W.Cape bans publications

  • Tony Mincione
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W.Cape bans publications

7 years 10 months ago
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The Phumelela publications ban has metastasized to the Cape.

Racing is dying. Tracks close, branches close, tote turnover is shrinking... and Phumelela's answer is to put pressure on other racing publications in the name of fair competition.

Who thinks that extinguishing the last vehicles of racing information is a good idea? It is impossible to believe this is not an instruction from the top and so it is the official strategy. You may wonder how a company which has a state mandated monopoly and a R5 billion t/over decides that it's cool to go for small independent businesses within their monopoly footprint. You would be right to wonder.

Any SA internet site or publication that is full time horse racing is done on passion. Racing is not growing, and horse racing as we know it has no idea how to cultivate new interest from the next generation.

I cannot believe that this is what people in the Western Cape want, and I can't believe it's what the leadership want. Fewer options is never what a customer wants. Then why would you let your management company take another step to squeeze the life out of racing? How does killing publications save or enhance the sport?

It's a disgrace. People, you get the government you deserve and if we carry on like this then we deserve nothing less. Racing desperately needs a change of attitude because some things just have to be done for the love of the sport or it cannot survive. Owners and punters know that often they will lose money doing this, and yet we do it anyway.

When your response is bash or destroy things... then you have no idea what a win-win is, and banning publications is what autocrats and depots do, in other words thugs.
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Re: W.Cape bans publications

7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago
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Tony Mincione wrote: The Phumelela publications ban has metastasized to the Cape.

Racing is dying. Tracks close, branches close, tote turnover is shrinking... and Phumelela's answer is to put pressure on other racing publications in the name of fair competition.

Who thinks that extinguishing the last vehicles of racing information is a good idea? It is impossible to believe this is not an instruction from the top and so it is the official strategy. You may wonder how a company which has a state mandated monopoly and a R5 billion t/over decides that it's cool to go for small independent businesses within their monopoly footprint. You would be right to wonder.

Any SA internet site or publication that is full time horse racing is done on passion. Racing is not growing, and horse racing as we know it has no idea how to cultivate new interest from the next generation.

I cannot believe that this is what people in the Western Cape want, and I can't believe it's what the leadership want. Fewer options is never what a customer wants. Then why would you let your management company take another step to squeeze the life out of racing? How does killing publications save or enhance the sport?

It's a disgrace. People, you get the government you deserve and if we carry on like this then we deserve nothing less. Racing desperately needs a change of attitude because some things just have to be done for the love of the sport or it cannot survive. Owners and punters know that often they will lose money doing this, and yet we do it anyway.

When your response is bash or destroy things... then you have no idea what a win-win is, and banning publications is what autocrats and depots do, in other words thugs.


Very simply put - Racing thrived when it was fighted on National TV regularly... was given airtime on Radio daily and was given a dedicated page in most newspapers - The less exposure it got the smaller it's reach - Killing publications that COST the operator nothing to produce but keep the product alive is insane... Rather spend efforts to get more exposure rather than trying to get less by killing FREE SPEECH PUBLICATIONS that do not print His Master's Voice and proclaim Racing to be in the best place ever - The Breeders spend a great deal of money advertising in the Sporting Post and that obviously gives them returns - now if the aim is to kill this paper where will ppotential owners go to get sales info and pen pics of foals on sales etc (not the Citizen surely) ? Was this even considered?
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Re: W.Cape bans publications

7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago
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But we have Messrs Jooste, van Niekerk and Kantor as directors of Phum. We know that their passion for horseracing is not just about the race. What are we missing?
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7 years 10 months ago
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Mac wrote: But we have Messrs Jooste, van Niekerk and Kantor as directors of Phum. We know that their passion for horseracing is not just about the race. What are we missing?
I see Racing's Saviour Sponsor - World Sports Betting - have a banner add on the Sporting Post Website - I wonder how they feel about this?

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7 years 10 months ago
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As mentioned on other posts, its becoming silly , all these mini wars from racing people.

Punters are the life blood and the more info they have, the more the tote will turnover winnings .

So lets make it difficult for them ??!! :woohoo:
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7 years 10 months ago
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Well said tony and after listening to julie interview mr scott about this issue i would like to challenge mr scott to go on james goodmans show with the likes of owen heffer and karel miedema also present and debate this issue and many others ..ITS all one way traffic with tellycrap and the phum gold owned media why not have the balls if you have any to have a debate not just your propaganda shit been aired all the time ..Your comparison to edgars is the biggest load of shit iv ever heard

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Re: W.Cape bans publications

7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago
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I am surprised that the Sporting Post expect Phumelela to play fair, when Phumelela have exhibited no signs of fair play when previously confronted with opposition from other quarters. Ask Ian Jayes. Ask the bookmakers who are not supportive of the new fee structures for Tellytrack. There are many other examples of Phumelela rolling over opposition. They feel that they are entitled when it comes to all racing matters. Its a question of time for the Sporting Post. I hope CV's have been updated.
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Re: W.Cape bans publications

7 years 10 months ago
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pirates wrote: Well said tony and after listening to julie interview mr scott about this issue i would like to challenge mr scott to go on james goodmans show with the likes of owen heffer and karel miedema also present and debate this issue and many others ..ITS all one way traffic with tellycrap and the phum gold owned media why not have the balls if you have any to have a debate not just your propaganda shit been aired all the time ..Your comparison to edgars is the biggest load of shit iv ever heard

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There seems to be some nice and interesting letters and postings on Sporting Post about this matter.

I have been trying to find this interview with Mr Scott and Julie but cant seem o find it anywhere. Please assist me in finding it. Thank You

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7 years 10 months ago
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I saw it on sunday night on the breeding to win show,,i see its not downloaded yet on tellytrack dot com

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Re: W.Cape bans publications

7 years 10 months ago
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mr hawaii wrote:
Mac wrote: But we have Messrs Jooste, van Niekerk and Kantor as directors of Phum. We know that their passion for horseracing is not just about the race. What are we missing?
I see Racing's Saviour Sponsor - World Sports Betting - have a banner add on the Sporting Post Website - I wonder how they feel about this?

I think winning form can be bought in some WSB branches

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Re: W.Cape bans publications

7 years 10 months ago
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What will happen here is that SP will again become more vocal, the (opposition) parties (SP and ABC) will huff and puff, and Zuma will just giggle away, with no accountability to customer care.

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7 years 10 months ago
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Dave Scott wrote: What will happen here is that SP will again become more vocal, the (opposition) parties (SP and ABC) will huff and puff, and Zuma will just giggle away, with no accountability to customer care.

IMO

Problem is unlike with Zuma and South Africa , when racing is gone it will be gone forever - Impossible to completely eradicate a Country but very easy to destroy a "pastime"

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