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Mark Watters
11 years 4 days ago
Mark Watters's warning off was rescinded 17 years ago and he decided not to go back into racehorse training. For 16 years he has owned a national company, Elite Fibre. At present he is semi retired and lives in Langebaan where he owns as 44ft yacht and a 30ft powerboat. I believe he is a wealthy man today and he still is very popular with the ladies.
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Re: Re: Mark Watters
11 years 4 days ago
I remember this trainer. Did he train Aquanaut by any chance. I think Gavin Howes was his stable jockey. This other horse Steaming Jungle rings a bell, don't know if he trained that sprinter as well.
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Re: Re: Mark Watters
11 years 4 days ago
welcome CT, i thought Mark was a piece of shit that bumped people out of money...
Do you know Benbow Hebbert?
Do you know Benbow Hebbert?
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Re: Re: Mark Watters
11 years 3 days ago
naresh Wrote:
> I remember this trainer. Did he train Aquanaut by
> any chance. I think Gavin Howes was his stable
> jockey. This other horse Steaming Jungle rings a
> bell, don't know if he trained that sprinter as
> well.
he trained aquanaut but steaming jungle im sure mr millard trained that
> I remember this trainer. Did he train Aquanaut by
> any chance. I think Gavin Howes was his stable
> jockey. This other horse Steaming Jungle rings a
> bell, don't know if he trained that sprinter as
> well.
he trained aquanaut but steaming jungle im sure mr millard trained that
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Re: Re: Mark Watters
11 years 3 days ago
Seriously impressed about the knowledge some people possess about South African racing personalities and politics from the 80's and 90's
Never realised the sporting post was distributed in Scotland circa 1989
Never realised the sporting post was distributed in Scotland circa 1989
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Re: Re: Mark Watters
11 years 3 days ago
harry hotspur Wrote:
> naresh Wrote:
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> > I remember this trainer. Did he train Aquanaut
> by
> > any chance. I think Gavin Howes was his stable
> > jockey. This other horse Steaming Jungle rings
> a
> > bell, don't know if he trained that sprinter as
> > well.
>
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> he trained aquanaut but steaming jungle im sure mr
> millard trained that
Steaming Jungle definitely Terrence Millard...................beat our horse in the Smirnoff Plate!!!
> naresh Wrote:
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> > I remember this trainer. Did he train Aquanaut
> by
> > any chance. I think Gavin Howes was his stable
> > jockey. This other horse Steaming Jungle rings
> a
> > bell, don't know if he trained that sprinter as
> > well.
>
>
> he trained aquanaut but steaming jungle im sure mr
> millard trained that
Steaming Jungle definitely Terrence Millard...................beat our horse in the Smirnoff Plate!!!
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Re: Re: Mark Watters
11 years 3 days ago
in fact mark trained corning touch as well ,im sure aquanaut raced in pink and bue colours and that same owner went to mike bass later on and was involved in tobeornotobe
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Re: Re: Mark Watters
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rob faux Wrote:
> harry hotspur Wrote:
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> > naresh Wrote:
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> > > I remember this trainer. Did he train
> Aquanaut
> > by
> > > any chance. I think Gavin Howes was his
> stable
> > > jockey. This other horse Steaming Jungle
> rings
> > a
> > > bell, don't know if he trained that sprinter
> as
> > > well.
> >
> >
> > he trained aquanaut but steaming jungle im sure
> mr
> > millard trained that
>
> Steaming Jungle definitely Terrence
> Millard...................beat our horse in the
> Smirnoff Plate!!!
