Is what Barney Curley has allegedly done...

Easy,if most of us were to be cheated out of a big return by a manipulated result ,it would be little comfort that it was Robin Hood who pulled it off!.........lol

Rob,

But so many many punters latched onto this and won..how can it be a bad thing...

And why is everyone having a go at curley when in the last race at kempton there was an even bigger coup?

rob faux Wrote:

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> Easy,if most of us were to be cheated out of a big
> return by a manipulated result ,it would be little
> comfort that it was Robin Hood who pulled it
> off!.........lol


Hello Rob..... wake up and smell the roses...it happens at least three days a week here

The Madji Wrote:

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> rob faux Wrote:
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> > Easy,if most of us were to be cheated out of a
> big
> > return by a manipulated result ,it would be
> little
> > comfort that it was Robin Hood who pulled it
> > off!.........lol
>
>
> Hello Rob..... wake up and smell the roses...it
> happens at least three days a week here

...............that's why I am pushing so hard for better regulation!

good for the game its always had mystique aura about it..the key as a punter is to know how to find these so called coups and be one step ahead ...(tu)

Last Nights Kempton Blog from S.Holt


No offence to Kempton. They do a great job attracting plenty of runners and keep the show on the road in all weathers on a weekly basis, but there has barely been a buzz around a mid-week Wednesday as there was tonight. As as I got on course it soon transpired that while I had been driving up the A303 listening to rockabilly the first two legs of a potential bookie-bashing multiple coup had gone in.
My ears pricked up even more when people had put two and two together and come up with my life-long punting hero Barney Curley as the mastermind behind the gamble. Of course I have no idea if those assumptions were correct but was already interested. The story went that the people that got on early at big prices in multiples had the firms that laid them in so much trouble the two runners tonight could well go off odds on. That in itself was going to make the night interesting down in the ring, especially as on of them, Indus Valley had been forecast as around the 25/1 mark in the morning papers.
We didn’t have long to wait for that one to run, it was in the first and opened up at even money. One punter called Englander wandered over with the right hump. ‘He’s bloody ruining racing that Barney Curley’ he spat before pointing out that it was unfair for people not in the know because they had no chance. While he was talking there was a flurry of money for the jolly which ensured it went off at odds-on. The irate punter appeared to be about to explode with rage and marched off. At the furlong pole it did look like all the excitement was for nothing, the jolly not appearing to pick up. Then no doubt much to the consternation of those layers that were happy to lay a shade of odds-on a 25/1 shot it found another gear. There were a couple of guys in the stands who were screaming their encouragement as if their lives depended on it. That reached crescendo pitch as Shane Kelly got the punt horse to quicken up enough to win half a length. At a normal meeting they wouldn’t have been noticed, but at Kempton on a winter Wednesday, you tend to stick out if you back and cheer home a winner.

The massed ranks of bookies holding the line before the fifth.
After the race I noticed Englander,the irate punter that spoke to me before racing having a rather red-faced word with a journalist. When he’d finished venting and stormed off I asked if he was complaining about the gamble. It turned out that he had been but it wasn’t just Barney Curley he’d been lambasting but had also accused Ryan Price of starting it all and that he’d started ruining racing before Curley.
The last leg of the Yankee punt wasn’t until the fifth, business in the ring appeared to be quite light. Many of the racegoers more interested in seeing the gamble landed than punting themselves, the irate punter withstanding. The ring did manage to get the next three market leaders beaten though so not all bad for them.
The fifth race and Low Key, the final leg of the multiple loomed and there was some trepidation from certain quarters of the ring. One explained that not only did they have to worry about the stick-on winning but the rest of the fancied runners in the field were overpriced. This made them vulnerable for each-way punters looking for value so they could suffer the double bump. One lively punter was in straight away and asked for an each-way bet with the fractions on Time Square at 7/1. He was halved but the bookie that cut him then called the fractions bet to 14/1 (they forget the basics all that watching the machine). Give the punter his due, he corrected the layer himself and accepted the bet.

