JACKADORE.........There should be an investigation into...................

louisg Wrote:

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> Threads like these really make ABC unpleasant for
> me, simply because of the absolute stupidity of
> some rocket scientists who post here. The facts
> are irrelevant. The hysteria and the need to find
> someone guilty when a favourite loses is far more
> important than looking at the basics, using common
> sense and simple facts.
>
> 1)for the record, I had a treble on the day, which
> I can substantiate - Across the Ice onto Trip
> Tease onto Jackodore. I am as dissappointed with
> Jackodore's run as anyone. I accept that there is
> no such thing as a racing certainty.......
> 2)The facts as I see them
> 2.1 Jackodore was not striding off fore. Thats
> the leading leg around the turn.
> 2.2 When the leading leg is short you arent going
> to have pace from the start, as it is a short run
> tonthe turn.
> 2.3 When a horse is lame, it will not run to its
> true potential.
> 2.4 When Jackodore has run on the turf, she has
> been scratchy, feeling her legs. 3 runs back, she
> was riden by Richard Fourie on the Turff Inner
> course. When she went to the start, I immediately
> picked up on TT that she was not happy. We won the
> race with Moggytwoshoes. This was on thursday 20th
> March. A few days later, on Tuesday 25th March, we
> bumped her again with Negev, but on Vaal Sand. I
> specifically watched her go down, because of what
> I had seen a few days back. Amazingly, she went
> down perfectly. We ran second...
> 2.5 Her next run was on the Turff. She went down
> scratchy and ran accordingly. Striker was up and
> he obviously felt this and true to form, he
> advised caution, because of this soundness
> concern.
>
> So, now Striker is a crook and pulled the horse
> up.
>
> So, what do you want, then?
> After 4900 winners do want dumb comments from
> Striker? Where are all the punters that praise
> his riding? Where are the posters here, who
> praise him for not abusing the whip, for his
> kindness to horses? Are they now mute? What did
> you want him to do in the race? Beat the hell out
> of the horse who is in trouble, just to please
> you, to " look good" ? Well, get stuffed, because
> he wont do that to any horse.
>
> Striker aggravates me, often, with his very rigid
> and straight approach and talk. But, he has earned
> my respect over and over again, due to his
> consistency. And he will not stop telling the
> truth, as he sees it.
>
> Did any of you clowns not stop, just once, to
> think that by advising you about his chances, he
> actually cares about you doing your money in cold
> blood. Just remember that the only time he knows
> for sure that a horse is not striding on the day,
> is on the way to the start or in the race. Before
> that, he is speculating, but his vast experience
> lets him know the difference between a slight
> niggle and something more serious, which he felt
> the time before. After that, it is up to the
> Trainer to treat or to scratch etc.

Well said Louis! What do they think, Striker does not want to ride winners or what?

well said Louis- big zap to all the idiots who talk from their pockets - Striker is a brilliant and honest jockey - we love u striker - couch potatoes make me sick the way they talk sometimes - no we hope striker is bigger than these cakes and he will still guide the public. We do appreciate your insight and opinion.

possible solution for internet users, Formgrids places a entry point for jockey and trainer to type quick two liner per runner, the standard ''nothing to report'' already there so just one click and not too much typing to do report for pre and post comment on racecard and result page on formgrids, Nhra makes it rule that it must be done, punters ect get valuable info, but then again why bother to try do new and correct things for an industry that dont give a damm or support

mister a Wrote:

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> possible solution for internet users, Formgrids
> places a entry point for jockey and trainer to
> type quick two liner per runner, the standard
> ''nothing to report'' already there so just one
> click and not too much typing to do report for
> pre and post comment on racecard and result page
> on formgrids, Nhra makes it rule that it must be
> done, punters ect get valuable info, but then
> again why bother to try do new and correct things
> for an industry that dont give a damm or support

...definitely the way to go...(tu)

www.sportingpost.co.za/2014/04/piere-str...crooks-says-striker/

Piere also confirmed that while he had been approached, he was not involved in any tipping services currently and that if anybody was paying for any information allegedly provided in his name, they were ‘being handled.’

hibernia Wrote:

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> Piere also confirmed that while he had been
> approached, he was not involved in any tipping
> services currently and that if anybody was paying
> for any information allegedly provided in his
> name, they were ‘being handled.’

