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Interesting Reading

11 years 4 months ago
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International Federation of Horseracing Authorities

46TH ANNUAL INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE 2012


International Race Planning Advisory
Committee (IRPAC)
By Mr Carl Hamilton, Chairman

Committee for Harmonisation of Raceday
Rules (IRPAC)
By Mr Rob DeKock, Chairman


to make recommendations to competent authorities for improvements in laws and regulations
directly or indirectly affecting the racing industry

Harmonization of rules

Mr DeKock gave an overview of the committee
and progress made in Japan and other ARF
countries. Additionally, it was noted that the
United States is trending in Graded races to not
demote a winner unless the interference is serious and that this was being well received by
the racing public. Lastly, it was noted that Great Britain and
Ireland changed their rule so that the number 1
stall is now positioned on the inside rail, similar
to other member countries. Also, both countries
implemented a rule whereby a horse impeded
due to barrier stall malfunction or by a handler
at the stall can be declared a non-runner

ive been branded as racings enemy from 1986 fighting for this and more
, we stopped a racemeeting after the running of race 4 insisting on a horse being declared a non runner and the public being refunded
, now all these years later racing authorities are coming into line with the correct thinking that the racing public count
, so am i still racings enemy or were our controlling body the enemy all the time

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11 years 4 months ago
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I support this one - Like I think in Korea bets are refunded if a horse is euthenaised

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Well now the British and Irish jockey clubs have amended their rules in order to give the racegoer fair play, this alone is an admittance that the racing public had been unfairly treated by the horse being a runner and player doing their stake in cold blood,

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Prize money in 2012

Average prize
money per race
(in Euros)

HONG KONG 110,947 €

UAE 103,865 €

KOREA 60,772 €

JAPAN 45,851 €

these are the first four highest then futher down is

SA 7,400 €

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mister a Wrote:
> International Federation of Horseracing
> Authorities
>
> 46TH ANNUAL INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE 2012
>
>
> International Race Planning Advisory
> Committee (IRPAC)
> By Mr Carl Hamilton, Chairman
>
> Committee for Harmonisation of Raceday
> Rules (IRPAC)
> By Mr Rob DeKock, Chairman
>
>
> to make recommendations to competent authorities
> for improvements in laws and regulations
> directly or indirectly affecting the racing
> industry
>
> Harmonization of rules
>
> Mr DeKock gave an overview of the committee
> and progress made in Japan and other ARF
> countries. Additionally, it was noted that the
> United States is trending in Graded races to not
> demote a winner unless the interference is serious
> and that this was being well received by
> the racing public. Lastly, it was noted that Great
> Britain and
> Ireland changed their rule so that the number 1
> stall is now positioned on the inside rail,
> similar
> to other member countries. Also, both countries
> implemented a rule whereby a horse impeded
> due to barrier stall malfunction or by a handler
> at the stall can be declared a non-runner
>
> ive been branded as racings enemy from 1986
> fighting for this and more, we stopped a
> racemeeting after the running of race 4 insisting
> on a horse being declared a non runner and the
> public being refunded, now all these years later
> racing authorities are coming into line with the
> correct thinking that the racing public count, so
> am i still racings enemy or were our controlling
> body the enemy all the time

We've gone over this countless times before. In SA the horse is declared a non-runner unless it finishes in the first four. The argument against it is what happened at Clairwood but the argument for it is in the case where you have a July runner that gets impeded but still finishes second - the owner would then obviously like the result to stand.

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Tipster Wrote:
> mister a Wrote:
>
>
> > International Federation of Horseracing
> > Authorities
> >
> > 46TH ANNUAL INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE 2012
> >
> >
> > International Race Planning Advisory
> > Committee (IRPAC)
> > By Mr Carl Hamilton, Chairman
> >
> > Committee for Harmonisation of Raceday
> > Rules (IRPAC)
> > By Mr Rob DeKock, Chairman
> >
> >
> > to make recommendations to competent
> authorities
> > for improvements in laws and regulations
> > directly or indirectly affecting the racing
> > industry
> >
> > Harmonization of rules
> >
> > Mr DeKock gave an overview of the committee
> > and progress made in Japan and other ARF
> > countries. Additionally, it was noted that the
> > United States is trending in Graded races to
> not
> > demote a winner unless the interference is
> serious
> > and that this was being well received by
> > the racing public. Lastly, it was noted that
> Great
> > Britain and
> > Ireland changed their rule so that the number 1
> > stall is now positioned on the inside rail,
> > similar
> > to other member countries. Also, both countries
> > implemented a rule whereby a horse impeded
> > due to barrier stall malfunction or by a
> handler
> > at the stall can be declared a non-runner
> >
> > ive been branded as racings enemy from 1986
> > fighting for this and more, we stopped a
> > racemeeting after the running of race 4
> insisting
> > on a horse being declared a non runner and the
> > public being refunded, now all these years
> later
> > racing authorities are coming into line with
> the
> > correct thinking that the racing public count,
> so
> > am i still racings enemy or were our
> controlling
> > body the enemy all the time
>
> We've gone over this countless times before. In SA
> the horse is declared a non-runner unless it
> finishes in the first four. The argument against
> it is what happened at Clairwood but the argument
> for it is in the case where you have a July runner
> that gets impeded but still finishes second - the
> owner would then obviously like the result to
> stand.


the wording is "CAN'' be declared a non runner'',,, years gone by this was not the case, horses were simply disqualified and the punter lost his money in cold, which may not seem like a big deal for the R20 or the few hundred rand punter but was a big deal for the professional punter that had 0000's hanging in the balance of the rule, this is why we as punters protested, we got branded as bad for the game, because we took action and dared to protest, there are still ''bosses'' around today that are holding grudges incorrectly, time and the rule changes have proved that we were right and that the rules were wrong, now there is hardly any racing press in SA to highlight these things and i know ABC is well read by the industry bosses and so thats why im highlighting it here,

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Re: Re: Interesting Reading

11 years 4 months ago
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mr tipster the millions that get taken from punters by the means of rounding off fractions and unclaimed tickets can be used to payout any horses that earn stake money but are disqualified for being impeded....there are solutions

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> mr tipster the millions that get taken from
> punters by the means of rounding off fractions and
> unclaimed tickets can be used to payout any horses
> that earn stake money but are disqualified for
> being impeded....there are solutions

10 out of 10 pirates, and the rest should be put away for projects whereby the punter or public benifits

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11 years 4 months ago
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mister a you will all ways be on the out side while the current bosses are in power. the reason is simple. they do no want the gravy to spill by people like you who can rock the boat. you no the only one. the lawyer guy i forget hes name is all ways saying some thing is one example he say many good thing but what chance he have. what about charl pretorius what chance he have to make the living? what about the guys on these forum. you all get tar with a big brush. why is these? is simple the boys no want to share the gravy is why jobs for pals and jobs to people who no have the right credential is given. simple as that re. i see these for years even be fore the phumelela come.

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once again spot on Flash, my opinion is they can ride the gravy train but they should just try do good meaningful things for the game as well and not block progress, Charl is a world class journalist and should be supported by the industry as he truly contributed, Brett and others are needed to keep them on their toes but they hate any kind of criticism coz they take it as personal attacks instead of seeing it as a constructive mechanism

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11 years 4 months ago
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they just insecure in their jobs thats why they cant front up as there are more qualified and better people out there...

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> they just insecure in their jobs thats why they
> cant front up as there are more qualified and
> better people out there...


Fresh meat = Popular Butcher

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