Vaal 2/2/14
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Re: Re: Vaal 2/2/14
11 years 4 months ago
Mr H, I may have read it wrong, as I only saw the Met once, live. Hill Fifty Four changed legs from the near fore to the off fore and then hung outwards. Anton did not take him there, but rather just went with him.
The Vaal Turf is domed as a surface, in a convex manner. Thats why they used to split into two groups in years gone by, before the division of the surface. So the golden rule nowadays is inside draws on inside track and outside draws on outside track. Van Wyk is one example of many hundreds. I would guess, though, at the two prime reasons for him doing this, by staying away from the field. The first could be that the horse would over race early and pull when next to company and the second could be that the horse would throw in the towel if challenged near the death by another horse.
As for instructions, I dont give them. The reason is because bad jocks cant follow them and dont have a plan b or c and good jocks dont need them, because they will adapt and ride the best race in the circumstances. I simply tell my riders about the horse's tendencies, preferences or quirks.
The Vaal Turf is domed as a surface, in a convex manner. Thats why they used to split into two groups in years gone by, before the division of the surface. So the golden rule nowadays is inside draws on inside track and outside draws on outside track. Van Wyk is one example of many hundreds. I would guess, though, at the two prime reasons for him doing this, by staying away from the field. The first could be that the horse would over race early and pull when next to company and the second could be that the horse would throw in the towel if challenged near the death by another horse.
As for instructions, I dont give them. The reason is because bad jocks cant follow them and dont have a plan b or c and good jocks dont need them, because they will adapt and ride the best race in the circumstances. I simply tell my riders about the horse's tendencies, preferences or quirks.
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Re: Re: Vaal 2/2/14
11 years 4 months ago
gentle rain here now, turning to fine drizzle...
Shepherds Song can be given another chance today over 6 furlong and he is drawn nicely. Maybe swinger with whatever Mr H likes... ? (he does find them) I will log in when on course and see what he likes...
Shepherds Song can be given another chance today over 6 furlong and he is drawn nicely. Maybe swinger with whatever Mr H likes... ? (he does find them) I will log in when on course and see what he likes...
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- mr hawaii
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Re: Re: Vaal 2/2/14
11 years 4 months ago
thanks Louis
Is UMGIYO scratched ? (Formgrids has it scratched but still a runner Tabgold and Tabonline)
Is UMGIYO scratched ? (Formgrids has it scratched but still a runner Tabgold and Tabonline)
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Re: Re: Vaal 2/2/14
11 years 4 months ago
Punter Wrote:
> Master Rivas in Race 2 = 28/1 :S
My exact thought - If Umgiyo is in fact scratched this horse will be in the first two and places are a must
> Master Rivas in Race 2 = 28/1 :S
My exact thought - If Umgiyo is in fact scratched this horse will be in the first two and places are a must
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Re: Re: Vaal 2/2/14
11 years 4 months ago
mr hawaii Wrote:
> thanks Louis
> Is UMGIYO scratched ? (Formgrids has it scratched
> but still a runner Tabgold and Tabonline)
Formgrids has amended - they may have scratched in error because of the Jockey change
> thanks Louis
> Is UMGIYO scratched ? (Formgrids has it scratched
> but still a runner Tabgold and Tabonline)
Formgrids has amended - they may have scratched in error because of the Jockey change
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Re: Re: Vaal 2/2/14
11 years 4 months ago
mr hawaii Wrote:
> Punter Wrote:
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> My exact thought - If Umgiyo is in fact scratched
> this horse will be in the first two and places are
> a must
Most definite to have a bet
> Punter Wrote:
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> > Master Rivas in Race 2 = 28/1 :S
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> My exact thought - If Umgiyo is in fact scratched
> this horse will be in the first two and places are
> a must
Most definite to have a bet
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Re: Re: Vaal 2/2/14
11 years 4 months ago
Punter Wrote:
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> Most definite to have a bet
Devin Little is a good young trainer that keeps his horses running consistently
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> Most definite to have a bet
Devin Little is a good young trainer that keeps his horses running consistently
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Re: Re: Vaal 2/2/14
11 years 4 months ago
patrone - for place/quartets
rakes chestnut - will love this extra nd make it 2 from 2 - swinger wth master rivas - big roughie deckies boy
tinseltown - drops in distance - places nd definite quartet
melting pot - hoping the extra suits
rakes chestnut - will love this extra nd make it 2 from 2 - swinger wth master rivas - big roughie deckies boy
tinseltown - drops in distance - places nd definite quartet
melting pot - hoping the extra suits
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Re: Re: Vaal 2/2/14
11 years 4 months ago
Race 1
Nice support for the well bred newcomer, african G should go well if not needing the run...- will swing with latino ice and anna galeria and latino ice
Race 2
Rakes chestnut was supported on debut and won like a really good thing..can easily run them ragged again..umyigo track debut and is now gelded..will challenge the favorite...master rivas , zanzibar man and deckie boy can also show
Race 3
Sugaree has decent form but draw might be taxing...bags of boodle showed on debut with some support and will run a big race from draw 1-lerena up....tinsletown and shirla look ready to win as well...bags of boodle for me
Race 4
Ziegles very poor runs at turf after a lot of support...stryker has stuck with her and that could mean something....maybe distance factor so will run huge race...tuscon dream can improve with blinker strike but has been quite average so far...may make a race of it...poppy fields my value...I will take the swinger with Z
Gotta go so others I like today
Baracah
Tommy gun
Lizzy grey
Lady muffet
Take care and play well
Nice support for the well bred newcomer, african G should go well if not needing the run...- will swing with latino ice and anna galeria and latino ice
Race 2
Rakes chestnut was supported on debut and won like a really good thing..can easily run them ragged again..umyigo track debut and is now gelded..will challenge the favorite...master rivas , zanzibar man and deckie boy can also show
Race 3
Sugaree has decent form but draw might be taxing...bags of boodle showed on debut with some support and will run a big race from draw 1-lerena up....tinsletown and shirla look ready to win as well...bags of boodle for me
Race 4
Ziegles very poor runs at turf after a lot of support...stryker has stuck with her and that could mean something....maybe distance factor so will run huge race...tuscon dream can improve with blinker strike but has been quite average so far...may make a race of it...poppy fields my value...I will take the swinger with Z
Gotta go so others I like today
Baracah
Tommy gun
Lizzy grey
Lady muffet
Take care and play well
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Re: Re: Vaal 2/2/14
11 years 4 months ago
VAAL TURF:
Best Bets: Felan(w)/ Zanzibar Man(p)/ Shirla(p)/ Poppy Field(p)/ Sil Vous Plait(w)= 66/1
Long Shots: Roman Express(28/1)/ Soukous(33/1)/ Lunar Destiny(50/1)/ Touch The Clouds(25/1)= Worth some small e/w bets
Jackpot: 1.2.5.12/ 1.8/ 2.3.4.7.8/ 1.2.3.4.5.6.9.10.11.13
Best Bets: Felan(w)/ Zanzibar Man(p)/ Shirla(p)/ Poppy Field(p)/ Sil Vous Plait(w)= 66/1
Long Shots: Roman Express(28/1)/ Soukous(33/1)/ Lunar Destiny(50/1)/ Touch The Clouds(25/1)= Worth some small e/w bets
Jackpot: 1.2.5.12/ 1.8/ 2.3.4.7.8/ 1.2.3.4.5.6.9.10.11.13
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