Correct Steaming Jungle was trained by Terrence Millard but for some reason I associated it with Mark Watters. Blame it on my young age around 1989 that was but after much googling I found this,
Mount Mana het goeie wenkans, maar moet pasop vir Deep Lustre
FOTO: S/W HET VERSKYN (MARK WATTERS ) Deur Harry Shaw DIE vierjarige merrievul Mount Mana tref die oog in die Sprint Handicap (B-afdeling), oor 1 200 m vandag op Milnerton. Net vyf perde is in dié hoofwedren in aksie, waaronder Steaming Jungle en Deep Lustre uit die stal van Mark Watters. Te oordeel na hul jongste vertonings behoort dié drie inderdaad sake uit te spook. Die blouskimmel-reun So Rich, wat die afgelope Saterdag oor 1 200 m in aksie was, kan dalk tussenbeide kom. Mount Mana was gister die vroeë gunsteling teen 1-1, met Steaming Jungle die naasgunsteling teen 2-1 en sy stalmaat (Deep Lustre) volgende teen 5-2. Dié merrievul het in haar afgelope vyf wedrenne, waarvan die laaste vier hoofwedrenne was, elke keer derde geëindig. Sy het kragte gemeet met sulke puik naellopers soos Simonside, die opkomende jong ster Rastaz en die swart blits Thunder Cat. Haar nederlae teen dié perde was nooit groot nie - onderskeidelik slegs 11/2 lengte (teen Exclusive Cane), 11/4 lengte (teen Simonside), 21/4 lengtes en 1 lengte (teen Rastaz) en 3 lengtes (teen Thunder Cat). Teen vandag se swakker teenstand moet sy ongetwyfeld 'n goeie wenkans gegee word. Deep Lustre Deep Lustre dra 1,5 kg ligter as Mount Mana, wat hom met ongeveer 'n lengte bevoordeel. As sy lopie in die Topsport Bloodline Guineas, wat te ver vir hom was, uitgesluit word, het hy in der waarheid in die laaste tyd heel goeie vertonings gelewer. Hy het byvoorbeeld 'n naelloop teen Argold gewen, en was in die Basil Starke Stakes derde, slegs 11/4 lengte agter die wenner, Dunbarton, wat self 'n bogemiddelde perd is. In sy laaste wedren, ook in dié afdeling en vandag se afstand, was hy 'n kortkop agter die wenner (Explosive Magic). As al dié gegewe in aanmerking geneem word, het Deep Lustre inderdaad 'n goeie kans om die gunsteling te troef en moet hy as die gevaar vir Mount Mana beskou word. Te oordeel na die wedsyfers lyk dit of daar ook 'n sterk saak vir Steaming Jungle uitgemaak kan word. Dié vierjarige reun se ster het eens helder geskitter. Dit was in die dae toe hy nog in die stal van Terrance Millard was en as tweejarige die Smirnoff, voorste wedren vir tweejariges, gewen het. Hy het toe probleme ontwikkel en is eers na Bert Abercrombie se stal oorgeplaas en daarna na Darryl Hodgson, vir wie hy 'n puik oorwinning behaal het. Dié oorwinning presies 'n maand gelede, toe hy 59 kg op sy rug gehad het, was baie indrukwekkend. Maar dit was in die C-afdeling. Hy is skaars twee weke gelede na Mark Watters se stal oorgeplaas. So Rich het die afgelope Saterdag 'n middelmatige vertoning gelewer. Dit was in die A-afdeling en oor 1 200 m, terwyl hy die korter naelloop sou verkies. Die ander deelnemer, Armani, het 'n maand gelede aan sy eerste wedren in meer as agttien maande deelgeneem en kan nie aanbeveel word nie. Ter opsomming: Mount Mana is my wenkeuse, maar veiligheidshalwe kan die Watters-koppeling ook vir die Woekerpot en die Kies 6 oorweeg word. Thunderdrome Daar is vandag net sewe wedrenne op die program. Die eerste wedren is dus die eerste been van die Plekpot. Die hingsvul Thunderdrome het drie weke gelede 'n goeie wedrendebuut gemaak toe hy derde agter die belowende Klaserie geëindig het. Hy lyk na 'n potensiële wenner, of minstens 'n anker vir die Plekpot. Hoewel daar geen seker wenner in die res van die program is nie, tref die volgende perde die oog: Basra, Proud Index en Proud Leader in die tweede wedren; Chiara, Lady Wallis (gekoppel met Josey Wood), Dancing Flower en Thought Through in die derde wedren; Damascus Steel, Subhah, La Fair en die Mark Watters-koppeling van King Of The Cane en Bullet Proof in die vierde wedren; en Sabi Sands, Night Warrior en Gold Cascade in die sesde wedren.
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> harry hotspur Wrote:
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> > naresh Wrote:
> >
>
>
> >
> > > I remember this trainer. Did he train
> Aquanaut
> > by
> > > any chance. I think Gavin Howes was his
> stable
> > > jockey. This other horse Steaming Jungle
> rings
> > a
> > > bell, don't know if he trained that sprinter
> as
> > > well.
> >
> >
> > he trained aquanaut but steaming jungle im sure
> mr
> > millard trained that
>
> Steaming Jungle definitely Terrence
> Millard...................beat our horse in the
> Smirnoff Plate!!!