Just to alleviate any misconceptions ~ www.mystable.info/striker-interviews/

Stop Press...............................Late final on this episode.

Respected Tipster Jack Milner wrote in his preview on the Tabonline website.........................

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" The Queen of the Sand also looks a two horse race with one unknown factor.

Jackodore has been supreme on the sand of late and in her last start destroyed a similar field over 1450mts. Formation ran over 4 lengths back but could get closer over the extra 150 mts.THE BALANCE OF THE OPPOSITION LOOK WELL HELD."

And then, Mike, sometimes a horse is just not sound come racetime, maybe worse than normal, probably not quantified before. Jack had to write his column beforehand. You obviously backed Jackodore. So you and Jack are in the same boat.... As myself and many others.

Point is that it can and does happen, that a horse is feeling something. Its a fact of racing, worldwide. On form, I agree with Jack....and so did you.

mister a Wrote:

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> possible solution for internet users, Formgrids
> places a entry point for jockey and trainer to
> type quick two liner per runner, the standard
> ''nothing to report'' already there so just one
> click and not too much typing to do report for
> pre and post comment on racecard and result page
> on formgrids, Nhra makes it rule that it must be
> done, punters ect get valuable info, but then
> again why bother to try do new and correct things
> for an industry that dont give a damm or support

Are there any trainers and jockeys that will be making use of this tool in the immediate future............................:S

A lot of them are regular uses of Formgrids, one would assume, and it could give tipsters and punters valuable info as Mr.A. puts it.

jockeys and trainers use Formgrids all the time, we have over 800 SA users every day

when horses are entered into a race the public are encouraged and invited to place a bet on the outcome of the race and we can only use the tote or bookmakers by law, then the race becomes public and the public should have the the right to the same information that the stable and the jockey have,

im not saying for one minute that we want stable OPINIONS from the trainer or jockey as to where they think the horse will finish, but how can we be expected to bet on horses in races when we have no info on their prep or quirks, or ills, etc, this is one of the reasons the game is dwindling and punters are migrating to other forms of gaming,

the owner races for STAKES which betting pools filled by the betting public contribute to, so just give the public the obvious little bits like Pierre gave the public on JACKADORE, to me that is a must, and i commend him for the courage he showed by parting with that valuable piece of infomation, putting himself in the line of fire, some times the info will backfire and we must accept it and not see spooks or go on witch hunts ,,

Strydom, Charlie Laird and a few others do their best to guide punters and this should be built upon, and Formgrids is a tool for the man that wants to go deeper into being informed, so with industry co-operation Formgrids can add a coloumn for jockey/trainer/offical handicapper comments, we can make it easy for the comments to be uploaded using pre selected already typed comments that need just one click, but we need industry co-operation to get it working right, and co-operation is exactly what i dont get when i try get the ''bosses of racing'' to build on what i have started with ''FORMGRIDS'',,, i get told i must turn my gift to racing into a business and charge the punters coz the bosses arent willing to put one cent into Formgrids

if i wanted to make money out of racing i would have kept Formgrids to myself and just punted, ask the 13 or so Bruma bookmakers who faced us in the mid nineties before i walked away from the game, we were winning close to 2m per bet,,, in the end we had to let bookies change amounts on winning tickets after the race in order for them to be able to settle us, ask around if you doubt this,,,, i started the SA racegoers association in the 80's after the Gyros fiasco and fought for punters rights for many years and after the handling of the Flaming gun incident in the mid 90's i realised and accepted that things were never going to change, racing was not run correctly to cater for the real professional player so i got out cause bad calls by the authorities were getting to me,,,

by the way Citizen racing reporter and commentator Peter Duffield and myself on SABC's tv NETWORK program which aired after the never missed 8 oclock predicted the slump which hit racing and we were correct ,,,, they reason i gave Formgrids to the industry was to help revive racing,,,