How many horses called SHAMAL
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How many horses called SHAMAL
11 years 4 months ago
This horse is shown as a 3 yr old 1st timer in the 2nd race today..................a horse with the same name and breeding(??) had 5 or 6 runs in 2008/2009 without winning a maiden.(actually won the 6th run!!!)
I wonder if the NHA could possibly sort this out...............mind you I guess not!
I have sent a mail to the NHA!
I wonder if the NHA could possibly sort this out...............mind you I guess not!

I have sent a mail to the NHA!
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Re: Re: How many horses called SHAMAL
11 years 4 months ago
According to Formgrids, a colt named Shamal (Medaaly by Missisippi Moon) won his maiden on 31 March 2009 (racing for Jess Kyraicou and Adv Maselle among others - trained by Ian Jayes) - indeed strange that 5 years later a filly has been allowed the same name :S
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Re: Re: How many horses called SHAMAL
11 years 4 months ago
Checked this horse on Formgrids.
Comes up as one horse, not two, a 3 year old running at the Vaal today that last ran in 2009, a few years before it was born.
www.formgrids.com/subscriber/fgHorseHist.aspx?hs=SHAMAL,ZA
Comes up as one horse, not two, a 3 year old running at the Vaal today that last ran in 2009, a few years before it was born.

www.formgrids.com/subscriber/fgHorseHist.aspx?hs=SHAMAL,ZA
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Re: Re: How many horses called SHAMAL
11 years 4 months ago
Frodo Wrote:
> According to Formgrids, a colt named Shamal
> (Medaaly by Missisippi Moon) won his maiden on 31
> March 2009 (racing for Jess Kyraicou and Adv
> Maselle among others - trained by Ian Jayes) -
> indeed strange that 5 years later a filly has been
> allowed the same name :S
Formgrids also has this 3 yr old with those runs I mention (and confirmed by FORMSTAR.) so something is a mix up here!
(response to Frodo ,before seeing Sabre's response)
> According to Formgrids, a colt named Shamal
> (Medaaly by Missisippi Moon) won his maiden on 31
> March 2009 (racing for Jess Kyraicou and Adv
> Maselle among others - trained by Ian Jayes) -
> indeed strange that 5 years later a filly has been
> allowed the same name :S
Formgrids also has this 3 yr old with those runs I mention (and confirmed by FORMSTAR.) so something is a mix up here!
(response to Frodo ,before seeing Sabre's response)
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Re: Re: How many horses called SHAMAL
11 years 4 months ago
Breeding is different to what Frodo found: A P Arrow - Mafaatin (Fahal).
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Re: Re: How many horses called SHAMAL
11 years 4 months ago
Sabre Wrote:
> Breeding is different to what Frodo found: A P
> Arrow - Mafaatin (Fahal).
........but the same as todays runner...........lol
> Breeding is different to what Frodo found: A P
> Arrow - Mafaatin (Fahal).
........but the same as todays runner...........lol
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Re: Re: How many horses called SHAMAL
11 years 4 months ago
rob faux Wrote:
> Sabre Wrote:
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> > Breeding is different to what Frodo found: A P
> > Arrow - Mafaatin (Fahal).
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> ........but the same as todays
> runner...........lol
:S The horse that race in 2009 was by Medaaly, the one today is by AP Arrow
> Sabre Wrote:
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> > Breeding is different to what Frodo found: A P
> > Arrow - Mafaatin (Fahal).
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> ........but the same as todays
> runner...........lol
:S The horse that race in 2009 was by Medaaly, the one today is by AP Arrow
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Re: Re: How many horses called SHAMAL
11 years 4 months ago
Frodo Wrote:
> rob faux Wrote:
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> > Sabre Wrote:
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> > > Breeding is different to what Frodo found: A
> P
> > > Arrow - Mafaatin (Fahal).
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> > ........but the same as todays
> > runner...........lol
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> :S The horse that race in 2009 was by Medaaly, the
> one today is by AP Arrow
Frodo ,go to Formgrids and enter the name Shamal in "horse search"................what comes up??
(Sabre and I got the same response)
> rob faux Wrote:
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> > Sabre Wrote:
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> > > Breeding is different to what Frodo found: A
> P
> > > Arrow - Mafaatin (Fahal).
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> > ........but the same as todays
> > runner...........lol
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> :S The horse that race in 2009 was by Medaaly, the
> one today is by AP Arrow
Frodo ,go to Formgrids and enter the name Shamal in "horse search"................what comes up??
(Sabre and I got the same response)
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Re: Re: How many horses called SHAMAL
11 years 4 months ago
But if you go to today's race - you will see that Shamal is shown to have run previously - and if you then go to any of those runs, and 'hover' your cursor over 'Shamal', you will see the details - including the breeding shown as by Medaaly out of Mississippi Moon
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Re: Re: How many horses called SHAMAL
11 years 4 months ago
Frodo Wrote:
> But if you go to today's race - you will see that
> Shamal is shown to have run previously - and if
> you then go to any of those runs, and 'hover' your
> cursor over 'Shamal', you will see the details -
> including the breeding shown as by Medaaly out of
> Mississippi Moon
OK :S so it's even more and more of a mix up!
(Lets see what the NHA do about it!)
(I would guess that it is just a "repeat" name problem ,but I would think they have to scratch to sort out!)
> But if you go to today's race - you will see that
> Shamal is shown to have run previously - and if
> you then go to any of those runs, and 'hover' your
> cursor over 'Shamal', you will see the details -
> including the breeding shown as by Medaaly out of
> Mississippi Moon
OK :S so it's even more and more of a mix up!
(Lets see what the NHA do about it!)
(I would guess that it is just a "repeat" name problem ,but I would think they have to scratch to sort out!)
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Re: Re: How many horses called SHAMAL
11 years 4 months ago
the 2009 emperors palace sales catalogue show under the dam "mississipi moon" a colt "Shamal" by Medaaly born '05 unraced.
the 2012 emperors ready to run sale had a "Shamal" by AP Arrow bought by S Moffat.
So it appears Rob is right and this is a "repeat" name problem.
shouldnt have happen though.
the 2012 emperors ready to run sale had a "Shamal" by AP Arrow bought by S Moffat.
So it appears Rob is right and this is a "repeat" name problem.
shouldnt have happen though.
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