Needless to say the main action in the ring was around the favourite who had opened odds-on then trimmed with further support into 4/7. There were plenty of outlandish reports of how much the high street and Internet bookies were going to lose as a result of the ‘Barney Curley’ gamble if it won. As the race got under-way those layers on course who once again thought they’d stick the money in their hods and lay a forecast 6/1 shot that had been off the track for an age at odds on were very soon feeling uncomfortable with that decision.
As Low Key took the race by the scruff of the neck at the furlong pole the gamble looked landed. The two punters that had been so vocal in the first were in the same spot screaming the jolly home again. If they’d been loud then that paled into insignificance now. At the line it was Low Key by an easy length and the bookies blooded. The two guys on the steppings literally bounced down them to run to the back of the stands and cheer the winner into the parade ring.

The hardly aptly-named Low Key.
One bookmaker on the rails was very stoic about the result. ‘You have to admire the gamble really, getting four horses that haven’t been on the track for ages all to win on the same day, that’s some feat’. He also confided that the gambles winning didn’t damage them too much. The biggest admiration was for how the protagonists managed to get on in the first place. There were one or two punters who were grumbling, one lady muttered a half hearted ‘cheat’ as the winner unsaddled but the general consensus seemed to delight that the gamble had been landed.
The mystery of the two guys screaming home the punted horses was solved shortly afterwards. It transpired that they are keen form students. One of the horses in the multiple had been in a notebook for some time. When they spotted it was running they also noticed the others (minus the hurdler) had a connection and took a chance that they had spotted a plot and trixied and trebled up accordingly. I was shown a screenshot of one of their accounts, a cool win £63,000 plus take-out. Happy days for them and no wonder the volume control on their screams of support was set to 11. You have to be chuffed that not just those in the know but those that did their homework copped too.
Things could have been a lot worse for the bookies off course. Callisto Light in the last was another horse that had been of the track for some time, came in for support and won backed from 3/1 into 7/4 on course having been much bigger in the morning. If that one had been part of the multiple too it would have been carnage, it seems it may have been carnage anyway, I look forward to reading the figures when the dust settles.
You have to have admiration for the logistical and training skill of those involved, good luck to them. Who wouldn’t have liked the phone call marking your card from a fellow in a fedora late last night?

Easy. I didn't say Barney was not good man, I am not opening the links but if he does good, well done to him (tu) Not really relevant though imo. But I think it highly unlikely he has a small ego.

Dave... bah humbug is of course the idyllic romantics response (never had you down as one of those lmao ( ) but you showed me a slip once which was a very nice earner, if Barney had farked that slip up, I hardly think your reaction would be a huge chortle and a rhetorical "tough". You might like to think it would have been but nah, nah, nah not a farking hope!!

davetheflower Wrote:

