Turffontein Tuesday 30 Dec

Mambonick/Tiger Touch Dbl

yankee with Spanish dawn and Bichett :evil:

pirates wrote: dollar dazzler for me ...made him a 15 to 10 favourite and will be taking the 4 to 1 on offer ..

I think its scratched.

Dean321 wrote:

pirates wrote: dollar dazzler for me ...made him a 15 to 10 favourite and will be taking the 4 to 1 on offer ..

I think its scratched.

Wonder whether that was real money for this horse earlier? Upset because this horse would have got rolled anyway.

For what it's worth, a mate gave me Tiger's Touch in the second, hear it's got ability. See it has shortened in the betting

RIVER EMPRESS is my strong place bet tonight - Might even be worth floating in the exacta - Debut run against colts was very good(good Formgids Green) - I'll put a line through the last run and add a few lengths with PS up.
UNPARALLELED for me but I see everybody wants to beat him.
MAMBONICK worth either banking in the exacta or floating if you feel you must. I think BABY ROCK might run into the money as the trainer did win an early race with a Seventh Rock Debutante last year(Captain Rock)
S`IL VOUS PLAIT should not miss a 4 place at 9/10 as he is a proper stayer(Savage Wind is upset material)
FLAME CAT for me danger VIRGO's Babe and Ha Lucy
DRIFTING DUSK
MAC DE LAGO could well be a big horse for the stable - Brings a strong green grid into the race. I will watch SUPERTUBE with interest as he was out of his depth against Graded Company last term - May need the run but has handicap ability

bayern wrote:

Dean321 wrote:

pirates wrote: dollar dazzler for me ...made him a 15 to 10 favourite and will be taking the 4 to 1 on offer ..

I think its scratched.

Wonder whether that was real money for this horse earlier? Upset because this horse would have got rolled anyway.

a clairvoyant of note ...the sooner we have betfair the better

Unparalleled is an interesting runner ....................if you believe the 112 rating then nothing else should matter!
The question is .........why 112 ..........based around Harry's Son??.......discussed at length on other thread.
I am not sure any body can say for sure yet,but the computaform comment on the last run "unbelievable" says something ..............you have to be wary of a horse running fairly consistently ,at an above average rating of between 86 and 92,suddenly producing a 112 run.............sustainable...............I wish I knew!!!!!

I went through 6 horses trying to find the line horse/s and couldn't see anything that ran to rating...closest were Illumunati (5th...8 lengths behind) and Raise the Red (7th...11,75 lengths behind and even they ran below rating...horses rated 86 (Unparalleled) and 83 (French Navy) ran well above rating or a few horses ran well below rating and I think the going had something to do with this...posted as good but there was rain on the day such that at the time of race it could have been slightly soft...

French Navy now a 101 but just beat Rushmore River (rated 83 and has run to +-2 points of this rating enough times to validate the rating and make it the line horse in that race...shows how poorly Rake's Chestnut ran in that race !!) in receipt of 4 kgs (WFA was 7 kgs at the time so performed 3 kgs better than WFA) making the run by French Navy +-90...

So, French Navy rated 83 before Dingaans, rated 101 after Dingaans and runs to 90 about 2 weeks after Dingaans...I think low to max mid 90's is proper rating so about 5-10 points too high currently...and rating for Unparalleled can be determined through that ...102 to 106...

Max The Man

Hoping for the 14

Lady Eleanor...places

bayern wrote: For what it's worth, a mate gave me Tiger's Touch in the second, hear it's got ability. See it has shortened in the betting

will definitely come on from that run...