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Re: Kenilworth Saturday
7 years 6 months ago
Looking at the sprint Via Sacre should have put that field to bed although she was kinda lost in the early part of the race but this is a step up in class now!
Ma Forte holds all of those that ran with her but she isnt in the betting but that means little when the gates crash open.Also Via Sacre beat the same horse Champenois did and she wasnt good enough in a 76. Crawford won this race last year,now a 1000m.Look at his runners form and you always come back to Snaith's.unfortunately her times for her first three wins weren't all that impressive ,but im sure shes talented
Ma Forte holds all of those that ran with her but she isnt in the betting but that means little when the gates crash open.Also Via Sacre beat the same horse Champenois did and she wasnt good enough in a 76. Crawford won this race last year,now a 1000m.Look at his runners form and you always come back to Snaith's.unfortunately her times for her first three wins weren't all that impressive ,but im sure shes talented
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Re: Kenilworth Saturday
7 years 6 months agomydada wrote: Looking at the sprint Via Sacre should have put that field to bed although she was kinda lost in the early part of the race but this is a step up in class now!
Ma Forte holds all of those that ran with her but she isnt in the betting but that means little when the gates crash open.Also Via Sacre beat the same horse Champenois did and she wasnt good enough in a 76. Crawford won this race last year,now a 1000m.Look at his runners form and you always come back to Snaith's.unfortunately her times for her first three wins weren't all that impressive ,but im sure shes talented
Via Sacra had everything against her in her last run, which was her seasonal debut in the Cape. She conceded weight all round, and in fact conceded 11.5kgs to the winner, that's a shit-load of weight to concede. She wasn't given a punishing ride and will have come on a ton with that run under the belt. Ma Forte is taking on much stronger and would be a shock winner, taking nothing less than 40/1 about this one.
Guessing has never been widely acclaimed as a good gambling strategy.
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7 years 6 months ago
You are right Bayern but an example of what i am trying to say is the third filly in that race carrying just 2.5 less finished well behind Regal Ruby to Magical Wonderland and RR was beaten over six lenghts by MF
You cant go backing MF but the favourite can be on shaky ground although Rauvonnes comment still rings in my ear regarding being with Via next time out
Maybe she wins easily,tough game this is
You cant go backing MF but the favourite can be on shaky ground although Rauvonnes comment still rings in my ear regarding being with Via next time out
Maybe she wins easily,tough game this is
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7 years 6 months ago
Her siblling report also leaves a lot to be desired (1-1 favourite)
Could be wrong but i might remember her mother
5. Via Sacra (SAF) [2014]
Dennis Drier
Pathfork (Usa) - Via Cosa Coma (Saf)
Last Run: KNI 28/10/2017 TABONLINE.CO.ZA FM 68 HANDICAP (F & M)
MAN FROM MILAN (SAF) [2011] - ANTONIUS PIUS (USA)
1w-6p-35s $23,300
Race: 1000-1600m Won: 1000-1000m
LA STRADA (SAF) [2012] - WINDRUSH (USA)
1w-2p-12s $11,900
Race: 1000-1600m Won: 1200-1200m
ROYAL ENCLOSURE (SAF) [2013] - GREAT BRITAIN (GB)
0w-0p-6s
Could be wrong but i might remember her mother
5. Via Sacra (SAF) [2014]
Dennis Drier
Pathfork (Usa) - Via Cosa Coma (Saf)
Last Run: KNI 28/10/2017 TABONLINE.CO.ZA FM 68 HANDICAP (F & M)
MAN FROM MILAN (SAF) [2011] - ANTONIUS PIUS (USA)
1w-6p-35s $23,300
Race: 1000-1600m Won: 1000-1000m
LA STRADA (SAF) [2012] - WINDRUSH (USA)
1w-2p-12s $11,900
Race: 1000-1600m Won: 1200-1200m
ROYAL ENCLOSURE (SAF) [2013] - GREAT BRITAIN (GB)
0w-0p-6s
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Re: Kenilworth Saturday
7 years 6 months ago - 7 years 6 months ago
Race 4 - Sand and Sea 11/10
Super 2yo. His debut win was amazing and he followed that up with a stunning GR. 1 win. He was a big 2yo and I hope he's trained on and filled his frame. He's very well-weighted here and should be making a winning reappearance. I think Lord Balmoral is the danger so ill have a little boxed exacta on that.
