Sorry to say this but...

SA President Mbiki is an idiot. He says that there is no crisis in Zimbabwe..is he not the same person who said that you cannot contract AIDS from been HIV positive. And I thought Blair was a nob head.

Mori sorry to say but this is the man who took over from the great Mandela, and he has done the square root of nothing since placed in power imvho.

He travels the world and wants to solve their problems, but what has he done here?Been out of country more than in!

Morilihochili sorry to say but you are right.

Yup educated peanut

Saw Carte Blanche?
The last part where Bobejaan Mugabe said that Brown is a small..........
Wasn't it Mbeki (voice in background) laughing at his remark. Something fishy going on.

Cant wait for this mother f....er to get chucked out with his brave war veterans,they will get a hiding of note as im sure that the MDC boys are going to have sweet sweet revenge.

Mugabe regime is in many ways not dissimilar to the Phumelela regime.

Mugabe took over an unacceptable situation, ie minority rule.

Phumelela took over when casino's etc threatened our industry (still dont buy it).

Both have stripped away the assets belonging to the people, have become elitists catering only for their and their cohorts interests and control the media.

Mugabe propped up by Mbeki's policy of silent diplomacy and Phumelela propped up by the RA Board(s) and its policy of "united we stand, divided we fall".

Gold Circle beware !

One thing Mbeki and his lick-spittles have managed to accomplish is to make themselves wealthy, at the expense of the largely gullible electorate.

Mbeck and Mug-aap, seen walking hand -in-hand, blood bunnies!!

The democratisation of South Africa led by Madiba was the greatest event.

The electorate will vote for the liberators and rightly so.

What a pity that with control comes abuse of power.

Our beautiful land cries out for a martyr, a patriot, a leader.

The similarities between the Zimbabwe situation and what could potentially happen in SA going forward are quite startling in my opinion.They are far too numerous to mention in a single thread,but here are just a few:

1)The majority of blacks are ruled by a minority of whites.The whites get overthrown and the 'war veterans' come to power.By virtue of the fact that they fought the struggle they are 'entitled' to come to power.These few then enrich themselves.

2)Those in charge do not listen to popular world opinion.What does the rest of the world know,they are only 1st world countries and do not appreciate african history and custom.The imperialists simply want our minerals(which is true to some degree actually),so we 3rd world countries simply cannot take their advice.

3)The 'popular' vote ie:the poor who are the masses and actually vote the ruling party into power,become dissatisfied as time passes and they realize that they are in fact only marginally better off than they were previously.And here is where I see the major problem for SA going forward.Clearly COSATU,which previously was obviously hugely pro ANC,has slowly but surely come to realize that those in power here are merely on the self-enrichment band wagon.The dissatisfaction is starting to build to a crescendo,and for us to believe that land grabs are simply not going to happen here is naive imo.The black on white land grab is easily justified,just as in Zimbabwe,so it's hardly a far fetched scenario.

4)What SA will eventually get is 2nd 'black party' as opposition to the ANC,just as the MDC has grown our of dissatisfaction with ZANU's,and this is most likely to be formed by COSATU and the SACP imo.And where does that leave SA down the line?As a socialist state in a world where socialism has clearly not worked?

It's easy to paint a gloomy scenario for this country,but based on african history the doom and gloom scenario is far more easily reached than the 'high road' scenario.The 'high road' requires those in charge to make self-sacrifices,but both Mbeki's attitude and the fact that Zuma is the likely next president of this country hardly inspires a positive outlook.

SA is but a foetus in terms of it's maturity,so it is understandable that there are problems here,but if the foetus is not fed and nutured properly it's going to turn into an ugly adult!