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> Last Nights Kempton Blog from S.Holt
>
>
> No offence to Kempton. They do a great job
> attracting plenty of runners and keep the show on
> the road in all weathers on a weekly basis, but
> there has barely been a buzz around a mid-week
> Wednesday as there was tonight. As as I got on
> course it soon transpired that while I had been
> driving up the A303 listening to rockabilly the
> first two legs of a potential bookie-bashing
> multiple coup had gone in.
> My ears @#$%& up even more when people had put two
> and two together and come up with my life-long
> punting hero Barney Curley as the mastermind
> behind the gamble. Of course I have no idea if
> those assumptions were correct but was already
> interested. The story went that the people that
> got on early at big prices in multiples had the
> firms that laid them in so much trouble the two
> runners tonight could well go off odds on. That in
> itself was going to make the night interesting
> down in the ring, especially as on of them, Indus
> Valley had been forecast as around the 25/1 mark
> in the morning papers.
> We didn’t have long to wait for that one to run,
> it was in the first and opened up at even money.
> One punter called Englander wandered over with the
> right hump. ‘He’s bloody ruining racing that
> Barney Curley’ he spat before pointing out that
> it was unfair for people not in the know because
> they had no chance. While he was talking there was
> a flurry of money for the jolly which ensured it
> went off at odds-on. The irate punter appeared to
> be about to explode with rage and marched off. At
> the furlong pole it did look like all the
> excitement was for nothing, the jolly not
> appearing to pick up. Then no doubt much to the
> consternation of those layers that were happy to
> lay a shade of odds-on a 25/1 shot it found
> another gear. There were a couple of guys in the
> stands who were screaming their encouragement as
> if their lives depended on it. That reached
> crescendo pitch as Shane Kelly got the punt horse
> to quicken up enough to win half a length. At a
> normal meeting they wouldn’t have been noticed,
> but at Kempton on a winter Wednesday, you tend to
> stick out if you back and cheer home a winner.
>
> The massed ranks of bookies holding the line
> before the fifth.
> After the race I noticed Englander,the irate
> punter that spoke to me before racing having a
> rather red-faced word with a journalist. When
> he’d finished venting and stormed off I asked if
> he was complaining about the gamble. It turned out
> that he had been but it wasn’t just Barney
> Curley he’d been lambasting but had also accused
> Ryan Price of starting it all and that he’d
> started ruining racing before Curley.
> The last leg of the Yankee punt wasn’t until the
> fifth, business in the ring appeared to be quite
> light. Many of the racegoers more interested in
> seeing the gamble landed than punting themselves,
> the irate punter withstanding. The ring did manage
> to get the next three market leaders beaten though
> so not all bad for them.
> The fifth race and Low Key, the final leg of the
> multiple loomed and there was some trepidation
> from certain quarters of the ring. One explained
> that not only did they have to worry about the
> stick-on winning but the rest of the fancied
> runners in the field were overpriced. This made
> them vulnerable for each-way punters looking for
> value so they could suffer the double bump. One
> lively punter was in straight away and asked for
> an each-way bet with the fractions on Time Square
> at 7/1. He was halved but the bookie that cut him
> then called the fractions bet to 14/1 (they forget
> the basics all that watching the machine). Give
> the punter his due, he corrected the layer himself
> and accepted the bet.
>
> Needless to say the main action in the ring was
> around the favourite who had opened odds-on then
> trimmed with further support into 4/7. There were
> plenty of outlandish reports of how much the high
> street and Internet bookies were going to lose as
> a result of the ‘Barney Curley’ gamble if it
> won. As the race got under-way those layers on
> course who once again thought they’d stick the
> money in their hods and lay a forecast 6/1 shot
> that had been off the track for an age at odds on
> were very soon feeling uncomfortable with that
> decision.
> As Low Key took the race by the scruff of the neck
> at the furlong pole the gamble looked landed. The
> two punters that had been so vocal in the first
> were in the same spot screaming the jolly home
> again. If they’d been loud then that paled into
> insignificance now. At the line it was Low Key by
> an easy length and the bookies blooded. The two
> guys on the steppings literally bounced down them
> to run to the back of the stands and cheer the
> winner into the parade ring.
>
> The hardly aptly-named Low Key.
> One bookmaker on the rails was very stoic about
> the result. ‘You have to admire the gamble
> really, getting four horses that haven’t been on
> the track for ages all to win on the same day,
> that’s some feat’. He also confided that the
> gambles winning didn’t damage them too much. The
> biggest admiration was for how the protagonists
> managed to get on in the first place. There were
> one or two punters who were grumbling, one lady
> muttered a half hearted ‘cheat’ as the winner
> unsaddled but the general consensus seemed to
> delight that the gamble had been landed.
> The mystery of the two guys screaming home the
> punted horses was solved shortly afterwards. It
> transpired that they are keen form students. One
> of the horses in the multiple had been in a
> notebook for some time. When they spotted it was
> running they also noticed the others (minus the
> hurdler) had a connection and took a chance that
> they had spotted a plot and trixied and trebled up
> accordingly. I was shown a screenshot of one of
> their accounts, a cool win £63,000 plus take-out.
> Happy days for them and no wonder the volume
> control on their screams of support was set to 11.
> You have to be chuffed that not just those in the
> know but those that did their homework copped
> too.
> Things could have been a lot worse for the bookies
> off course. Callisto Light in the last was
> another horse that had been of the track for some
> time, came in for support and won backed from 3/1
> into 7/4 on course having been much bigger in the
> morning. If that one had been part of the multiple
> too it would have been carnage, it seems it may
> have been carnage anyway, I look forward to
> reading the figures when the dust settles.
> You have to have admiration for the logistical and
> training skill of those involved, good luck to
> them. Who wouldn’t have liked the phone call
> marking your card from a fellow in a fedora late
> last night?