Race 5 - Kinaan 16/10
Looked very impressive on his when running a close second to the classy stayer let it rain. Should be very competitive here.
Race 6 - Bold Respect 5/1, Sir Frenchie 8/1
Bold Respect is a horse I've followed since his debut and he won for me on Met Day when narrowly beating Wonderwall and I hope he does it again. Look his best trip is not 7 furlong but look @ last year when Sergeant Hardy went so close to winning this and he too is not a 7furlong horse.
The winter course with its short run in will suit speedy horses and that's why he could get the trip here. He definitely has been prepped for this being his 3rd run after rest and even though he has a horror draw, he has bundles of gate speed and should get over quick enough.
Did not expect Sir Frenchie to run as well as he did in the Classic but he ran a cracker from off them. He will be sharper for this race and this is much weaker. He will be running on strongly.
Also had a nibble @25/1 phelan lucky, another horse ive been following and i'd feel a bit silly were he to pop up.
Race 7 - Broadway Trip 4/1, Do It Again 10/1
My 3 horses in my notebook are Undercover Agent, Broadway Trip and Do It Again.
I'll start with Do It Again - I rate him highly and while he beat nothing LTO, the manner of his last win suggested he is very good. He'll definitely prefer the long run-in and more ground. IMO, we won't see the best of him on Saturday - he'll be ridden off the pace and we know the Winter Course usually favours strong frontrunners. BUT he does have an amazing turn of foot - watch his last win and it is something out of the top draw IMO - doubt he'll be fully wound up but don't put too much stock on Saturday's run. BIG Cape Guineas and Derby runner.
Undercover Agent is a horse that seems to like being ridden handy and that means the winter course will suit him. He showed LTO he's not far at all from Tap 'O Noth who's probably the leading Guineas candidate. the extra 200m will suit him and I can see him going very close here.
Broadway Trip also has an amazing turn of foot which will help him here. First time left handed will be a worry but he is classy. There is doubt over the Flying Free form who ran below par in the Graham Beck but in BT's defence, FF had a wide draw there and BT did carry 3kgs more. This race will show if he's good enough.
Anytime I mention more than 1 horse in a race, I also do boxed exactas and I think it's something you guys who fancy 2 horses in a race should be doing. In these wide open races, they really pay well and you only need 1 or 2 and you'll be way ahead.
Last week the Sommerlied x Casual Diamond exacta paid about R68. Definitely something to keep in mind as they add up over time.
Super 2yo. His debut win was amazing and he followed that up with a stunning GR. 1 win. He was a big 2yo and I hope he's trained on and filled his frame. He's very well-weighted here and should be making a winning reappearance. I think Lord Balmoral is the danger so ill have a little boxed exacta on that.
Race 5 - Kinaan 16/10
Looked very impressive on his when running a close second to the classy stayer let it rain. Should be very competitive here.
Race 6 - Bold Respect 5/1, Sir Frenchie 8/1
Bold Respect is a horse I've followed since his debut and he won for me on Met Day when narrowly beating Wonderwall and I hope he does it again. Look his best trip is not 7 furlong but look @ last year when Sergeant Hardy went so close to winning this and he too is not a 7furlong horse.
The winter course with its short run in will suit speedy horses and that's why he could get the trip here. He definitely has been prepped for this being his 3rd run after rest and even though he has a horror draw, he has bundles of gate speed and should get over quick enough.
Did not expect Sir Frenchie to run as well as he did in the Classic but he ran a cracker from off them. He will be sharper for this race and this is much weaker. He will be running on strongly.
Also had a nibble @25/1 phelan lucky, another horse ive been following and i'd feel a bit silly were he to pop up.
Race 7 - Broadway Trip 4/1, Do It Again 10/1
My 3 horses in my notebook are Undercover Agent, Broadway Trip and Do It Again.