Correct Steaming Jungle was trained by Terrence Millard but for some reason I associated it with Mark Watters. Blame it on my young age around 1989 that was but after much googling I found this,
Mount Mana het goeie wenkans, maar moet pasop vir Deep Lustre
FOTO: S/W HET VERSKYN (MARK WATTERS ) Deur Harry Shaw DIE vierjarige merrievul Mount Mana tref die oog in die Sprint Handicap (B-afdeling), oor 1 200 m vandag op Milnerton. Net vyf perde is in dié hoofwedren in aksie, waaronder Steaming Jungle en Deep Lustre uit die stal van Mark Watters. Te oordeel na hul jongste vertonings behoort dié drie inderdaad sake uit te spook. Die blouskimmel-reun So Rich, wat die afgelope Saterdag oor 1 200 m in aksie was, kan dalk tussenbeide kom. Mount Mana was gister die vroeë gunsteling teen 1-1, met Steaming Jungle die naasgunsteling teen 2-1 en sy stalmaat (Deep Lustre) volgende teen 5-2. Dié merrievul het in haar afgelope vyf wedrenne, waarvan die laaste vier hoofwedrenne was, elke keer derde geëindig. Sy het kragte gemeet met sulke puik naellopers soos Simonside, die opkomende jong ster Rastaz en die swart blits Thunder Cat. Haar nederlae teen dié perde was nooit groot nie - onderskeidelik slegs 11/2 lengte (teen Exclusive Cane), 11/4 lengte (teen Simonside), 21/4 lengtes en 1 lengte (teen Rastaz) en 3 lengtes (teen Thunder Cat). Teen vandag se swakker teenstand moet sy ongetwyfeld 'n goeie wenkans gegee word. Deep Lustre Deep Lustre dra 1,5 kg ligter as Mount Mana, wat hom met ongeveer 'n lengte bevoordeel. As sy lopie in die Topsport Bloodline Guineas, wat te ver vir hom was, uitgesluit word, het hy in der waarheid in die laaste tyd heel goeie vertonings gelewer. Hy het byvoorbeeld 'n naelloop teen Argold gewen, en was in die Basil Starke Stakes derde, slegs 11/4 lengte agter die wenner, Dunbarton, wat self 'n bogemiddelde perd is. In sy laaste wedren, ook in dié afdeling en vandag se afstand, was hy 'n kortkop agter die wenner (Explosive Magic). As al dié gegewe in aanmerking geneem word, het Deep Lustre inderdaad 'n goeie kans om die gunsteling te troef en moet hy as die gevaar vir Mount Mana beskou word. Te oordeel na die wedsyfers lyk dit of daar ook 'n sterk saak vir Steaming Jungle uitgemaak kan word. Dié vierjarige reun se ster het eens helder geskitter. Dit was in die dae toe hy nog in die stal van Terrance Millard was en as tweejarige die Smirnoff, voorste wedren vir tweejariges, gewen het. Hy het toe probleme ontwikkel en is eers na Bert Abercrombie se stal oorgeplaas en daarna na Darryl Hodgson, vir wie hy 'n puik oorwinning behaal het. Dié oorwinning presies 'n maand gelede, toe hy 59 kg op sy rug gehad het, was baie indrukwekkend. Maar dit was in die C-afdeling. Hy is skaars twee weke gelede na Mark Watters se stal oorgeplaas. So Rich het die afgelope Saterdag 'n middelmatige vertoning gelewer. Dit was in die A-afdeling en oor 1 200 m, terwyl hy die korter naelloop sou verkies. Die ander deelnemer, Armani, het 'n maand gelede aan sy eerste wedren in meer as agttien maande deelgeneem en kan nie aanbeveel word nie. Ter opsomming: Mount Mana is my wenkeuse, maar veiligheidshalwe kan die Watters-koppeling ook vir die Woekerpot en die Kies 6 oorweeg word. Thunderdrome Daar is vandag net sewe wedrenne op die program. Die eerste wedren is dus die eerste been van die Plekpot. Die hingsvul Thunderdrome het drie weke gelede 'n goeie wedrendebuut gemaak toe hy derde agter die belowende Klaserie geëindig het. Hy lyk na 'n potensiële wenner, of minstens 'n anker vir die Plekpot. Hoewel daar geen seker wenner in die res van die program is nie, tref die volgende perde die oog: Basra, Proud Index en Proud Leader in die tweede wedren; Chiara, Lady Wallis (gekoppel met Josey Wood), Dancing Flower en Thought Through in die derde wedren; Damascus Steel, Subhah, La Fair en die Mark Watters-koppeling van King Of The Cane en Bullet Proof in die vierde wedren; en Sabi Sands, Night Warrior en Gold Cascade in die sesde wedren.
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Re: Re: Mark Watters
11 years 3 days ago
Wow, Mark Waters, Howes, Benbow-Hebbert, Phelps. What a blast from the past.
Mark was more than a decent trainer and he enjoyed playing the game if not playing games lol. I remember distinctly that the bloke had plenty of hat-trick meetings, so much so that if he had a winner early in the day you best look for the rest. He never really struck me as a particularly horsey sort of trainer, but he had a knack of landing nice types and getting them to win. Gave Mark Khan a big break too. Nice to hear he came well.
Mark was more than a decent trainer and he enjoyed playing the game if not playing games lol. I remember distinctly that the bloke had plenty of hat-trick meetings, so much so that if he had a winner early in the day you best look for the rest. He never really struck me as a particularly horsey sort of trainer, but he had a knack of landing nice types and getting them to win. Gave Mark Khan a big break too. Nice to hear he came well.
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