybe others won`t dare!!

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Re: Another Kimberley positive - no its not a positive statement

6 years 3 months ago - 6 years 3 months ago
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Salicylic acid is not the same thing as aspirin - the latter is acetylsalicylic acid

ps. but maybe they meant "acetylsalicylic acid"
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Re: Another Kimberley positive - no its not a positive statement

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Googling Salicylic acid reveals it is a pain blocker. So those cripples that make their way down to Limberley get some "help" to run and not feel. Let anyone come on here and defend that practice. I am amazed that the choir have fallen silent.
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Re: Another Kimberley positive - no its not a positive statement

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SALICYLIC ACID IN SPORTS HORSES
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The NHRA (National Horse Racing Association) have issued an urgent warning regarding the use of products containing salicylic acid in/on horses that compete in competitions
A sudden drastic increase in the blood levels of horses that are tested for prohibited substances in various sports disciplines placed this ingredient/substance in the spotlight.

Salicylic acid is a natural pain control medication that is also found in certain plants. Therefore FEI
has determined a threshold level that is allowed in the blood and urine. In short this means that a
certain level of salicylic acid is allowed in a horse’s blood because it can be consumed in their food or on pastures. Amongst the plants which naturally contain salicylic acid is Lucerne and the bark of
certain Willow trees as well as other grazing.The threshold value determined by the FEI is 750
micrograms salicylic acid per ml in the urine, or 6.5 microgram salicylic acid per ml in plasma. When this threshold is exceeded, it is seen as positive test for a prohibited substance because no natural intake can result in the higher levels(the threshold value was determined by scientific studies) and high levels then result from another source like oral, rectal or dermal preparations applied by the
owners or riders before or during a competition.

There are quite a few commercial human and veterinary products that contain salicylic acid. It is
found in Aspirin (the use of which before or during a ride is clearly forbidden – see attached list
supplied by Dr Glynn Catton); rectal preparations (also prohibited and only available on prescription)
and preparations that are rubbed onto the skin of animals/humans The preparation penetrates the
skin and is taken up by the bloodstream.These preparations are the most commonly used form of
use of salicylic acid in horses and therefore the riders are warned to ensure which topical (on the
skin applications they use on competition horses.Gel preparations and bandages result in
extending the contact period of the substance with the skin and therefore increases the level of
uptake.
Examples of products that contain salicylic acid or derivatives thereof are: (PLEASE NOTE – this is not a complete list and therefore the owner/rider is cautioned to check each product that they use before or during the ride, to get clarity on the content of those products that contain salicylic acid by reading the package insert).
Antiseptic Dusting Powder; Pottie’s Green Ointment; Rudduck’s Green Ointment; Vetsense Otiderm; injectable preparation named Salsprin; Dermcusal; Phlegmon Black Label ointment; Pottie’s Electric Oil; R-Iodine; Sprain Liniment Gel; Vet Balm; Sebbaderm; Antipoel Ointment; Diprosalic Ointment /Lotion; Elosalic Ointment; Posalfilin Ointment; Counterpain Ointment; Docrub Ointment; Sloan’s Heat Rub cream; Thermo Rub; Rigly Horse Liniment; Udderbalm like Golden Udder; Deep Heat Rub ; Equiline Liniment; Oil of Wintergreen; Oticlear; Dr Scholl’s products (Callus remover, Clear away); Exoderm; Kenakort A; Duocylat; Sodium salicyl; Salivet and others.
NB: Any product that contains Salicylic acid, Acetylsalicylic and/or Methy salicylic acid must please not be used or rubbed in under bandages for at least 3 days before the start of the ride. (Remember – the ride already starts with the pre-checks).
Should natural levels be exceeded, it will be recorded as testing positive for a prohibited substance.
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Re: Another Kimberley positive - no its not a positive statement

6 years 3 months ago
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the fantasy wrote: R 15 000 much too little. Should make it R 150 000 . A real deterrent. Maybe others won`t dare!!

......the NHRA have guidelines to the value of fines as to the severity of the infraction and the substance category.....R150K a bit harsh for the overuse traditional leg rubbing compounds and products and I often thought that other racing jurisdictions were overly harsh in banning products like Wintergreen and Deep Heat Rub which I believed that they were targeting menthol ........yet it is this ingredient that is the desensitizer and pain reliever.....:huh:

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Re: Another Kimberley positive - no its not a positive statement

6 years 3 months ago
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Did Mike De Kock not get caught for the same drug at Greyville with Janoobi winning?

I’m sure it was this horse with Striker on at Greyville in a Grade 2 race?

The horse had leg issues or something and they gave it same/type of drug to “numb” the pain

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