I'll start with Do It Again - I rate him highly and while he beat nothing LTO, the manner of his last win suggested he is very good. He'll definitely prefer the long run-in and more ground. IMO, we won't see the best of him on Saturday - he'll be ridden off the pace and we know the Winter Course usually favours strong frontrunners. BUT he does have an amazing turn of foot - watch his last win and it is something out of the top draw IMO - doubt he'll be fully wound up but don't put too much stock on Saturday's run. BIG Cape Guineas and Derby runner.
Undercover Agent is a horse that seems to like being ridden handy and that means the winter course will suit him. He showed LTO he's not far at all from Tap 'O Noth who's probably the leading Guineas candidate. the extra 200m will suit him and I can see him going very close here.
Broadway Trip also has an amazing turn of foot which will help him here. First time left handed will be a worry but he is classy. There is doubt over the Flying Free form who ran below par in the Graham Beck but in BT's defence, FF had a wide draw there and BT did carry 3kgs more. This race will show if he's good enough.
Anytime I mention more than 1 horse in a race, I also do boxed exactas and I think it's something you guys who fancy 2 horses in a race should be doing. In these wide open races, they really pay well and you only need 1 or 2 and you'll be way ahead.
Last week the Sommerlied x Casual Diamond exacta paid about R68. Definitely something to keep in mind as they add up over time.
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Re: Kenilworth Saturday
7 years 6 months ago
Race 1: Workriders races always tricky. Above Eleven will win if repeating her second run but bled last time so not reliable. Popinjay fair debut and must have a chance. Secret Nameis well tried, consistent form. Mochavar should also improve.
Race 2: Via Sacre looks the right one but no value at odds on. Clifton Sunset has to give weight but is the class filly in the race. Ma Forte has run below form recently but has dropped in the ratings and could spring a surprise.
Race 3: Mambo Mine is weighted to win this - on his best form he is well above his current 91 rating. Milton is a relentless galloper and must always be respected.
Race 4: Final Judgement is very well in at the weights and although 1200 is a bit sharp for her I think she is good ew value at 10/1. I would ignore her last run where nothing went her way and she was not persevered with in the finish. Sand and Sea is an exciting prospect and clearly the one to beat but very cramped odds. Lord Balmoral and Green Plains include in quartets.
Race 5: Kinaan looks the right one; Master’s Eye must be considered if he sees out the trip. Mangrove is a bit out at the weights but has scope for improvement this trip.
Race 6: The draws and the recent below par form of the powerful Tarry yard make this tricky. Barrack Street is the only one of the top 6 to draw in single figures although any of the other top 5 can win with a bit of luck in running and the scratching of the reserve runners does help the draws a bit.
Race 7: Eyes Wide Open remains my Guineas pick but tough to give 2 kg to other top sorts. Broadway Trip has done nothing wrong and is the one to beat. Undercover Agent improved nicely last time. Ancestry had a soft run last time but must also be respected.
Race 8: The most open race on the card. White Rose was disappointing last time but had excuses and has an ew chance today. Glamorous Life is on the up. Solana looked in need of her last run and has run well against stronger. Janice’s Secret beat a weak maiden field but could surprise with a paperweight.
Race 9: Destiny Duchess an unlucky loser last time and is the one to beat. Zanadu, Chestnuts Charm, March Affair and Lady Sutton all have fair form. Unicorn and Tease have the most scope for improvement.
Race 2: Via Sacre looks the right one but no value at odds on. Clifton Sunset has to give weight but is the class filly in the race. Ma Forte has run below form recently but has dropped in the ratings and could spring a surprise.
Race 3: Mambo Mine is weighted to win this - on his best form he is well above his current 91 rating. Milton is a relentless galloper and must always be respected.
Race 4: Final Judgement is very well in at the weights and although 1200 is a bit sharp for her I think she is good ew value at 10/1. I would ignore her last run where nothing went her way and she was not persevered with in the finish. Sand and Sea is an exciting prospect and clearly the one to beat but very cramped odds. Lord Balmoral and Green Plains include in quartets.
