Under the lap racing

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Under the lap racing

9 years 10 months ago
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I would like to bring up the following subject

I often hear from owners and trainers during interviews that a particular person has a share in a horse but that person's name don't appear in the official ownership of the horse as per the official race card

Now as as far as I know according to NHA rules all owners in a TB that are racing must be color holders. It was /is still called under the lap racing and according to NHA rules not allowed and a person if get caught could lose it colors.

If the above is true, and please correct me if I am wrong, why do NHA then allows it
and if I am wrong correct me and advise if that rule was changed.

I don't have a bone to pick with anybody it is just something I have noticed and was wondering has there been a rule change that I was unaware off.

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Re: Under the lap racing

9 years 10 months ago
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As far as I'm aware this has been around forever - and very hard to enforce if they don't know about it - and if the trainer / other partners keep mum, how will they know ?

I also think it comes back to cost as well - what do I get in return for not racing 'under the lap' ? :unsure: Basically the same question as to why should I join the RA - although I suppose the NHA would argue that they are the 'controllers' of the sport and that they charge colour holders in order to keep the 'riff-raff' out :unsure:

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Re: Under the lap racing

9 years 10 months ago
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Frodo wrote: As far as I'm aware this has been around forever - and very hard to enforce if they don't know about it - and if the trainer / other partners keep mum, how will they know ?

I also think it comes back to cost as well - what do I get in return for not racing 'under the lap' ? :unsure: Basically the same question as to why should I join the RA - although I suppose the NHA would argue that they are the 'controllers' of the sport and that they charge colour holders in order to keep the 'riff-raff' out :unsure:

I have heard trainers and owners say on TV that person so and so has ashare but that persons name don't appear in the racecard
I also would think if you have ashrein a horse you would like to have your name in the racecard

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Re: Under the lap racing

9 years 10 months ago
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The color of the stake money is the same whether your name is in the racecard or not - and some people prefer being out of the 'limelight' :ohmy:

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Re: Under the lap racing

9 years 10 months ago
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Quite right Frodo............... :lol:

Very similar to racing tipsters who don't register their business with the relevant authorities.... :evil:

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Re: Under the lap racing

9 years 10 months ago
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Countrymember wrote: Quite right Frodo............... :lol:

Very similar to racing tipsters who don't register their business with the relevant authorities.... :evil:

You mean I have to register somewhere :P

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Re: Under the lap racing

9 years 10 months ago
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You don't charge so its OK..............!!!!.

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Re: Under the lap racing

9 years 10 months ago - 9 years 10 months ago
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I got my very first share in a racehorse,before I had my colours( probably the best horse I ever owned ..lol)by virtue of someone owing me money and paid with the share. I remember clearly being around the parade ring when it returned to the winners box after a win and been warned to not start shouting about "my horse"...........certainly in those days,an objection by any other connection would have been successful.
I have often heard credit given to an owner , not mentioned in the racecard,in interviews,and wondered why no objection????.........it constitutes a confession after all! :S
I fairly sure certain rules have changed as , in the old days , every member of a syndicate had to be an individual colour holder........I don't think that is still the case!
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Re: Under the lap racing

9 years 10 months ago - 9 years 10 months ago
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What I fail to understand is that persons on this forum complains that the NHA is not enforcing their rules, now a person point out that a rule is not enforce it sounds to me that it is OK!
I was hoping for meaningful contributions but it seems to me that for some forum members it is not possible to make a meaningful contribution.
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Re: Under the lap racing

9 years 10 months ago
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Guys underlap racing gives rogues a chance to get back in the game, this is why the rule is in place
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Re: Under the lap racing

9 years 10 months ago
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Hell James, I'm not sure what you mean by 'meaningful' discussion :unsure: and nobody said that it was ok? Just that it is probably still happening and is very hard to stop ?

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Re: Under the lap racing

9 years 10 months ago
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Also dont understand what James is getting at,peoples opinions are always going to differ

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