Read Curleys book,it's worth it

I couldn't even read all that blog, especially on noticing my name lol so the book has no chance!

Englander Wrote:

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> I couldn't even read all that blog, especially on
> noticing my name lol so the book has no chance!


Hehe,thought you'd like that

Ex-Butler horse cut as another coup looms
By James Burn 12:29pM 23 JAN 2014

A DAY after an audacious four-horse gamble which left bookmakers estimating losses in excess of £2 million, another betting coup could be on the cards with Pipers Piping heavily backed for a race at Kempton.

Formerly trained by John Butler, who was responsible for the fourth gambled-on horse to win on Wednesday, Pipers Piping was cut to 11-4 (from 20) by BetVictor and 2-1 (from 14) with Ladbrokes.

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Having his first start for Mandy Rowland, the eight-year-old is a top-priced 15-8 to win Kempton's Class 7 7f handicap at 5.00.

Butler, who failed to register a success with Pipers Piping, has tried to play down his role in the major gamble on Wednesday. He is a former assistant to legendary punter Barney Curley, who had links to the four horses involved.

The Des Donovan-trained Eye Of The Tiger got the ball rolling at Lingfield, while Seven Summits scored at Catterick. Donovan's Indus Valley then won at Kempton and was followed into the winner's enclosure by Low Key.

The quartet were available at combined odds of 14,783-1 on Tuesday night, although they returned at much shorter starting prices once the industry was aware of the sensational gamble, reminiscent of the £4m coup Curley famously engineered in 2010.

"From 11am onwards my phone was beep beep," Butler said on Thursday morning.

"At that stage I was on my way to Kempton and I didn't get to see any of the races bar the first at Kempton [Indus Valley] - the horses that won at Lingfield and Catterick, I was on the M25."

Low Key, wearing a visor for the first time, was having his first start for nearly a year and had not won since August 2010.

"He won nicely I must admit and I thought Liam Keniry gave him a lovely ride," added Butler, who was speaking to At The Races.

"We were happy and I think the visor made a difference."

Curley, who could not be contacted on Wednesday, has been one of racing's most colourful characters, but relinquished his trainers' licence last year to concentrate on charity work in Africa.

"I worked for Barney for three or four years when I came over from Ireland from Aidan O'Brien's," said Butler.

"He's been very good to me. We parted company two or three years ago when I moved out of his yard to set up on my own. I see him in town, as everyone does in Newmarket - it's a small community.

"I suppose he's semi-retired and he spends a lot of time in Africa. I couldn't say where he is this morning."

Observers on social networking sites highlighted the same lad leading up Indus Valley and Low Key, but Butler described that as a coincidence.

He explained: "I travelled to the races by myself and he asked if I wanted the horse led up. I said that's fine, but did it myself as I know the horse so well and he just brought him back into the winner's enclosure."

So, Pipers Piping flops, but the stable companion wins, pays R26.8 on the tote... Reminds me of the magician on that old TV program: 'kul jou hier, kul jou daar...'