Race 5: Kinaan looks the right one; Master’s Eye must be considered if he sees out the trip. Mangrove is a bit out at the weights but has scope for improvement this trip.
Race 6: The draws and the recent below par form of the powerful Tarry yard make this tricky. Barrack Street is the only one of the top 6 to draw in single figures although any of the other top 5 can win with a bit of luck in running and the scratching of the reserve runners does help the draws a bit.
Race 7: Eyes Wide Open remains my Guineas pick but tough to give 2 kg to other top sorts. Broadway Trip has done nothing wrong and is the one to beat. Undercover Agent improved nicely last time. Ancestry had a soft run last time but must also be respected.
Race 8: The most open race on the card. White Rose was disappointing last time but had excuses and has an ew chance today. Glamorous Life is on the up. Solana looked in need of her last run and has run well against stronger. Janice’s Secret beat a weak maiden field but could surprise with a paperweight.
Race 9: Destiny Duchess an unlucky loser last time and is the one to beat. Zanadu, Chestnuts Charm, March Affair and Lady Sutton all have fair form. Unicorn and Tease have the most scope for improvement.
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Re: Kenilworth Saturday
7 years 6 months ago
Sand and Sea is all class and will take a power of beating today!!!
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7 years 6 months agoSammy Silver wrote: Sand and Sea is all class and will take a power of beating today!!!
i will play a boxed exacta with Green Plains and some bets on her based on their times on the 27 May Scottsville
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7 years 6 months ago - 7 years 6 months ago
Race 1: Secret Name has done enough to win a race like this, has had excuses in last two. Alumite changes listed in today’s card changes. After this is pretty moderate stuff. Very little seperating the rest of the field which is pretty closely matched.
Race 2: Of the proven performers, a good run can be expected from Clifton Sunset – regardless of the weight. Might need some runs after peak effort last time out. China Pearl expected to be a big runner – returns after 181 days, was an impressive winner and ran 0.75 lengths to live life. Make It Raine and Via Sacra hint at class – Make It Raine having 3 subsequent winners emerge from two of her wins. Make It Raine and Via Sacra face stiff test in seeing off China Pearl. Race will reveal valuable information for further season. With Cheyne on Make It Raine, and a line through China Pearl and Clifton Sunset - that looks the one.
Race 3: Small field but very tricky. Personally i lean to Star Chestnut , but these are all very evenly matched.
Race 4: Just for watching Sand and Sea and Green Plains - let them sort out which is superior.
Race 2: Of the proven performers, a good run can be expected from Clifton Sunset – regardless of the weight. Might need some runs after peak effort last time out. China Pearl expected to be a big runner – returns after 181 days, was an impressive winner and ran 0.75 lengths to live life. Make It Raine and Via Sacra hint at class – Make It Raine having 3 subsequent winners emerge from two of her wins. Make It Raine and Via Sacra face stiff test in seeing off China Pearl. Race will reveal valuable information for further season. With Cheyne on Make It Raine, and a line through China Pearl and Clifton Sunset - that looks the one.
Race 3: Small field but very tricky. Personally i lean to Star Chestnut , but these are all very evenly matched.
Race 4: Just for watching Sand and Sea and Green Plains - let them sort out which is superior.
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Re: Kenilworth Saturday
7 years 6 months ago
In the first, nothing is finding any betting support bar Danando who has come in a few points - I'm not a great believer in times, but this is 1000, and Popinjay put up a fair first run in a fast run race; looks the right one from Danando who may give P something to think about under the very experienced Mr Bambiso
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7 years 6 months agoFrodo wrote: In the first, nothing is finding any betting support bar Danando who has come in a few points - I'm not a great believer in times, but this is 1000, and Popinjay put up a fair first run in a fast run race; looks the right one from Danando who may give P something to think about under the very experienced Mr Bambiso
My two entries in the comp...those two are my selections... with the preference for Popinjay
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7 years 6 months ago
Plenty Support and Whispers for Drier Double .
VIA SACRA
SAND AND SEA
Other Whispers - UNDERCOVER AGENT
VIA SACRA
SAND AND SEA
Other Whispers - UNDERCOVER AGENT
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